Rift: Planes of Telara

On December 02 2010 18:55 PackofHighly wrote:
the curse beta keys are regular. you probably won't be invited to every beta session.

Neoseeker is giving away VIP keys right now. no contest, just post in the thread get a PM with a key: http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/2/t1599020-trions-rift-beta-event/

On December 02 2010 21:20 Kyuki wrote:
Looks pretty interesting, think I need to check this out.

How long did it take for you to get a key deth?

On December 05 2010 19:42 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I spent a few hours tonight playing the beta of this and it is absolutely awesome.
http://www.riftgame.com/en/

If I didn't have shit to do today I'd probably play it all day lol

The graphics are absolutely beautiful, the gameplay is very smooth, the leveling/speccing system is pretty awesome and kinda unique but it feels rather impractical. They essentially give you 2 (and later 3) "classes" in one but only enough spec points for 1. Early on it's definitely silly, I assumed they'd give you double the points or at least 1.5 per level etc.

It's a pretty standard MMO but it takes a lot of shit from the diff MMOs that makes it pretty cool. They took all the things that work and improved on them or put their own neat little twist on it. Public quests/events like from WAR that get increasingly harder and more fun with levels, pretty standard questing (can't do much to improve Go X kill Y), controls are extremely customizable, the UI is extremely customizable even in beta, won't need many/any mods for this i'm thinking

I haven't gotten to try PVP yet but if I get home in time before the beta shuts down i'm gonna try to get a max'd char on the PVP realm as well.

Out of all the beta's i've been in this one is absolutely the most polished and most fun. It's like playing a retail release except with a level cap and you can only play 1 faction for this weekends beta. Have no idea about balance yet, haven't played nearly enough to make any statements on it.

I "might" be able to get a couple more keys if you guys are interested, let me know :D

On December 05 2010 19:42 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I "might" be able to get a couple more keys if you guys are interested, let me know :D

On December 05 2010 19:42 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I spent a few hours tonight playing the beta of this and it is absolutely awesome.
http://www.riftgame.com/en/

If I didn't have shit to do today I'd probably play it all day lol

The graphics are absolutely beautiful, the gameplay is very smooth, the leveling/speccing system is pretty awesome and kinda unique but it feels rather impractical. They essentially give you 2 (and later 3) "classes" in one but only enough spec points for 1. Early on it's definitely silly, I assumed they'd give you double the points or at least 1.5 per level etc.

It's a pretty standard MMO but it takes a lot of shit from the diff MMOs that makes it pretty cool. They took all the things that work and improved on them or put their own neat little twist on it. Public quests/events like from WAR that get increasingly harder and more fun with levels, pretty standard questing (can't do much to improve Go X kill Y), controls are extremely customizable, the UI is extremely customizable even in beta, won't need many/any mods for this i'm thinking

I haven't gotten to try PVP yet but if I get home in time before the beta shuts down i'm gonna try to get a max'd char on the PVP realm as well.

Out of all the beta's i've been in this one is absolutely the most polished and most fun. It's like playing a retail release except with a level cap and you can only play 1 faction for this weekends beta. Have no idea about balance yet, haven't played nearly enough to make any statements on it.

I "might" be able to get a couple more keys if you guys are interested, let me know :D

On December 05 2010 19:42 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I spent a few hours tonight playing the beta of this and it is absolutely awesome.
http://www.riftgame.com/en/

If I didn't have shit to do today I'd probably play it all day lol

The graphics are absolutely beautiful, the gameplay is very smooth, the leveling/speccing system is pretty awesome and kinda unique but it feels rather impractical. They essentially give you 2 (and later 3) "classes" in one but only enough spec points for 1. Early on it's definitely silly, I assumed they'd give you double the points or at least 1.5 per level etc.

It's a pretty standard MMO but it takes a lot of shit from the diff MMOs that makes it pretty cool. They took all the things that work and improved on them or put their own neat little twist on it. Public quests/events like from WAR that get increasingly harder and more fun with levels, pretty standard questing (can't do much to improve Go X kill Y), controls are extremely customizable, the UI is extremely customizable even in beta, won't need many/any mods for this i'm thinking

I haven't gotten to try PVP yet but if I get home in time before the beta shuts down i'm gonna try to get a max'd char on the PVP realm as well.

Out of all the beta's i've been in this one is absolutely the most polished and most fun. It's like playing a retail release except with a level cap and you can only play 1 faction for this weekends beta. Have no idea about balance yet, haven't played nearly enough to make any statements on it.

