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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
September 28 2018 17:49 GMT
#13181
Aside from the drafting, this game seems to offer a cheaper way to play standard going forward given the wildcard system. I think you can probably build a tier 1 deck for under $100. Aside from all the dual lands, what are some of the staples worth getting? (I played mostly midrange/control decks back in the day).
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
September 28 2018 18:09 GMT
#13182
On September 29 2018 02:49 Glacierz wrote:
Aside from the drafting, this game seems to offer a cheaper way to play standard going forward given the wildcard system. I think you can probably build a tier 1 deck for under $100. Aside from all the dual lands, what are some of the staples worth getting? (I played mostly midrange/control decks back in the day).

i played the closed beta from april until last week. i didnt spend a single dime and managed to get 5 tier 1 decks. 5 tier 2 and some brew decks....
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
September 28 2018 21:34 GMT
#13183
I'm assuming you need to maintain a certain winrate in draft? Don't you run out of gems after a while?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
September 28 2018 21:45 GMT
#13184
In free ladder constructed games you earn gold from daily quests to enter some limited events and keep the cards. You don’t need to go infinite in limited... not sure offhand if you even can.
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Herpin_Along
Profile Joined May 2017
15 Posts
September 29 2018 01:28 GMT
#13185
On September 28 2018 14:18 Zambrah wrote:
Guilds of Ravnica Sealed feels super unbalanced. Dimir just seems way too good. Boros is a close second, but a good deck centered on either of those archetypes just feels too much like the best.


If you're talking about prerelease, remember that the seeded packs change things a lot. The set is definitely not designed with that extra pack in mind....
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 29 2018 19:26 GMT
#13186
Since there has been so much going at work for me, I'm going into Guilds of Ravnica almost completely without having watched any spoilers. So it'll be interesting for sure.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 29 2018 20:14 GMT
#13187
On September 29 2018 06:45 micronesia wrote:
In free ladder constructed games you earn gold from daily quests to enter some limited events and keep the cards. You don’t need to go infinite in limited... not sure offhand if you even can.


Yes you can. It's hard to do it consistently though unless you're really good (think you need to maintain a 60-70% win ratio to go infinite).
When I think of something else, something will go here
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-29 21:53:13
September 29 2018 21:52 GMT
#13188
Really liking mtg arena so far.

I will try to play basically f2p, but I went ahead and got the welcome bundle for 5 bucks.

What should I spend the 2500 gems on. 3 drafts or sealed?

I don't really have a specific deck in mind yet, just wanna extend my collection.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 30 2018 01:46 GMT
#13189
Sealed is best value. You are guaranteed 6 15 card packs and 3 8 card packs. If you can get 6 wins you can do it again. Got lucky today and was able to play 3 times after going 6-3 twice in a row.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Wohodix
Profile Joined September 2011
France34 Posts
September 30 2018 16:14 GMT
#13190
If anyone has prerelease code to spare ?
Fprime
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada64 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-30 17:03:06
September 30 2018 17:02 GMT
#13191
On October 01 2018 01:14 Wohodix wrote:
If anyone has prerelease code to spare ?


PlayRavnica = 3 free boosters
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 01 2018 17:41 GMT
#13192
On September 30 2018 10:46 blade55555 wrote:
Sealed is best value. You are guaranteed 6 15 card packs and 3 8 card packs. If you can get 6 wins you can do it again. Got lucky today and was able to play 3 times after going 6-3 twice in a row.

Yeah I don't think I will get 6 wins now.

I wanna do it, but I'll wait a bit longer.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-01 18:35:18
October 01 2018 18:34 GMT
#13193
It looks like events cost gems to enter, but you can only earn gold reliably via quests? Does this mean I'm forced to paying for sealed/drafts once I use up all the gems? Kinda confused about the economy...
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 01 2018 21:02 GMT
#13194
You can earn gold with quests and 15 wins/day
Some events cost gold to enter, some gems.
Some reward with gold, other with gems.

