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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
August 30 2012 23:27 GMT
#5221
I'm not sure what you are trying to say, I haven't feigned ignorance or anything, this was clearly a fuck up on Arenanets part and at the time it really didn't seem like a big issue to me. To be honest, I would have never imagined getting permanently banned for doing this.

But C'est la vie, lesson learned, now I'm just trying to figure out if I can get my account unbanned or not
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
August 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#5222
Permanent ban does seem rather harsh, a few people on r/guildwars2 are also saying they've recieved the same.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/z3s7f/botting_gets_72hour_bann_and_buying_some_21_karma/
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#5223
haha I just found out that like people have already been permabanned because of some epxloit? haha glad I lost interest abit after the weekend and had reallife obgligations and could only play until lvl 20 otherwise I admit I would have exploitet the shit out of that only to get permabanned.

Seems like Kungen's whole guild got perma'd and his acc should follow soon.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 23:40:08
August 30 2012 23:39 GMT
#5224
On August 31 2012 08:33 Valenius wrote:
Permanent ban does seem rather harsh, a few people on r/guildwars2 are also saying they've recieved the same.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/z3s7f/botting_gets_72hour_bann_and_buying_some_21_karma/

Well to be fair, I think in some cases it was justified. I went over the top and salvaged like 100 weapons (2000 Karma worth), which really was nothing compared to the thousands some people did but still pretty excessive.

But overall I'm not too bummed out by this, I wasn't having as much fun as I expected with Guild Wars 2, so I'll probably give this game a pass if my ban stays

Saddest part about all of this was that I'm only level30, I couldn't even use the materials I salvaged nor equip the weapons I bought for another 10 levels
Br33zyy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States296 Posts
August 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#5225
I just went into my first dungeon as level 30 and had the worst experience ever with this game. Half-way through i had to re log due to lag. As i came back in i was in my own dungeon with no way of being able to join my groups dungeon. We joined on overflow so i don't know if that had any problem with it. But I'm VERYYY annoyed at how that went down. You would think with all the testing this stuff would have been weeded out.
Ohhh lawd..
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 23:54:10
August 30 2012 23:51 GMT
#5226
I can see why they would ban accounts though, because apparently you can reforge these weapons into non-soulbound level 80 Orange items, if people are sitting on hundreds of these weapons right now it could really give the economy a huge shock that would take quite some time to recover from.

I get where Arenanet is coming from, in that regard. It is probably better in their eyes to ban the 4k odd people and stop these items from getting out there than deal with a raped economy for everyone within the server.

In my case though I salvaged everything by 1 of each weapon (I was gonna use them when I got to level60), so maybe I might have a chance of getting unbanned.

I have a feeling if I get roll-backed that I would probably stop playing anyway though
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 31 2012 00:04 GMT
#5227
The issue is to look at it objectively you looked like a guy who was trying to essentially exploit a bug not for just say personal gain(bought like 12 got some weapons I wanted and done) but bought enough to potentially tamper with the econ itself.

Twitter from Arenanet said that the magic number is around 50-100. At that number you can actually make some rather massive gains while screwing the econ of the server. Most likely yet another reason mail is down.

While I understand that I am sure some people didn't mean to do so and or they had no real intention of just screwing over anyone it still looks bad when you buy that much. Best I can tell you is appeal and hope for the best.

On one hand I feel people caught by accident had to of known this was bad(I remember an old WoW TBC exploit of free t3 vendor also punished) but I also don't like some friends I know being banned even if what they did was to be blunt stupid.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 31 2012 00:11 GMT
#5228
Old guild wars 1 veterans will remember the duping in the tradingwindow exploit when braceleg suddenly became mass items hehe and how anet handled that situation with bans essentially, common sense should also tell people to not exploit it. I like how they created a big example to not fuck around with them so earlymafter release xad
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
August 31 2012 00:18 GMT
#5229
On August 31 2012 09:04 Parnage wrote:
The issue is to look at it objectively you looked like a guy who was trying to essentially exploit a bug not for just say personal gain(bought like 12 got some weapons I wanted and done) but bought enough to potentially tamper with the econ itself.

Twitter from Arenanet said that the magic number is around 50-100. At that number you can actually make some rather massive gains while screwing the econ of the server. Most likely yet another reason mail is down.

While I understand that I am sure some people didn't mean to do so and or they had no real intention of just screwing over anyone it still looks bad when you buy that much. Best I can tell you is appeal and hope for the best.

On one hand I feel people caught by accident had to of known this was bad(I remember an old WoW TBC exploit of free t3 vendor also punished) but I also don't like some friends I know being banned even if what they did was to be blunt stupid.

Yeah I see where Arenanet is coming from and I don't fault them at all. But since I did salvage virtually everything, hopefully they might be able to review my case a bit different. My ticket has been submitted, Fingers crossed
SpyNinja
Profile Joined December 2011
United States78 Posts
August 31 2012 00:20 GMT
#5230
holy shit this game takes forever to download.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 00:29:07
August 31 2012 00:28 GMT
#5231
Surprised they might be putting out perma bans, but I don't really feel bad for people. Was fairly obvious something was wrong, people need a modicum of restraint.

Still wish I had picked up a couple, now that I'm hearing they're only banning for large amounts. xD
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 31 2012 00:33 GMT
#5232
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/z3qqm/guild_wars_2_status_thursday_august_30/


Update on the bans.