I "might" be able to get a couple more keys if you guys are interested, let me know :D

On December 05 2010 19:42 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I "might" be able to get a couple more keys if you guys are interested, let me know :D

On December 05 2010 19:42 sMi.EternaL wrote:


I "might" be able to get a couple more keys if you guys are interested, let me know :D

After the servers came up last night with their 10 mins of downtime for a patch and tweaking the rift spawns the game world got so much more interesting. After leaving the 1st dungeon that is open to us in beta right now we notice on the map that the rifts have opened up and are pouring out mobs and they are taking over towns! Bastard elemental and undead monsters are running wild in the world and pushing toward the capital city! We ran to meet the head of the invasion only to meet easily 300+ mobs going balls crazy on everything in sight. I spent the next few hours pushing the invasion back and closing the rifts. I have no idea how those babies opened up like that and no one killed them. I think most of us at the beta cap were doing instance runs and didn't close the high lvl rifts, so they went crazy on the world.

After we finally closed them up the dev shut the server down to increase the rift spawn rate since everyone gave good feedback on them. Been spending all day questing and fighting these rifts. Game doesn't feel like a grind any more when you almost have to do the public quest or at least check to see people are there to defend the world. If no one is there get ready to see a army moving in on your ass and they will kill you and the mob your attacking and then your quest giver.

Whats really neat is if 2 different plane invasions meet they will fight each other for the right to take towns and land. Water and death clashed last night. When a plane invades it changes the land to make it more like where it came from as it moves out. Death left a barren spiky land with creep from SC looking ground. Water left a ocean coral reef looking stuff behind.

This game is really awesome and can't wait till they open pvp to beta testers. Devs were talking on a pod cast about one side will be able to cross into another and open a rift to distract the other side while they attack somewhere else. Open pvp is back and going to be awesome as hell.

Rift VIP beta keys might be available soon, i'll hold a contest or 1st come 1st served deal i dunno yet. Just depends on if some friends want them or not. I'll keep you all informed about it.

On December 05 2010 19:42 sMi.EternaL wrote:
I spent a few hours tonight playing the beta of this and it is absolutely awesome.
http://www.riftgame.com/en/

If I didn't have shit to do today I'd probably play it all day lol

The graphics are absolutely beautiful, the gameplay is very smooth, the leveling/speccing system is pretty awesome and kinda unique but it feels rather impractical. They essentially give you 2 (and later 3) "classes" in one but only enough spec points for 1. Early on it's definitely silly, I assumed they'd give you double the points or at least 1.5 per level etc.

It's a pretty standard MMO but it takes a lot of shit from the diff MMOs that makes it pretty cool. They took all the things that work and improved on them or put their own neat little twist on it. Public quests/events like from WAR that get increasingly harder and more fun with levels, pretty standard questing (can't do much to improve Go X kill Y), controls are extremely customizable, the UI is extremely customizable even in beta, won't need many/any mods for this i'm thinking

I haven't gotten to try PVP yet but if I get home in time before the beta shuts down i'm gonna try to get a max'd char on the PVP realm as well.

Out of all the beta's i've been in this one is absolutely the most polished and most fun. It's like playing a retail release except with a level cap and you can only play 1 faction for this weekends beta. Have no idea about balance yet, haven't played nearly enough to make any statements on it.

I "might" be able to get a couple more keys if you guys are interested, let me know :D

On December 07 2010 07:58 undyinglight wrote:
If you are looking for a good MMO opt for Guild Wars 2 and not this, Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee. TL is also having a Guild Wars 2 guild that is shaping up rather nicely.

On December 07 2010 08:40 deth wrote:


Please dont come into a rift thread and derail it with GW2 talk.

Didn't get to play as much of the beta this weekend as I would have liked, but it was pretty solid. I have a VIP key so I'll look forward to further tests.

On December 08 2010 20:12 philippo wrote:
This looks amazing! Signed up for a Curse key, any way you could increase your chances to get into the beta? And what are these VIP keys I keep hearing about?

On December 09 2010 12:47 irninja wrote:
Apparently for my sc2 maps I was given a complimentary premium account for two years on curse. Having figured this out two days ago, I also found out I can get free beta keys. I will be trying rift (beta) and be writing a short review of it here.

Heres to good times

On December 09 2010 15:21 undyinglight wrote:


How did you get a complimentary account for this gamer for making Starcraft 2 maps? Are the developers big Starcraft 2 fans or something?

