• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:23
CET 11:23
KST 19:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
R I P Patrick Stewart Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10150 users

Blizzard DotA - Page 11

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 All
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 22 2011 16:35 GMT
#201
Actually making it simpler makes a lot of sense IMO. It's more fun for casual ums gamers to have a simpler version like that and the dota community badly needs a noob friendly way to get people into the game.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 22 2011 16:37 GMT
#202
On August 23 2011 01:35 strongandbig wrote:
Actually making it simpler makes a lot of sense IMO. It's more fun for casual ums gamers to have a simpler version like that and the dota community badly needs a noob friendly way to get people into the game.

League of Legends?
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 22 2011 16:39 GMT
#203
On August 23 2011 01:35 strongandbig wrote:
Actually making it simpler makes a lot of sense IMO. It's more fun for casual ums gamers to have a simpler version like that and the dota community badly needs a noob friendly way to get people into the game.


Not to mention it means it is easier to balance. If there were 500 heroes with 5 abilities and 1000 items it'd be difficult to balance, and most heroes/items wouldn't even be used after a month. Instead of a group of lets say 12 heroes, who can constantly be adjusted to maintain balance, you'd have 500, where balance doesn't even matter, and 1 hero could be significantly better than 50.
if (post == "stupid") { document.getElementById('post').style.display = 'none'; }
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
August 22 2011 16:49 GMT
#204
On August 23 2011 01:39 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 01:35 strongandbig wrote:
Actually making it simpler makes a lot of sense IMO. It's more fun for casual ums gamers to have a simpler version like that and the dota community badly needs a noob friendly way to get people into the game.


Not to mention it means it is easier to balance. If there were 500 heroes with 5 abilities and 1000 items it'd be difficult to balance, and most heroes/items wouldn't even be used after a month. Instead of a group of lets say 12 heroes, who can constantly be adjusted to maintain balance, you'd have 500, where balance doesn't even matter, and 1 hero could be significantly better than 50.


they tried that already.
it's called Demigod.
it got boring extremely fast with it's... eight? heroes?
more heroes are always better. it's not that hard making a hero balanced. whats hard is coming up with new ideas.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 22 2011 16:51 GMT
#205
This train has already left Blizz headquarters.

They should try to cater casuals because they ain't gonna compete with Valve in Dota2 with icefrog in terms of e-sports value.

And there is LoL and HoN out there.

Just hope that we get to see something at Blizzcon.
IveReturned
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Turkey258 Posts
August 22 2011 22:04 GMT
#206
What if they blatanly Copy the wc3 dota but make it better with good ui and superior graphics and add a tutorial or even a coaching system ? What if they added a lan option and new heroes. ? Wait a minute that is Dota 2.

Blizzard can do Dota 2 better than valve does if they start working hard on it. Valve shouldnt waste its time while many ppl are still walting for hl2 ep3.
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 22:21:11
August 22 2011 22:17 GMT
#207
some suggestions for making dota genre better:

less farming.

more fighting.

then im sold. i hate farming when it comes to hon/dota. why am i farming for 40 minutes and 20 minute actual combat?

some suggestions: remove level. remove exp by creep. remove items.

add 10+ more skills to each character.

rework tower defense.

this way, u only need 8-15 chars, more casual, no fricken FARMING, killing incentitives = better timing, and knocking the other player all the way back (u see this already when knocking out towers after wiping the the other team out). games arent 1hr+. capture the flag. i can dream cant I
Watch my gaming channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BedinSpace
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#208
Since when does a custom map take a year to finish? Has any other information been released? Seems like fail to me.
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 22:24:04
August 22 2011 22:19 GMT
#209
On August 23 2011 07:04 IveReturned wrote:
What if they blatanly Copy the wc3 dota but make it better with good ui and superior graphics and add a tutorial or even a coaching system ? What if they added a lan option and new heroes. ? Wait a minute that is Dota 2.

Blizzard can do Dota 2 better than valve does if they start working hard on it. Valve shouldnt waste its time while many ppl are still walting for hl2 ep3.


From what i have seen from Dota2 Valve did everything but not "wasting its time".

Edit: I think Blizzard Dota is basically gonna be the way for Sc2 players to find into MOBA games but i cant see them having the potential playerbase to be big if there is HoN/LoL/Dota2 around.
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
IveReturned
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Turkey258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 22:29:44
August 22 2011 22:26 GMT
#210
On August 23 2011 07:19 Scio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 07:04 IveReturned wrote:
What if they blatanly Copy the wc3 dota but make it better with good ui and superior graphics and add a tutorial or even a coaching system ? What if they added a lan option and new heroes. ? Wait a minute that is Dota 2.

Blizzard can do Dota 2 better than valve does if they start working hard on it. Valve shouldnt waste its time while many ppl are still walting for hl2 ep3.


From what i have seen from Dota2 Valve did everything but not "wasting its time".

Edit: I think Blizzard Dota is basically gonna be the way for Sc2 players to find into MOBA games.


Ep3 is definitely more important than Dota 2 IMO

Edit: youre right about your second statement but Dota Will definitely help selling hots
"why not buy Dota wlth some other maps ?"
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
January 26 2012 18:17 GMT
#211
Hm any news regarding this?
Prev 1 9 10 11 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 12969
firebathero 2250
Bisu 1896
Horang2 1557
Jaedong 553
BeSt 478
actioN 446
Light 231
Soma 204
sorry 185
[ Show more ]
Mini 153
Mind 114
Dewaltoss 104
Mong 84
Hyun 81
ZerO 73
HiyA 56
Hyuk 40
Zeus 39
Sharp 38
ggaemo 37
Barracks 29
sSak 26
NaDa 25
ToSsGirL 24
Free 23
EffOrt 23
Shinee 19
soO 15
Shine 12
Rush 9
Noble 7
910 6
ajuk12(nOOB) 3
Dota 2
Gorgc5132
Fuzer 120
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1260
Other Games
dupreeh280
crisheroes204
ArmadaUGS130
ZerO(Twitch)11
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2397
League of Legends
• Stunt506
Upcoming Events
GSL
1h 37m
Epic.LAN
2h 37m
Big Brain Bouts
6h 37m
OSC
11h 37m
Replay Cast
12h 37m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 37m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 1h
Epic.LAN
1d 2h
IPSL
1d 5h
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
1d 7h
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Yamato Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
3 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.