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wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
March 31 2013 22:42 GMT
#661
Metal Gear Solid is a 10 hour movie. This game, though, is cinematic and interactive practically the whole time. There are very few moments where you don't have control. Sure it's linear and there's a prescribed path, but so was the original Half-Life.
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 22:47:57
March 31 2013 22:45 GMT
#662
+ Show Spoiler +


I have been giving the ending scene some thought. Drowning is a recurring theme in the game, and it clearly symbolizes the washing away of Booker's sins. However, by drowning him, Elizabeth washes away his sins of the past, the present, and the sins he may still commit in the future.

This is all pretty logical and I think most of you figured this out already, but there's another something I'd like to add. Remember how Elizabeth was repeatedly called the 'Lamb of the Prophet'? I can't help but link that, and the aforementioned scene to the following biblical quote: 'the lamb that washes away the sins of the world'. In-game she does it by either destroying New York ("the sodom below") or making sure that certain sins can never be committed by drowning DeWitt.

I'm quite impressed by the depth of this story, to be honest.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 23:19:09
March 31 2013 23:14 GMT
#663
On March 29 2013 16:38 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 10:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
A masterpiece seems like a term of perfection, maartendq.

Not necessarily. I find Beethoven's 9th symphony a masterpiece, but that doesn't mean that there aren't moments I find a bit boring. You can be a master of your craft yet still realize that there are areas you can improve upon. If Bioshock: Infinite was a perfect game, the other developers may as well close their books because nothing will ever be able to top it.
I see, but isn't it the "boring" parts that makes the great parts greater, thus playing their role in the perfection/masterpiece? However, I see where you are aiming at, and I think you are right nonetheless, even if I still believe the masterpiece tag, is - to me - the perfection of ones' craft - the craftmanship of one that mastered his art to perfection, making it all come together.

Maybe the "problem" is that perfection is a subjective abstract - much like masterpiece.
LiangHao
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 01 2013 00:36 GMT
#664
+ Show Spoiler +
Just finished it.

I get the False Shepherd/Prophet contrast with the end baptism parallel.

Overall, good game. I felt the ending was stretched pretty hard, but knitted neatly together. Not quite as satisfying as Bioshock 1 (not talking from nostalgia, since I played the game two years ago for the first time)
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
April 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#665
Let me make sure I got this straight

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Elizabeth kills you to stop the endless timeline, but she kills you when you were baptized ie: before she was born so she disappears after killing you since you never got married and got a wife, but (via knowledge gleaned from the post-credits) since she disappeared due to you dying and never having her in the first place, she never existed in the first place to kill you at the baptism therefore you come back to life but all the timelines merge into one and Elizabeth is just a normal little girl in a cradle at the end
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 01 2013 03:02 GMT
#666
On April 01 2013 11:36 Fruscainte wrote:
Let me make sure I got this straight

+ Show Spoiler +
Elizabeth kills you to stop the endless timeline, but she kills you when you were baptized ie: before she was born so she disappears after killing you since you never got married and got a wife, but (via knowledge gleaned from the post-credits) since she disappeared due to you dying and never having her in the first place, she never existed in the first place to kill you at the baptism therefore you come back to life but all the timelines merge into one and Elizabeth is just a normal little girl in a cradle at the end

+ Show Spoiler +
well no. there is a branch in universes at the baptism, half of which booker gets baptized as zachary comstock, half he walks away as booker and has his daughter. The elizabeths who were raised in comstocks tower all kill booker as he chooses to be baptized. this makes it so bookers choice is : walk away and have his daughter and live his life, or die. effectively ending any possible Anna's raised as elizabeth by eliminating any comstocks.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
April 01 2013 03:41 GMT
#667
I think this is one of a handful of games where my AI companion is actually enjoyable to be with.


Most times I want to shoot them more often than keep them around, haha.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
April 01 2013 04:04 GMT
#668
Got the game for 39$, time to see what the hype is about.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
April 01 2013 04:13 GMT
#669
On April 01 2013 13:04 rezoacken wrote:
Got the game for 39$, time to see what the hype is about.

You are in for a treat. Many times as I was playing I just had to say over and over again, "OH MY GOD! This game is fucking amazing!"
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
April 01 2013 04:33 GMT
#670
PS3 version came with the first Bioshock, going to play through that one first.
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
April 01 2013 05:18 GMT
#671
On April 01 2013 13:33 riotjune wrote:
PS3 version came with the first Bioshock, going to play through that one first.


Not a bad call. They're both pretty different, but there are just some refinements with Infinite that going back might be annoying.
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wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
April 01 2013 05:18 GMT
#672
On April 01 2013 13:13 Yergidy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 13:04 rezoacken wrote:
Got the game for 39$, time to see what the hype is about.

You are in for a treat. Many times as I was playing I just had to say over and over again, "OH MY GOD! This game is fucking amazing!"


Mm-hm. I'm giving myself a few weeks before I play it again. But I'm definitely tempted to just do it again. It's magical.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 01 2013 05:34 GMT
#673
On April 01 2013 14:18 wUndertUnge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 13:13 Yergidy wrote:
On April 01 2013 13:04 rezoacken wrote:
Got the game for 39$, time to see what the hype is about.

You are in for a treat. Many times as I was playing I just had to say over and over again, "OH MY GOD! This game is fucking amazing!"


Mm-hm. I'm giving myself a few weeks before I play it again. But I'm definitely tempted to just do it again. It's magical.

When you do focus on the twins. so interesting and well done.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
April 01 2013 05:52 GMT
#674
Fuck, I just got to the part where + Show Spoiler +
Elizabeth gets taken away from you by the big ear-splittingly loud bird..


now I'm at the part where the guys are all wearing those stupid heads, I almost pissed my pants when the one came wheeling out on the wheelchair, and now I'm too terrified to go into the room where there's hundreds of the heads on the walls/on mannequins.

I have a really unreasonable fear of non-human humans, if that makes any sense...
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 01 2013 06:08 GMT
#675
On April 01 2013 14:52 Torenhire wrote:
Fuck, I just got to the part where + Show Spoiler +
Elizabeth gets taken away from you by the big ear-splittingly loud bird..


now I'm at the part where the guys are all wearing those stupid heads, I almost pissed my pants when the one came wheeling out on the wheelchair, and now I'm too terrified to go into the room where there's hundreds of the heads on the walls/on mannequins.

I have a really unreasonable fear of non-human humans, if that makes any sense...


That part isn't too long, though.

You'll make it!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 06:10:41
April 01 2013 06:10 GMT
#676
I'm creeping through inch by inch LOL

omg if they come alive I'm not sleeping for months
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
April 01 2013 06:21 GMT
#677
This might possibly be the best game I've ever played.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28094 Posts
April 01 2013 06:42 GMT
#678
Man this game is getting good

I'm going so slow though, this might take me forever to complete. Just so much stuff to explore.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 01 2013 06:47 GMT
#679
something in the BioShock 1 game that indicates BioShock Infinite has been planned for quite a while?

+ Show Spoiler +
similar high pitch sound as Songbird's:
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
April 01 2013 06:53 GMT
#680
On April 01 2013 15:42 TheEmulator wrote:
Man this game is getting good

I'm going so slow though, this might take me forever to complete. Just so much stuff to explore.

That's what i'm doing, taking my time and just soaking in the amazing city and the subtle things in it.
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
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