Depend on what you're looking to play.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 00:12:32
October 01 2018 22:21 GMT
#13195
You can play Draft with 5000 gold and earn up to 950 gems in a draft.

So if you are really good at draft you can farm your gems there and then play sealed or whatever you want with the gems your earned.

Sadly I only managed 2 wins in draft so far, I am just bad at it I guess, but I feel I also got a bit unlucky

Edit: Ok, actually got lucky and managed 6 wins just now.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-02 17:15:36
October 02 2018 17:15 GMT
#13196
I'm not very good with drafts. Aside from prioritizing on card advantage and removal, I don't really know much more in terms of value/synergy. I think sealed might be mathematically better value and I seem to get consistent 4+ wins in that format.

What's a good place to look up/study the current meta decks? I'm already starting to run into a lot of net decks and it's getting hard to win games.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-03 00:32:37
October 03 2018 00:29 GMT
#13197
On October 03 2018 02:15 Glacierz wrote:
I'm not very good with drafts. Aside from prioritizing on card advantage and removal, I don't really know much more in terms of value/synergy. I think sealed might be mathematically better value and I seem to get consistent 4+ wins in that format.

What's a good place to look up/study the current meta decks? I'm already starting to run into a lot of net decks and it's getting hard to win games.


https://www.mtggoldfish.com

https://aetherhub.com/

Both seem good. Meta seems to be White/Red aggro dominated.

I can't build any of those decks, so I just build my own with whatever I have. Quick play is just for quests and fun for me, I want to get good in limited instead. Somehow managed to build a black/white life gain deck that went 4-0 in quick play so far.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-03 01:55:51
October 03 2018 01:55 GMT
#13198
When you look at these meta distributions be very careful. Decks can only appear in a mtgo 5-0 data dump if they are at least 20 cards different than all other 5-0 decks already being posted.

This means that the decks that aren't figured out yet or have more options for main deck choices can appear more frequently than decks that are figured out.

Decks like Mono Blue tempo and Mono red aggro are pretty hard to come up with 20 different cards, so they dont appear as often as the W/R decks but I assure you they are performing well. Mono Red is being played by the mtgo trophy leader as of last night for instance.

for example the distribution at 5-0 can be (im exaggerating for effect here)

50 mono red
30 UW control
15 Selesneya Tokens
1 Boros Angels
1 Boros Tokens
1 Boros Knights
1 Boros Aggro

but you see, 4 boros decks, 1 UW, 1 Selsneya Midrange, 1 Selesneya Toklens and 1 Mono red on goldfish

When i grinded MTGO in 2010-2012 we used to get every deck that went 3-1 or better and metagame was way easier to assess .

Anyways, some helpful info if you guys don't know. If you do than w/e .
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
October 03 2018 11:35 GMT
#13199
On September 29 2018 06:34 Glacierz wrote:
I'm assuming you need to maintain a certain winrate in draft? Don't you run out of gems after a while?

if you just play purely with gems you need a winrate over 70 % to go infinite which is in Best-of-One formats almost impossible. you either need a good chunk of luck or one bad opponent after the other. good thing is most people on arena are horrible players compared to people you face in MTGO which means if you play well you can surely play a while without buying new gems. or you don't...thats just how BO1 in magic works, its shit. sometimes you lose purely because your opponent was on the play. sometimes you lose because you drew a few lands too many even though you play the correct amount for your deck. the only solution is playing competitive draft which is BO3. downside is the the value you get ouut of it compared to BO1 draft is shit and its supper expensive to get into it in the first place. wizards fucked that up good and i hope they will change it in the future.
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 03 2018 14:10 GMT
#13200
On October 02 2018 03:34 Glacierz wrote:
It looks like events cost gems to enter, but you can only earn gold reliably via quests? Does this mean I'm forced to paying for sealed/drafts once I use up all the gems? Kinda confused about the economy...


Only some. I believe Competitive draft and sealed are the only events that require Gems. All of the others you should be able to pay gold on.
When I think of something else, something will go here
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