On December 10 2010 03:28 irninja wrote:


Curse.com hosts sc2 maps, which I contributed to, and still do. The email I received was a "thanks" type email for helping "establish quality". Im sure i wasnt the only one, as there are much more dedicated map-makers out there. Take it as you will, thats not what this thread is about.

Being "premium" in curse.com apparently rewards you beta keys, I received a "vip beta key" which I had to input on rift's website to get the dl link.

Hopefully I'll be playing soon, and writing my review, but this will only be a minor speedbump to what GW2 will be.

On December 27 2010 17:58 gnomey wrote:
You guys planning on rolling guardians or defiants if that is whats up this weekend?

I was leaning towards defiant but will definitely switch if everyone here decides to choose guardian.

On December 28 2010 00:01 JJEOS wrote:

I plan on rolling a defiant rogue.

On December 28 2010 00:18 BlueLobster wrote:
anyone has a beta key to spare ? ):

On December 28 2010 02:05 gnomey wrote:


Exactly what I was planning hah

Was going to check out Assassin as first choice then try out the bard class if it doesn't interest me. Loved the bards in Eq2 and Vanguard so I am hoping for something similar to that if the assassin doesn't keep me interested.



Can try http://www.gamesector.net/2010/12/22/rift-beta-key-giveaway/

Said they are giving away 1000 and only around 500 people have posted for one. You have
to post and say what your favorite class is and why....but free beta key soo...hah

On December 28 2010 03:13 Rage178 wrote:
If you wanna get in on the beta, you should definitely do the GSN thing real quick, I will post the link again

http://www.gamesector.net/2010/12/22/rift-beta-key-giveaway/

It's pretty quick, all you have to do is say which of the four classes is your favorite. Check www.riftgame.com if you dont know what the classes are, but there are 1,000 keys and only 573 comments on that page so far. The promo is ending today, so post a comment on there real quick and you can get in!

On December 29 2010 03:33 keit wrote:
name: keit
server: the european pvp server

wont play until later tonight though

On December 29 2010 03:46 JJEOS wrote:
If there are PvP servers available I'd be much rather interested in that since I actually have a solid amount of time to play over these next 3 days.

On December 29 2010 03:58 Khaymus wrote:
I got into the beta 3 but my account is telling me I have not accepted the EULA yet. I have looked everywhere on their site, but have not been able to find it! Any help?

On December 31 2010 00:52 MyLastSerenade wrote:
WOW, this games makes so much fun!

I played my tank up to lvl 13 and had much more fun than in some other mmorpg´s.
They really took the best things out of some other mmorpg´s together and combined it with a good story so far. I hope the endgame and pvp content will good.
I will try some more warrior specs and maybe a rogue spec tonight on the german Server
Trübkopf, if u want to join me, whisper me ingame to " Serenade ".

On January 03 2011 09:34 TriumpHisme wrote:

Cons : If rifts take over and people are being lazy assholes the game is basically unplayable, all the quests are pretty stupid (kill this, get this, activate this) Reminds me of wow

On January 03 2011 09:34 TriumpHisme wrote:
I had the priveledge of being in the beta, i played about 12 hours over the course of 3 days and it really isnt much. Classes are somewhat dynamic using the soul system making over 100+ possibilities for specs.

Pros : Dynamic speccing and customization/amazing graphics/cool scenarios created by the rift mechanic requires server large teamwork and socialization. Mediocre story.

Cons : If rifts take over and people are being lazy assholes the game is basically unplayable, all the quests are pretty stupid (kill this, get this, activate this) Reminds me of wow

Overall i'd say if your looking for an MMO, go play WoW its a much better game more people more things to do and enjoy, much better game overall 27 different types of class you can play overall a very well built game i highly reccomend if you havent already played it.

On January 05 2011 09:55 ProdT wrote:
Im considering to pre order this, but I would like a few opinions of those that have played the beta already.

How is the combat? Is it flexible in terms of movement, similar to WoW?

Are there dungeons or instances? What kind of end game content is there?

Has anyone tried playing Paladin? Whats a good melee utility class?

On January 05 2011 22:19 heishe wrote:
uhm.... just got a key, but where do I download the client?

