I am glad that Blizzard is officially recognizing such a popular fan map and is putting much work and effort into there own version which will be incredible. I have been getting more into DOTA in war 3 recently and will not be buying Valve's DOTA 2 when I will be getting a free DOTA game from Blizzard, since I already bought Starcraft 2.

Plutonium

United States2217 Posts

October 23 2010 09:15 GMT

#24

There's got to be some major legal hurdles going on here between Blizzard and Valve.

Riot Games and S2 games as well, considering how much of a bastard I hear Icefrog is.

.Aar

2177 Posts

October 23 2010 09:20 GMT

#25

The guy sounds like he's about to cry..

And I just don't like how they straight out refer to it "Blizzard DotA." They're really screwing with IceFrog here.

I do like the hero pool, though. I'll try this out for sure, but it won't stop me from buying DotA 2.

heishe

Germany2284 Posts

October 23 2010 09:25 GMT

#26

On October 23 2010 18:15 Plutonium wrote:
There's got to be some major legal hurdles going on here between Blizzard and Valve.

Riot Games and S2 games as well, considering how much of a bastard I hear Icefrog is.

I don't think so. Dota was created for Warcraft 3, and when you install that came you have to click this little checkbox to confirm a lot of text, and in this text I think it says that Blizzard has the right to use everything you create however they wish (I don't think the WC3 ToS said that they own everything you create, I think that was introduced by SC2). As far as I know Valve's game is only called "DOTA 2" and not "Defense of the Ancients 2", and for good reason I assume.

Plus, while Valve and Blizzard are both big companies, in an epic clash of lawyers I see Blizzard winning. They seem to have a lot more experience with that kind of stuff

bakedace

United States672 Posts

October 23 2010 10:06 GMT

#27

On October 23 2010 15:42 crazeman wrote:
The current custom map system is going to suck for blizzard dota. Basically, under the current system, every game you join will have at least 1 or 2 complete newbs who never played the game before. This will prevent any serious or semi-serious games from happening.

Chat channel will help this a little but people are probably going to end up using a bot to set up games again (ala DotA in WC3, bots would whisper you a custom game name to join). I really hope that blizzard will develop a better way to join custom games. Maybe if it gets popular enough they can develop some sort of rankings for the blizzard dota so people can matchup according to skill.. (one can wish right?)

last year they announced a ladder just for dota. haven't heard anything since though...

ZapRoffo

United States5544 Posts

October 23 2010 10:14 GMT

#28

All the DotA games, from someone who doesn't play it, it's so weird how split up it is. There's TFT DotA, HoN, LoL, DOTA2, Blizzard DotA now...

Incognitodies

United Kingdom184 Posts

October 23 2010 10:30 GMT

#29

On October 23 2010 18:09 undyinglight wrote:
I am glad that Blizzard is officially recognizing such a popular fan map and is putting much work and effort into there own version which will be incredible. I have been getting more into DOTA in war 3 recently and will not be buying Valve's DOTA 2 when I will be getting a free DOTA game from Blizzard, since I already bought Starcraft 2.

'Recognizing' it by riping it off? I doubt it's going to be that good in the long run anyway, as Blizzard won't put any effort into balancing it compared to it's rivals.

HungryBear

United States37 Posts

October 23 2010 11:09 GMT

#30

I really don't think Blizzard will put the time and effort to properly develop and balance Dota, which is a real shame, since I know so many people who bought or played frozen throne just for Dota. It doesn't really seem like they've focused on the core concepts of the game, or done anything to improve the game that Lol and Hon have added.

It just seems like a waste of resources since other LoL and HoN so far have added new features such as an independent ladder, stat tracking, reconnecting to games after drops, and we all know Valve's Dota 2 is going to be insanely fantastic. In comparison, I am not impressed with Blizzard's take at all.

CROrens

Croatia1005 Posts

October 23 2010 11:19 GMT

#31

this will fail, dota 2 will prevail. easy as that. why? competitive games

Shana

Indonesia1814 Posts

October 23 2010 11:28 GMT

#32

Why not making a properly balanced ladder maps first? I doubt it will be successful anyway.

Highways

Australia6105 Posts

October 23 2010 12:14 GMT

#33

Is there gameplay video anywhere?

Caphe

Vietnam10817 Posts

October 23 2010 12:17 GMT

#34

On October 23 2010 20:28 Shana wrote:
Why not making a properly balanced ladder maps first? I doubt it will be successful anyway.

it will be very successful i am quite sure of it at least on NA.

Bosu

United States3247 Posts

October 23 2010 12:22 GMT

#35

I wonder if blizzard will eventually charge for new heroes in this. I am sure that is valves plan.

NeonFlare

Finland1307 Posts

October 23 2010 12:40 GMT

#36

Seems like pre-emptive to shut down most similar maps from becoming more popular and filling the customgame list along with potentially netting money from premium version. I doubt anyone who doesn't already own SC2 will get it just for this.

Seems like the playerbase shifts have pretty much stabilized between DotA allstars, LoL and HoN, at most it will be minor shift towards SC2 DotA and eventually when Valve's DotA 2 finishes there might be bigger shifts in player amounts (most likely the biggest being HoN -> DotA 2 if they haven't dumbed down the game as much as LoL did).

Anyway, might as well try it once it's avaiable to see how Blizzard would manage such game.

CruelZeratul

Germany4588 Posts

October 23 2010 12:46 GMT

#37

Anyone got som vids form Blizzcon?

nalgene

Canada2153 Posts

October 23 2010 12:56 GMT

#38

SC2 DotA doesn't even use the same interface though ( atleast from what some screens show )
and if they use SC2's interface, you lose the ability to cast via wireframes
-Can't ping on screen, need to click minimap to ping? ( would be pretty crucial... )
-Blocking/moving in front of your own creeps will be useless ( since they just push your hero away and you can't slow down the creep wave by doing it due to it being SC2 )

They were showing something with a rainbow and changing colors...
http://img824.imageshack.us/f/wdrspells.png/

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The hero image is on the left instead of the right in this picture and lets buff spells get casted on self easier

They're probably going to put something so you can't share control or use a leaver hero?

The hero picking part of the game doesn't tell you exact stats but some bars, making it more obscure... http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/sc2mapster/large/20.jpg