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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 31 2012 04:45 GMT
#5261
I just dont see what banning actually accomplishes when you can just fix your fuckup and everything moves forward.
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Cheesedawg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States182 Posts
August 31 2012 04:54 GMT
#5262
On August 31 2012 13:45 Medrea wrote:
I just dont see what banning actually accomplishes when you can just fix your fuckup and everything moves forward.

It gets rid of people who take advantage of things and willingly abuse game mechanics in favor of people who practice responsible disclosure, and show understanding that the game is new, things are broken, and would rather have a good game going forward, then just getting ahead at the developers expense.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 05:04:50
August 31 2012 04:58 GMT
#5263
That's a suckers attitude (not saying you are a sucker of course). For many its natural to find small advantages and build upon them. Some people call it being hardcore or a tryhard, usually its just natural.

Next thing is they will ban people for using a certain ability I know of to move around the map faster. Only intended to be used against enemies, obvious exploit!
Ban people for killing a boss in not exactly the intended manner.

It just sets a bad tone. Don't ban people who gave you 60 bucks. Fix the abusive mechanic, blame the game not the player.

Or at least do both.

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When did releasing a broken game become acceptable? It's totally moved from being the devs problem, and now its the customers fault for not finding it before release.
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Cheesedawg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States182 Posts
August 31 2012 05:04 GMT
#5264
On August 31 2012 13:58 Medrea wrote:
That's a suckers attitude. For many its natural to find small advantages and build upon them.

Next thing is they will ban people for using a certain ability I know of to move around the map faster. Only inteded to be used against enemies, obvious exploit!
Ban people for killing a boss in not exactly the intended manner.

It just sets a bad tone. Don't ban people who gave you 60 bucks. Fix the abusive mechanic, blame the game not the player.

How is this a suckers attitude, I want my games to be filled with people who aren't going to screw everyone else over, including developers, in the name of "winning".

Sure, small advantages here and there are what will get you ahead, but this was in no way a small advantage.

What you are suggesting is that you will be able to move around from one thing to another quicker then others, and, unless this "small" advantage would result in you breaking the economy by not allowing anyone else to farm mobs or would result in getting 30 times more karma then a normal player would be able to. Go right ahead and continue.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 05:17:38
August 31 2012 05:08 GMT
#5265
Its a PvP focused game. Of course people are looking for ways to screw others over. Big small or medium.

One time I got banned for "roofing" in World of Warcraft.
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I was tile jumping on this roof thats connected to the motherfucking ground lol. So you can say I'm biased against dumb bans even if they dont amount to much.

Also, how bad could the exploit could have been if all equipment is reduced to stock and all levels are equalized in PvP?

Also being able to move around quicker than others is ENORMOUS in a game like GW2.
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ThirstyFish
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)20 Posts
August 31 2012 05:12 GMT
#5266
my installation stops at 10141 kb.. tried it more than 10 times. same problem.. any helps??
Cheesedawg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States182 Posts
August 31 2012 05:22 GMT
#5267
On August 31 2012 14:08 Medrea wrote:
Its a PvP focused game. Of course people are looking for ways to screw others over. Big small or medium.

One time I got banned for "roofing" in World of Warcraft.
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I was tile jumping on this roof thats connected to the motherfucking ground lol. So you can say I'm biased against dumb bans even if they dont amount to much.

Also, how bad could the exploit could have been if all equipment is reduced to stock and all levels are equalized in PvP?

Also being able to move around quicker than others is ENORMOUS in a game like GW2.

The exploit could have been very bad, money is not extremely easy to make in GW2, and this would have injected a large amount of money to a small group of people who saw fit to use very obviously broken merchant to buy more weapons then they could even hold.

Also, if you think that this is such a HUGE boon to people in GW2, then perhaps you should not have called it a small advantage, and just report it without it announcing it to the world so that it can be fixed.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 31 2012 05:31 GMT
#5268
Either way. If Arenanet was running D3 I woulda been banned like 9 times already lol. Loot multiplication, chest runs, explosive palm multiplication, manual bid cancelation with time clock, list goes on.
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 05:49:19
August 31 2012 05:47 GMT
#5269
Good thing this isn't run like D3. This is an MMO, and has no business being run like an dungeon crawler. "Hey man, i totally cheated the fuckin hell outaa this otha game, and no banz, why can't these GW2 guys be cool like that too?" Fail logic much?

Cheesedawg, you may as well drop it. Some people honestly can't comprehend the impact their exploiting actually has on the game/other players as a whole, and had no idea that buying 100+ of an incredibly, obviously underpriced item for their own gain wasn't how the game was meant to be played.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 06:06:07
August 31 2012 05:55 GMT
#5270
One of my friends bought over a thousand of the exploited item (asked in the reddit thread and an arenanet dev responded with the actual number) and used it on the mystic forge over and over, ending up with about a half a dozen level 80 exotic pieces of gear (which is BIS or close to BIS from my understanding).

It was definitely ban-worthy and he even admitted it. You know when you're doing something like that it's obviously an exploit, there's just no excuse and the only thing you hope at that point is that you don't get caught because if you do, there really isn't an argument about whether you're guilty or not, especially when they load their TOA with warnings that they will in fact perma-ban you for serious game-breaking exploits. I'm just glad for everyone that they are going to lift the perma-bans to temp-bans for this initial fiasco.