On January 05 2011 22:25 Ighox wrote:

http://update2.triongames.com/patcher/public/Rift_BETA_Patcher_setup.exe

or login you your account at https://account.riftgame.com/en/ and find the client there :p

On January 06 2011 01:45 heishe wrote:
Uhm... I downloaded the patcher and registered the Beta key with my account (using "apply code"). Now I still can't log in and download the client because it says I need to accept the EULA. How do I do that? I already filled out the form for my beta profile, but there isn't any option in my account manager to accept some kind of eula, and at the bottom of the main page it says " you have not been invited bla bla bla".

Could it be that I need to wait until the next beta "phase" starts before they dig through the accounts that have an activated beta key and invite me?

On January 06 2011 03:29 trainRiderJ wrote:
Those "rift" public events sound intriguing. It sounds like monsters from different realms randomly interrupt the world and attack cities? Can someone in the beta elaborate on how those work? One of the things I've never liked about MMOs is how static the worlds are.

On January 06 2011 07:50 Erucious wrote:
Are these rifts like the rifts that were in Aion?

Also, whats the goal of the PVP? More like Aion (high rank for awesome items, server highest etc etc), or more like Warhammer (where its everyone can get top after a lot of grinding).

Looks like quite a fun game - trying to download the client in preparation of the beta event this friday but... no key yet :<

On January 07 2011 10:13 Nub4ever wrote:
Hmmm after seeing the videos, am I the only one that really dislikes the UI?

On January 07 2011 10:26 Kezzer wrote:
Wow this actually looks really cool

EDIT: Wait, so how do you get a beta key?

On January 07 2011 10:26 Kezzer wrote:
Wow this actually looks really cool

EDIT: Wait, so how do you get a beta key?

On January 07 2011 18:20 sleeepy wrote:
I just got a key... I think...

It says the code was applied to my account, but there's no download button and nothing in my email. Am I supposed to wait or was this some fake code?

This key will allow you access to one of the upcoming beta events for Rift. You will be contacted by email when your beta event draws near, outlining instructions on signing the EULA and how to get in game.

On January 07 2011 18:20 sleeepy wrote:
I just got a key... I think...

It says the code was applied to my account, but there's no download button and nothing in my email. Am I supposed to wait or was this some fake code?

On January 07 2011 21:07 turamn wrote:


Go to the games website, login to your account. At the management page, you will see a a box to accept the eula. Accept it and you will get the download link.

On January 07 2011 21:20 sleeepy wrote:


It says:
+ Show Spoiler +

I don't understand, is an invite different from a key? What does the key get me then?

On January 08 2011 00:37 floor exercise wrote:
Mine which I received sometime last night says Beta_Event4_EN

It's as if they knew I was planning on pre-ordering. Only now I can discover whether I like the game first

On January 07 2011 14:36 VorcePA wrote:


I got a beta key by being subscribed to NVidia's newsletter or something because I've purchased their video cards. Just about finished downloading the game (~3 minutes left of a 7.43 GB file X_X ).

I'm not too terribly excited about this game, but I love testing new games. My irritation comes with the fact that most "top tier" MMOs being released of the past 6 years or so have been fantasy RPGs similar to WoW in a many ways, with their own gimmicky little twist. I'm waiting for a good sci-fi MMO (not EvE, not Planetside) that's going to hook me, but until then I'm just going to bitch these guys out on their forums. D=

edit: keep forgetting that today is thursday and not friday. Beta starts in about 12 hours.

edit 2: also, if you go to the RIFT website, their is a beta sign up link on the front page.

On January 08 2011 02:08 pQylling wrote:
I preordered the game because I think it looks pretty nice, stealing the good stuff from other MMORGPS and adding your own little innovative soul system can't be bad.

I could write a small review of my experiences if anyone is interested

On January 08 2011 02:46 philippo wrote:
Alright, so which shard are you all gonna select, would be great if we all could choose one major to play on and setup a liquid channel.

On January 08 2011 09:29 sleeepy wrote:
So I emailed them about my situation with the keys and this was the response:

+ Show Spoiler +

So... The keys are just for show? wtf?

On January 08 2011 12:37 On_Slaught wrote:
Based on reviews i've read this game is boring, generic and unbalanced.

On January 08 2011 13:13 Aurra wrote:
I got a beta invite e-mail last night and just tried it out.

It's.. ok

The game feels 100% generic in every way. The combat system is just copy and pasted from World of Warcraft. You have the 4 fantasy RPG archtype classes with multiple "sub classes" available which are really just reskinned talent trees. Everything I saw in the gameworld felt bland and soulless, the animations are terrible and really made me feel very disconnected from my character.

