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turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
January 25 2011 17:35 GMT
#281
The problem is that the market does not cater to the "experienced mmo gamer" anymore. It caters to the larger player base. From a business stand point, why would you make a game that appeals to 3% of the ( for examples sake ) WoW population, when you can make a game that appeals to 97% of it. You're more likely to get more profit from the later.

A lot of companies aren't really willing to break the mold right now, given that there's been such a stranglehold on the market by the new Wrath of the Lich King style of developing MMO's. Going too far out side of the box will almost certainly ensure that the company does see a profit on the game.

I'm personally a fan of older MMO's, but since they aren't really in the works right now, you work with what is available. Each new MMO will begin taking baby steps away from the current model, and in however long it takes, we will have the next fotm MMO.

I think if you're looking for someone to come out with the next EverQuest, you're going to be severely disappointed and waiting a long time.
kataa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom384 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 17:36:51
January 25 2011 17:36 GMT
#282
On January 25 2011 12:06 ibreakurface wrote:
@those calling it a WoW clone, all mmorpgs are clones of eachother. WoW was not the first MMORPG.


It was the first theme park MMO of a style now very popular. There is little connection between the genuine first successful MMO, Ultima Online or even Asherons Call or the original Everquest. WoW introduced to the genre alot of new things aimed at casual gamers.

Ever tried a corpse run in EQ? Or gotten dry looted in Ultima Online? WoW created a much softer, newb friendly style of MMO. Based more around questing, scripted raiding end game, and a lack of serious penalties for failure.

We call MMOs which attempt to emulate WoWs success by sticking to these elements 'WoW clones'.

Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 25 2011 17:37 GMT
#283
I'm not getting the similarities that WoW and Rift have. I played WoW for 3years and although I do see some common similarities like the UI for example but those are common things that are in almost any successful mmo. Maybe I havent looked into it enough to find how it's so similar that people are willing to call it a "clone"
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
January 25 2011 17:38 GMT
#284
On January 26 2011 02:27 anatem wrote:
had to add this

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 12:06 ibreakurface wrote:
@those calling it a WoW clone, all mmorpgs are clones of eachother. WoW was not the first MMORPG.


not really. this is indeed a wow clone, more than any other recent fantasy mmo. and the problem is there's been plenty of those recently, and all of them disappointed to a degree or another when it counted

ofcourse, this doesn't mean it should be dismissed, that it's not a good game. it just means that more experienced mmo gamers (looking for some diversity) aren't gonna find it all that appealing regardless of some original mechanics it brings

compare anarchy online - wow - eve; you can choose different paths for mmo development, even if there are some core mechanics that the mmo genre demands inherently


Where did you get the idea that more experienced mmo gamers look for diversity? Seems like a pretty asinine assumption that had no credible basis to it. Why do people still play EQ? UO? Were they looking for diversity? No. They play it because of it's solid mechanics, not because it's something game breaking that revolutionizes what an mmo is supposed to be.

So to say people won't play Rift because it's not diverse is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
January 25 2011 17:49 GMT
#285
On January 26 2011 02:37 Obstikal wrote:
I'm not getting the similarities that WoW and Rift have. I played WoW for 3years and although I do see some common similarities like the UI for example but those are common things that are in almost any successful mmo. Maybe I havent looked into it enough to find how it's so similar that people are willing to call it a "clone"


Have you played it yet? The similarities are quite abundant. Combat mechanics, UI is a spot on copy for the most part. Questing style is the similar, not that I think that it will ever change after the WoW quest system was implemented.
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
January 25 2011 17:49 GMT
#286
On January 26 2011 02:37 Obstikal wrote:
I'm not getting the similarities that WoW and Rift have. I played WoW for 3years and although I do see some common similarities like the UI for example but those are common things that are in almost any successful mmo. Maybe I havent looked into it enough to find how it's so similar that people are willing to call it a "clone"

Warfronts are basically disguised copies of battlegrounds, honor/valor points rewarded from PvP/PvE just like WoW, crafting is pretty much identical, just click create all and wait without any real depth, instances are 5 and 20man, with both normal and heroic modes.
That's a lot of similarities.

That said, it doesn't really feel like a WoW clone while playing it, it feels sort of like EQ2 with WoW features and some new unique stuff, it feels like a new game.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 25 2011 17:54 GMT
#287
I was just looking at Assassin and got a glimpse of how combat would be and did see a huge similarity with the Rogue in WoW which was my main.

Yeah, I haven't played it but from reading about it It doesnt really seem like a WoW Clone that is. With the Rifts and having such a complex class system.

Well its about time to play isnt it? 5 til 1?
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
January 25 2011 18:10 GMT
#288
Anyone else that has beta inviation that is actually being able to logon atm?
The beta shouldve started again 10 mins ago but I still can't get on
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
anilusion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden247 Posts
January 25 2011 18:12 GMT
#289
Says unable to connect to server. Guess its overloaded.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#290
On January 26 2011 03:10 Roflhaxx wrote:
Anyone else that has beta inviation that is actually being able to logon atm?
The beta shouldve started again 10 mins ago but I still can't get on

This is the biggest BETA yet because alot of people can access this one due to the VIP keys being handed out so fast, the servers are full and they havent opened all of their servers yet....

ive been trying for 10min already just stuck at 49% or 89%.
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Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
January 25 2011 18:16 GMT
#291
On January 26 2011 03:13 Mawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 03:10 Roflhaxx wrote:
Anyone else that has beta inviation that is actually being able to logon atm?
The beta shouldve started again 10 mins ago but I still can't get on

This is the biggest BETA yet because alot of people can access this one due to the VIP keys being handed out so fast, the servers are full and they havent opened all of their servers yet....

ive been trying for 10min already just stuck at 49% or 89%.

Same with me, guess I'll have to keep trying then =/
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
anilusion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden247 Posts
January 25 2011 18:26 GMT
#292
Have anybody actually managed to log on yet?
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
January 25 2011 18:29 GMT
#293
Cant seem to get in whatsoever..
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
Raktavijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland48 Posts
January 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#294
Neither can I... There's probably a ton of people trying to get on.. but we'll see.
"So, you still watching anime or are you strictly into Dick now?"
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
January 25 2011 18:33 GMT
#295
worst part is that I was on around 09:40 PST, saw the servers weren't up yet so I just changed my resolution then quit the game.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
January 25 2011 18:34 GMT
#296
If nobody is getting in, I guess the servers are simply not up yet.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Raktavijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland48 Posts
January 25 2011 18:39 GMT
#297
I agree that the servers probably aren't up yet, I'm sure they'll get around to that soon enough.
"So, you still watching anime or are you strictly into Dick now?"
anilusion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden247 Posts
January 25 2011 18:49 GMT
#298
No, the servers are up. People on the official forums have managed to get online, but servers keep crashing.
anilusion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden247 Posts
January 25 2011 19:00 GMT
#299
http://www.riftstatus.com/index.php

Seems like US is up, EU is down.
CoFran
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada342 Posts
January 25 2011 19:08 GMT
#300
After applying a key, where can I download the client?
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