Krip's account has apparently been perma-banned. Looks like AN went down hard on this exploit. He first received a 72hr account suspension, when appeals were made that he SHOWED the world the exploit without informing AN, his suspension became a perma-ban.

I feel this set a good precedent though. For those people who says perma-ban is too harsh, i beg to differ. Exploits like this ruins games. With this heavy handed punishment, you can be sure that its a good warning for the future, that any exploits that were abused WILL be dealt with. This should deter people from abusing the exploits and spoiling others good clean fun.

Yes they can just 72hr-ban + rollback, but its not a deterrant. This perma-ban is a deterrant. I mean who would stop abusing exploits if u know all you get the most is just a ban and a rollback. This perma-ban is great.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
August 31 2012 01:14 GMT
#5233
haha... damn I'm bad at this game. I just now found out what traits were... and I'm level 22. No wonder my "personal story" was kicking my ass. I"m a warrior btw.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 31 2012 01:24 GMT
#5234
By the time they are done banning people there is going to be one one left to play their game lol

Back to WoW they go!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 31 2012 01:39 GMT
#5235
For the TL guild on Emhry Bay, can I get added? LoveTT.3672
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
CarelessPride
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
August 31 2012 01:47 GMT
#5236
lol i dont get why people are defending gw2 =.= their not glitching the game. I'm fairly sure buying items with karma and turning into gold was intended in the game design. if they happen to overlook a loophole in the system thats the fucken penalty for having 2 types of in game economy. I think why people would even support AN on this decision is because their jealous that their not in on that exploit or scared of people exploiting becasue their not smart enough themselves to think of ways to exploit. =.= kinda ina way like the 99% bitches at the 1% for the economy issues except in the case this is an even playing field and is as fair as it can be. ( im neither one of those people exploiting nor the ones banned. but im just suprised people are actually supporting a company whos treating your terms of agreement like a piece of trash because of their poor game design)
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 31 2012 01:54 GMT
#5237
On August 31 2012 10:47 CarelessPride wrote:
lol i dont get why people are defending gw2 =.= their not glitching the game. I'm fairly sure buying items with karma and turning into gold was intended in the game design. if they happen to overlook a loophole in the system thats the fucken penalty for having 2 types of in game economy. I think why people would even support AN on this decision is because their jealous that their not in on that exploit or scared of people exploiting becasue their not smart enough themselves to think of ways to exploit. =.= kinda ina way like the 99% bitches at the 1% for the economy issues except in the case this is an even playing field and is as fair as it can be. ( im neither one of those people exploiting nor the ones banned. but im just suprised people are actually supporting a company whos treating your terms of agreement like a piece of trash because of their poor game design)


First of all, i like how your attacking people for not having the same opinion as you.

Secondly, i also love how much entitlement you feel. Listen. The game you bought? You didnt buy the "GAME", you boughts its license. The license to play according to the rules decided by the company who made the game. Guess who made the game and has the last say anyway? You who didnt even read the TOS before clicking "I agree" do not have the right to call out AN over this.

Thirdly, attacking people's motives for supporting the banhammer? Great move. I like how you call people like me "jealous/not smart enough" to do an exploit. Guess what? I guess im smart enough not to get banned unlike all the "smart" exploiters out there.

Last point i want to make is that if you think their not glitching the game, think again. Look at Diablo3. Starting out the exploits were plenty, from goblin farming to chest farming to Force Armor exploits etc. Do you think the exploits didnt ruin the game? I can tell you it did. It only benefited those who exploited, and weren't punished for it.

I am actually happy AN isn't following the path of Blizzard on how they ruined D3 trading. This is needed and essential.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
August 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#5238
i'm actually scared to do anything in the game now
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
August 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#5239
Yeah, I don't understand all the perm-bans that are coming with this. They left the exploit in, that was their mistake, to permaban someone for taking advantage of a flaw that they missed is kinda rididculous. Seems like they didn't do enough testing internally if they didn't realize people would powerlevel like that.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 02:01:26
August 31 2012 01:57 GMT
#5240
On August 31 2012 10:47 CarelessPride wrote:
lol i dont get why people are defending gw2 =.= their not glitching the game. I'm fairly sure buying items with karma and turning into gold was intended in the game design. if they happen to overlook a loophole in the system thats the fucken penalty for having 2 types of in game economy. I think why people would even support AN on this decision is because their jealous that their not in on that exploit or scared of people exploiting becasue their not smart enough themselves to think of ways to exploit. =.= kinda ina way like the 99% bitches at the 1% for the economy issues except in the case this is an even playing field and is as fair as it can be. ( im neither one of those people exploiting nor the ones banned. but im just suprised people are actually supporting a company whos treating your terms of agreement like a piece of trash because of their poor game design)


Hahahahahaha. Hahahaha. That was actually hilarious. Jealous of not being in on the exploit? It was posted everywhere on the internet. Most people don't want to think of ways to exploit a game like this, so very few people try.

Buying hundreds or thousands of an under priced item that in turn will make the exploiter very rich (Assuming they sell the items) and in turn ruin the economy of the game in it's infancy.. you really think that's intended in the game design?

Most people were smart enough to realise that this is exploiting a mistake by ANet, and it wouldn't end up well for them. Perma bans are -perhaps- a bit too harsh, but I have a feeling they'll tone down a lot of those.
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