It's a "good game" in the sense that everything is fluid and the combat works well, but it's impossible to deny that it is World of Warcraft with all the charm stripped down with Warhammer Online public quests shoved down your throat every 30 feet. I feel that the developers tried so hard to make World of Warcraft again that they forgot to actually come up with original ideas that would make someone play their game over World of Warcraft.

On January 09 2011 03:07 Aurra wrote:
"Beta" is not an excuse for lack of content. They are competing with World of Warcraft content as it stands right now, not World of Warcraft content as it stood in beta.

A new MMO either needs game mechanics that set itself apart from the competition or content that vastly superior than the competition. From what I can tell, Rift has neither.

I'm not saying that the game is bad, I just see no reason to play this over WoW.

Although I'm sure will be a successful MMO regardless as there are plenty of disgruntled WOW players. :p

On January 09 2011 05:57 Sufficiency wrote:
I just played for an hour or so and got to level 5... all by myself. I couldn't find anyone to party with me.

So far I couldn't find anything bad with it. On the other hand,
+ Show Spoiler +
Did anyone try partying yet? How does looting go when you are in a party? Is it like GW which loots are assigned and reserved to particular party members? I am not playing the game if looting is FFA like in D2.

On January 11 2011 02:14 turamn wrote:
To start off, let me present my MMORPG experience so that you can have an idea of where I am coming from. I played Ultima Online through the Second Age, for about 2 years. Then moved on to Dark Age of Camelot until the release of World of Warcraft. I have been playing a Rogue in WoW since release and am currently still an active raider. I am a progression oriented player, with a high focus on end game content. I played a Paragon/Riftstalker for this review, which is a melee dps.

The first thing I'd like to hit is the Graphics and the UI. The UI, as most of you can see, is pretty much a blatant rip off from World of Warcraft. I, personally, have no issue with this whatsoever. Why re-invent the wheel? It's streamlined and has decent functionality. You can scale the UI to resize and drag any window or bar anywhere you would like, something that WoW does not offer without use of addons. My one gripe with the UI is the key bindings. I was unable to locate, which is not to say that this does not exist, a function to keybind my non-primary action bars. This function absolutely needs to be implemented.

The graphics are pretty darn good and I found myself staring at some environments and just thinking "Wow, this is gorgeous". That being said, the game does not currently offer AA and because of that some of the models remain a little rough. I am not sure if they plan to support it or not, but it would definitely help. I had poor frame rates on Max settings in the first beta event, but this has been rectified. Trion did an excellent job of working out the performance issues and I was able to get 70+ FPS in high traffic areas with ease. The MOB models looked pretty nice and there was considerable variance, though I didn't get past level 22 content, so there could be some reuse of models later on. All in all, I'm pretty pleased witht he visual experience that Rift offers, though I do not put much weight personally into graphics when determining whether or not I will play a game.

Combat was pretty common place. Not a whole lot of shiny new stuff here. Rogue classes work off of combo points, exactly like WoW. Warriors use some sort of stamina, similar to energy, and can generate "Attack Points" to use to unleash various finishers. The one gripe I had with the Warrior resource, was that I had a seemingly endless supply. I never had to stop to think about what skill I wanted to use or pool them. I just mashed the buttons in what seemed to be the most effective order. Mage classes use Charge, which is built up by casting spells. Each spell gives a set amount of charge. Charge can be used to do a bunch of neat things, like blow stuff up or reduce mana cost of your next spell. There is no penalty for having a full bar all of the time, other than you do not generate more. It does not drain while in combat once it is gained unless you use it, but once you are out of combat it depletes rapidly. Clerics have no extra resource other than mana.

I found a lot of stuff pretty well in place. The combat animations are much more fluid than World of Warcraft, but they aren't perfect by any means. Damage and healing is displayed in a manner similar to scrolling combat text from WoW, which I prefer, so that is a plus. All in all, I pretty much feel like I am playing any current age MMO when engaging in combat. This may or may not be a positive depending on what you prefer.