I'm not sure how truthful this is but I was also told that anyone who bought the item less than 40 times wasn't even punished, and anyone who bought it less than 100 times was only given the 72 hr bans (although they ended up lifting all the perm-bans to 72 hr bans for those who choose to petition it).
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
August 31 2012 06:00 GMT
#5271
Wow, was feeling very underwhelmed by the game and bored very quickly with the PvE. Gave WvWvW a try and it was fucking sweet. Felt like I was in a massive LOTR battle, shit was flying everywhere, bodies all over the ground, and a million ppl spamming "THIS IS SPARTA" on chat. This is exactly what everyone wanted out of Warhammer online but did not recieve. And I can do this at lvl 6 thx to scaling. Epic Win.
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
August 31 2012 06:05 GMT
#5272
On August 31 2012 12:56 Medrea wrote:
Everyone I know is getting banned from this game. Its left and right. All they did was use vendors to either sell things or buy things off of vendors.

Game is not safe right now. I would just log out until everything blows over and they fix the game.

There is NO telling what is or is not a ban-worthy item right now. Maybe Arenanet will come out with a list items that if you buy they will ban you. Or maybe add a dialogue in the game "Warning if you buy this item you will be banned".


And everyone I know is playing the game and having the time of their lives. They also knew better than to use the vendors to get an OBVIOUS unfair advantage using a clear exploit that Arenanet failed to notice.

If your friends got banned they deserved it, anyway 72hour ban if they delete everything they gained from it, so they should count themselves lucky they arn't buying the game again.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 31 2012 06:53 GMT
#5273
As someone who gets bored with MMOs very quick these days, does this one have any staying power?
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
August 31 2012 06:55 GMT
#5274
Can any explain to me how homeworlds work and how I can play with friends when their server is full?
Cheesedawg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States182 Posts
August 31 2012 06:55 GMT
#5275
Well I would say yes, but seeing as we are all of 6 days in at this point, it's a bit early to tell.
Callagan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 07:06:17
August 31 2012 07:01 GMT
#5276
On August 31 2012 15:55 Pwnographics wrote:
Can any explain to me how homeworlds work and how I can play with friends when their server is full?


A homeworld is the main realm you'll play on. Eventually, when free transfers go away, you'll be able to guest on other realms, which'll let you participate in PvE and sPvP (I think), but not WvW. Also, while you can join guilds from any server, you'll only gain benefits that your homeworld has upgraded.

The only way to join a full world is to wait for it to be not full. If it never becomes not full, I don't think you can transfer to it. Sorry.

On August 31 2012 15:53 AnomalySC2 wrote:
As someone who gets bored with MMOs very quick these days, does this one have any staying power?


If you enjoy competitive small group PvP, this will probably be your MMO for a long, long time. If you enjoy massive PvP battles, it's also a lot of fun. If you enjoy exploring, this will keep you occupied for a good while. The PvE, however, has several momentum issues where you can stop dead in your tracks due to bad luck. We also have no idea how much they'll support endgame PvE content.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 31 2012 07:43 GMT
#5277
On August 31 2012 15:00 XXXSmOke wrote:
Wow, was feeling very underwhelmed by the game and bored very quickly with the PvE. Gave WvWvW a try and it was fucking sweet. Felt like I was in a massive LOTR battle, shit was flying everywhere, bodies all over the ground, and a million ppl spamming "THIS IS SPARTA" on chat. This is exactly what everyone wanted out of Warhammer online but did not recieve. And I can do this at lvl 6 thx to scaling. Epic Win.


I fully agree man. The WvW is extremely fun! Especially if people actually do fight for it. Right now my server is having no troubles whatsoever(Henge of Denavi, home to the Titan Alliance) and we are itching for the server matchups to work properly and having proper 3way server battles
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 31 2012 07:54 GMT
#5278
On August 31 2012 15:00 XXXSmOke wrote:
Wow, was feeling very underwhelmed by the game and bored very quickly with the PvE. Gave WvWvW a try and it was fucking sweet. Felt like I was in a massive LOTR battle, shit was flying everywhere, bodies all over the ground, and a million ppl spamming "THIS IS SPARTA" on chat. This is exactly what everyone wanted out of Warhammer online but did not recieve. And I can do this at lvl 6 thx to scaling. Epic Win.


I just wish they would allow PvP gear in WvW. You can play WvW at level 6 but someone at level 80 will still trash you all the time just because he has better equipment.

They have this great PvP equip system and insist on not using it in WvW :-/
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 31 2012 07:58 GMT
#5279
On August 31 2012 16:54 Morfildur wrote:
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On August 31 2012 15:00 XXXSmOke wrote:
Wow, was feeling very underwhelmed by the game and bored very quickly with the PvE. Gave WvWvW a try and it was fucking sweet. Felt like I was in a massive LOTR battle, shit was flying everywhere, bodies all over the ground, and a million ppl spamming "THIS IS SPARTA" on chat. This is exactly what everyone wanted out of Warhammer online but did not recieve. And I can do this at lvl 6 thx to scaling. Epic Win.


I just wish they would allow PvP gear in WvW. You can play WvW at level 6 but someone at level 80 will still trash you all the time just because he has better equipment.

They have this great PvP equip system and insist on not using it in WvW :-/

I mean... what would be the point otherwise, why would anyone ever play the PvE? The end game is apparently nothing worth writing home about, at least you can feel that "I will get good gear and then I will pwn in WvWvW". It's so casual and zergy anyway, so it's not a big deal.
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
August 31 2012 08:49 GMT
#5280
Arena.net is showing a horrible, complacent attitude. The only exploit here is Arena.net itself.

Hint: I'm not playing GW2 anyway and I know why.
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