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The problem is that the market does not cater to the "experienced mmo gamer" anymore. It caters to the larger player base. From a business stand point, why would you make a game that appeals to 3% of the ( for examples sake ) WoW population, when you can make a game that appeals to 97% of it. You're more likely to get more profit from the later.
A lot of companies aren't really willing to break the mold right now, given that there's been such a stranglehold on the market by the new Wrath of the Lich King style of developing MMO's. Going too far out side of the box will almost certainly ensure that the company does see a profit on the game.
I'm personally a fan of older MMO's, but since they aren't really in the works right now, you work with what is available. Each new MMO will begin taking baby steps away from the current model, and in however long it takes, we will have the next fotm MMO.
I think if you're looking for someone to come out with the next EverQuest, you're going to be severely disappointed and waiting a long time.
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On January 25 2011 12:06 ibreakurface wrote:
@those calling it a WoW clone, all mmorpgs are clones of eachother. WoW was not the first MMORPG.
It was the first theme park MMO of a style now very popular. There is little connection between the genuine first successful MMO, Ultima Online or even Asherons Call or the original Everquest. WoW introduced to the genre alot of new things aimed at casual gamers.
Ever tried a corpse run in EQ? Or gotten dry looted in Ultima Online? WoW created a much softer, newb friendly style of MMO. Based more around questing, scripted raiding end game, and a lack of serious penalties for failure.
We call MMOs which attempt to emulate WoWs success by sticking to these elements 'WoW clones'.
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I'm not getting the similarities that WoW and Rift have. I played WoW for 3years and although I do see some common similarities like the UI for example but those are common things that are in almost any successful mmo. Maybe I havent looked into it enough to find how it's so similar that people are willing to call it a "clone"
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On January 26 2011 02:27 anatem wrote:had to add this Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 12:06 ibreakurface wrote:
@those calling it a WoW clone, all mmorpgs are clones of eachother. WoW was not the first MMORPG. not really. this is indeed a wow clone, more than any other recent fantasy mmo. and the problem is there's been plenty of those recently, and all of them disappointed to a degree or another when it counted ofcourse, this doesn't mean it should be dismissed, that it's not a good game. it just means that more experienced mmo gamers (looking for some diversity) aren't gonna find it all that appealing regardless of some original mechanics it brings compare anarchy online - wow - eve; you can choose different paths for mmo development, even if there are some core mechanics that the mmo genre demands inherently
Where did you get the idea that more experienced mmo gamers look for diversity? Seems like a pretty asinine assumption that had no credible basis to it. Why do people still play EQ? UO? Were they looking for diversity? No. They play it because of it's solid mechanics, not because it's something game breaking that revolutionizes what an mmo is supposed to be.
So to say people won't play Rift because it's not diverse is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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On January 26 2011 02:37 Obstikal wrote:
I'm not getting the similarities that WoW and Rift have. I played WoW for 3years and although I do see some common similarities like the UI for example but those are common things that are in almost any successful mmo. Maybe I havent looked into it enough to find how it's so similar that people are willing to call it a "clone"
Have you played it yet? The similarities are quite abundant. Combat mechanics, UI is a spot on copy for the most part. Questing style is the similar, not that I think that it will ever change after the WoW quest system was implemented.
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On January 26 2011 02:37 Obstikal wrote:
I'm not getting the similarities that WoW and Rift have. I played WoW for 3years and although I do see some common similarities like the UI for example but those are common things that are in almost any successful mmo. Maybe I havent looked into it enough to find how it's so similar that people are willing to call it a "clone"
Warfronts are basically disguised copies of battlegrounds, honor/valor points rewarded from PvP/PvE just like WoW, crafting is pretty much identical, just click create all and wait without any real depth, instances are 5 and 20man, with both normal and heroic modes.
That's a lot of similarities.
That said, it doesn't really feel like a WoW clone while playing it, it feels sort of like EQ2 with WoW features and some new unique stuff, it feels like a new game.
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I was just looking at Assassin and got a glimpse of how combat would be and did see a huge similarity with the Rogue in WoW which was my main.
Yeah, I haven't played it but from reading about it It doesnt really seem like a WoW Clone that is. With the Rifts and having such a complex class system.
Well its about time to play isnt it? 5 til 1?
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Anyone else that has beta inviation that is actually being able to logon atm?
The beta shouldve started again 10 mins ago but I still can't get on
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Says unable to connect to server. Guess its overloaded.
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On January 26 2011 03:10 Roflhaxx wrote:
Anyone else that has beta inviation that is actually being able to logon atm?
The beta shouldve started again 10 mins ago but I still can't get on
This is the biggest BETA yet because alot of people can access this one due to the VIP keys being handed out so fast, the servers are full and they havent opened all of their servers yet....
ive been trying for 10min already just stuck at 49% or 89%.
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On January 26 2011 03:13 Mawi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2011 03:10 Roflhaxx wrote:
Anyone else that has beta inviation that is actually being able to logon atm?
The beta shouldve started again 10 mins ago but I still can't get on This is the biggest BETA yet because alot of people can access this one due to the VIP keys being handed out so fast, the servers are full and they havent opened all of their servers yet.... ive been trying for 10min already just stuck at 49% or 89%.
Same with me, guess I'll have to keep trying then =/
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Have anybody actually managed to log on yet?
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Cant seem to get in whatsoever..
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Neither can I... There's probably a ton of people trying to get on.. but we'll see.
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worst part is that I was on around 09:40 PST, saw the servers weren't up yet so I just changed my resolution then quit the game.
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If nobody is getting in, I guess the servers are simply not up yet.
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I agree that the servers probably aren't up yet, I'm sure they'll get around to that soon enough.
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No, the servers are up. People on the official forums have managed to get online, but servers keep crashing.
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After applying a key, where can I download the client?
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