PvE was pretty much common place when compared to Warcraft as well. Questing was very similar and I oftentimes would have forgotten that I wasn't playing WoW if the game didn't look so much different. There were some neat quests here and there, but I digress, it's nothing to write home about. The one nice thing about leveling, is at least at the levels that are available, grinding was a viable option for gaining experience. Sometimes I just want to kill things mindlessly and level up and it was nice to have that option. There are also other ways to level up, including PvP experience and collecting Artifacts. Artifacts are remotely interesting, in that they encourage you to explore and try to jump around and do neat stuff with the environment. They work basically, by completing a set. Each artifact will require a set amount of items, which when collected, will form the artifact. I have not found an artifact that works as an actual piece of gear or item yet, but the ones that I have found can be turned in for reasonable experience as well as some good like gold and potions. Artifacts are placed in locations around the world and must be picked up. They are often hidden and require you to be looking out for them. I've found a few in really random places, like in trees that I've climbed while I was jumping around waiting for friends, or ontop of mountains that didn't look like they were meant to be climbed. Pretty neat feature.

Now for the money PvE feature, Rifts. If you are not familiar with the concept, basically what happens, is that randomly, a rift of a specific elemental plane will open. There are stages that you must beat, that require defeating monsters, to close the rifts. They are generally pretty powerful and can be solo'd, but it would take some time. If you successfully close the rift, you are awarded with items, ranging from gear to tokens that can be traded in for crafting materials and neat little clicky items, such as life steal consumables or damage absorbs. If you fail to close the rift, mobs will begin pouring out and begin their warpath to take over any quest hub or town in their vacinity. These can be quite brutal, especially if multiple rifts go unchecked, as you are battling quite a few mobs. I have never been able to successfully solo one of these. It may be possible to do with a self healing class, but I did not have any sort of ability to heal. If they succeed in taking over the town, they will spawn a sort of "mini rift" that spews forth more mobs. They will remain there until killed. One of the cooler features is that different elemental mobs will battle each other. If Fire takes over my town and Water decides it wants to send a force over, they will battle. It's remotely entertaining and highly chaotic. You always have to be aware of where the forces are moving if they are on the map and really shouldn't go afk in a town, as you're likely going to come back dead. It made for a pretty interesting experience. I will admit I was frustrated at times, like when I would go out questing and come back to my hub with 40 + mobs that are 3 levels higher than me dominating the NPCs. All in all, I find Rifts to be a pretty entertaining feature and allow something for you to do other than just mindlessly grind quests or mobs. The rewards also seemed to be pretty powerful, so there is incentive to participate.

I don't really see a NEED for auto grouping for rifts, because everyone gets credit for anything, even if they do not tap the mob. It certainly couldn't hurt though, I suppose. I'm not aware if healing does not contribute to your reward for Rift participation, but if it doesn't, it really needs too and I would imagine that would get changed before release.

The class system is very robust and I found it quite enjoyable. I had a pretty difficult time finding a class since there are so many options and I'm not sure I've really found "my" class just yet. Really, any type of traditional RPG class you can think of exists or can be created through the soul system. If you want to be a caster that does shadow damage and has an elemental pet, you can do that. If you want to be a melee dps that shoots fireballs, you can do that too. It's quite flexible, and even though it may take some time, I feel like anyone can find a class that appeals to their play style.

There are obviously still some balance issues right now and I would imagine that they are being fixed. Rogue damage seems to be too low and Clerics, particularly ones of the DPS tree, seem to be very well off, often being able to stay alive 2v1 and 3v1. It has yet to be determined as to whether or not this is because Clerics are too good or the damage classes don't do enough damage. I am reserving judgement on this until release. The generalizations above were taken from quotes by the devs.

PvP seems to be very straight forward as well, too. The first "Warfront" was available this weekend for testing. Warfront's are basically battlegrounds with objectives that must be achieved for victory, aka WoW's PvP. The one that was available was a hold the flag for points type deal. You got points for killing, but the majority of the points were from holding the item. It seemed reasonably fun for what it was, but I was personally hoping for something a little more unique. I will not be discussing PvP balance, because I am totally clueless on the subject and it would just be purely speculation.

I did play on a PvP server, so Rifts often generated some inter-faction conflict. I was pretty happy to see both factions fighting for them and hope that it continues into release. It adds another dimension into an aspect of the game that I was already pretty happy with.

Overall, Based on my experience through 4 beta weekends, I would say that if you are looking for an alternative to WoW, Rift can definitely be that. If you like the basic fundamentals WoW has, Rift did an awesome job of just transposing them into a new game, with new environment, new story, and some new classes to learn. The class system is phenomenal and if they can balance it reasonably well, I will be a large advocate of the system. The Rifts are fun and are generally rewarding.

If you are looking for something brand new and totally innovative, this game will not be your cup of tea. You're probably already entrenched in WoW and unless you just want a change of scenery, this game may not do it for you. I feel like the game will garner a reasonable amount of support soley from disgruntled WoW players, but it certainly will not be the WoW killer.

Feel free to direct any questions to me and I will do my best to answer. I apologize for the huge wall of text and hope you get something out of this!

turamn wrote:
My one gripe with the UI is the key bindings. I was unable to locate, which is not to say that this does not exist, a function to keybind my non-primary action bars. This function absolutely needs to be implemented.

ProdT wrote:
Damn, I wasn't done testing. I wonder when the next beta is going to be.

On January 11 2011 04:29 turamn wrote:
Thanks! I wanted to write more, but I am at work so I did not have much time. I also didnt want to write an entire page of text in the thread that people had to sift through. Perhaps Ill make a blog and link it here so I can touch on some more things.

On January 11 2011 04:56 BlueLobster wrote:
Had so much fun throughout the beta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFd2vHYsMo

On January 11 2011 05:06 On_Slaught wrote:


Did they reuse EVERY WoW class mechanic or just most of them?

On January 11 2011 05:06 On_Slaught wrote:


Did they reuse EVERY WoW class mechanic or just most of them?

On January 15 2011 03:46 st3roids wrote:
With the current state of world of Magecraft i would gladly play anything else.

As an avid pvper , the current state of cataclysm is laughable. Mage , mages and mages all over , while everyone else is strugling.

I wont even bother with healer state of game and such which are non existand , apart maybe paladins

o and the content in pve ... same old same.

So many wow fanboys that lack the clear thinking to see that the game is shit atm.

Im not saying Rift will be good - i just wait for Swotor honestly - but everything new is always welcome and fyi give it a real chance b4 start the bashing .

On January 21 2011 07:54 Wozie wrote:
Anyone who doesn't have a VIP Key and would like to try Rift out, ZAM is giving them away if you have an account. http://www.zam.com/giveaways/rift.html

On January 21 2011 11:13 luckyseven wrote:
im reading some stuff but can anyone answer, what scale is intended for this game? will there be player housing and boats? (i dont play WoW so i dont know how common this kinda stuff is in games, although i know vanguard could manage it)

also, how fast can you switch weapons? (im thinking for a ranger-assassin switching from bow to melee)

On January 21 2011 11:53 GhostKorean wrote:

Dammit... missed it again ;_;. I really wanna try this game out and see if it would be worth getting over Guild Wars 2... I'm not preording it just for the beta

On January 21 2011 07:54 Wozie wrote:
Anyone who doesn't have a VIP Key and would like to try Rift out, ZAM is giving them away if you have an account. http://www.zam.com/giveaways/rift.html

On January 21 2011 12:23 sleeepy wrote:


Thanks a ton! Good to know I'll be in the next beta for sure as I really liked beta 4.

On January 21 2011 14:02 luckyseven wrote:
am i right in thinking it only goes to lv51 at launch? im looking at maxing Marksman then having enough to get crippliing shot from Ranger. after that id wanna upgrade Assassin to get better stealth, or possibly riftshifter to get planeshifting (teleportation is awesome but so is advanced stealth!!)


skill trees http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html

On January 21 2011 13:02 mikku wrote:
* We are unable to redeem your voucher at this time. Please try again later.


Trion site not redeeming keys at the moment >:/

On January 21 2011 11:53 GhostKorean wrote:

Dammit... missed it again ;_;. I really wanna try this game out and see if it would be worth getting over Guild Wars 2... I'm not preording it just for the beta

On January 21 2011 15:02 Wozie wrote:

I would try several times and it should go through, I know a few people on the Rift forums were having this problem. Worst case I know Rift support gets back to people pretty quick so you could always try that.

On January 21 2011 12:55 luckyseven wrote:
vip beta keys here
http://www.zam.com/giveaways/rift.html

then apply the key here
https://rift.trionworlds.com/account/profile/view.action

On January 21 2011 17:14 Cel.erity wrote:
Although I didn't play the game too much (only for the last beta event), I can give a quick summary of my impressions:

PVE: This game is nothing new, which is fine. It uses a tried-and-true Everquest formula. The UI is fully customizable, but incredibly annoying to customize. Some animations look pretty terrible, but compared to WoW of course they are outstanding. I did not experience any video or network lag in populated areas, which is a very promising sign for a beta.

PVP: Prepare for disappointment. First of all, it appears there will not be much variety for instanced PVP (battlegrounds), with only 2 warfronts being released at launch, but they will likely add more. Additional PVP opportunities will be limited to world PVP objectives, and we all know how well that works.

The real death of PVP in this game will be its innovative multiclass system. In case you are unfamiliar with game theory, sometimes more options actually limits your choices. There are so many combinations of souls in this game that few will actually be PVP-viable. Most combinations have little PVP synergy, and you are forced to go deep into one tree to get the key skills. Additionally, there will be special souls that only high-ranking PVPers can obtain, with special skills geared for PVP. That means, eventually, everybody will be forced to use a PVP soul to be competitive, limiting you to only 2 other souls. On top of this, since there are so many skills in this game and classes are not apparent by armor, you never know what your opponent is capable of until they do it. This is a problem, like playing RvR in SC2 with no scouting. Part of the fun of PVP in WoW is that you understand what your opponents are capable of, and you prepare for it. High-level play can only be achieved when both sides have access to near-perfect information.

Basically: This game has Warhammer Online written all over it. Sorry.

On January 22 2011 10:30 DorF wrote:
Since GW2 coming out I can't see this game lasting ...I really can't see any MMORP lasting when GW2 hits o_O

On January 22 2011 10:30 DorF wrote:
Since GW2 coming out I can't see this game lasting ...I really can't see any MMORP lasting when GW2 hits o_O

On January 22 2011 14:25 Laids wrote:
I just got gifted a key by a very nice forum goer :D

I suppose I just have to wait for them to send me an email for the client download? :>

On January 22 2011 14:40 sleeepy wrote:
I too have another 25 use key. PM me if you want to try out the remaining 3 betas.

On January 22 2011 14:40 sleeepy wrote:
I too have another 25 use key. PM me if you want to try out the remaining 3 betas.

On January 22 2011 16:14 metaldragon wrote:
I love team liquid. You guys are really the best!

GhostKorean wrote
Ummm I got a beta key and I put it into my account but I think I did it incorrectly because I got a dl link from someone and downloaded it from there and then I filled out the information for the beta and now I'm getting an error (error #2002) when I try to log in and download the game. My friend said I need to agree to some EULA but I can't figure out where or how to do that... anyone help me out?

MaYuu
This looks like a shit ripoff on Tera

On January 23 2011 16:23 MaYuu wrote:
This looks like a shit ripoff on Tera

On January 23 2011 16:26 sleeepy wrote:


You can only play during the beta events; its not up all the time. Next event starts on the 25th at 10pm Pacific.



I have no idea how you can think that, the games look nothing alike. I guess you can go play Tera if you're into that furry hentai shit, I personally wouldn't touch it if they gave it away for free.

On January 23 2011 16:32 GhostKorean wrote:

But I can't log in to download the game?

On January 23 2011 16:23 MaYuu wrote:
This looks like a shit ripoff on Tera

On January 23 2011 17:04 GhostKorean wrote:
Errr I downloaded a "patcher" which I thought was more like a downloader for the game. When I log into the website it says "You have not yet been invited to a beta event." even though I put in a beta key in my account. An above poster said the client was around 8 gigs but mine was only 18 mb so something is up :\

On January 23 2011 17:15 Reptilia wrote:
this is EXACTly like wow but with forced classes.

On January 22 2011 10:42 kiy0 wrote:
(coff) WoW ripoff... (coff) (coff) ...

On January 23 2011 17:18 GhostKorean wrote:
Are the RIFT Beta VIP and Beta keys any different? I have the Beta VIP... :\ this is so very confusing. So I wait until beta actually starts and then I have a chance to get in to play it? Bleh :\

Out of curiosity, been kinda glancing at this. How is the PvE content? More specifically, is it anything like cataclysm heroics/raids in low gear levels difficulty, and is it just mindless tank/spank/switch target like that boss above seemed to be, or are there any other mechanics to watch out for?

Errr I downloaded a "patcher" which I thought was more like a downloader for the game. When I log into the website it says "You have not yet been invited to a beta event." even though I put in a beta key in my account. An above poster said the client was around 8 gigs but mine was only 18 mb so something is up :\

On January 23 2011 16:30 Sufficiency wrote:


Well, all MMORPG, to me, are kind of the same.

On January 24 2011 01:33 SaetZero wrote:

Rift VIP beta key - can be used 25 times, i used once so now 24. Go nuts. Just dont use it if you aren't gonna play the game for more than like 30 minutes.