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On March 28 2013 00:42 MotherOfRunes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 00:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 28 2013 00:30 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:23 ZasZ. wrote:On March 28 2013 00:00 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 23:48 Saryph wrote:On March 27 2013 22:47 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 20:56 Saryph wrote:
easily the best game I've ever played] you are one of those hundreds who get paid for posts like this??( not trolling, its serious business) Clearly I couldn't have just finished the game and really enjoyed it, as it offers something I have not experienced before. Clearly all of the people giving it such great reviews are all paid. you are one of those hundreds who love complaining about how every new game sucks?? (not trolling, its serious business) seriously calling a mediocre shooter the best game ever just sounded suspicious....i just asked a question no reason to be mad , son Mediocre is your opinion, not objective fact. By insinuating he was somehow paid to put his opinion on TeamLiquid, you're basically saying you think his opinion is wrong and no honest person could possibly have it. That's probably why he is "mad, son," even though his response is just as hostile as your original post, which just makes you a U MAD BRO troll. There was no point to your original post other than to rile him up. If you don't like the game, give us something more than "YOU LIKED IT? LOLOL" in subtle troll-speak. On-topic: I'm only about 2 hours in, but enjoying it so far. Reminds me of the fun I had playing the original Bioshock in 2008, but I'm not sure (yet) why people are putting it head and shoulders above that game aside from the obvious differences between a 2013 game and a 2008 game. It's possible that will change as I finish it up though. wow now the shitstorm is coming.... ^^....i just had a suspicion and asked a question. because sadly forums are full of such hidden and false "advertisment". i never said its a bad game...just nothing special. and yeah thats my personal oppinion, but even if my oppinion would be something like "a great game" i would have asked the same question to him. and you all act now like he just said "i like this game" ....short reminder it was "easily the best game ever". and i just thought its suspicious....nothing more If it's mediocre then what other fps are you playing lately that are so good? CoD? Ken Levine games offer a level of maturity and sophistication that is severely lacking from the gaming industry as a whole. Gliding around a floating city that is bursting at the seams with creativity is a lot of fun on its own, but there is an attention to detail and very high quality writing that is rarely ever seen in this medium. yeah accuse me of being a cod kiddie or like im a guy who doesnt know shit about shooters....very nice of you....well lately im not playing any shooters at least i only give em a try for 1-2 hours. and because of what? because most of them are mediocre stuff....nothing really special like the half-life series or the first bioshock (because the first was awesome and something "new"). the only shooter who really got me latley was far cry 3 (but only the story line, everything around that was boring shit)...i hope that was enough random information for you....
The first Bioshock actually wasn't something "new", it was a spiritual successor to System Shock 2, also made by Ken Levine. Sorry for the aggressive tone of my original post, but I fail to see how some people are finding Bioshock Infinite only mediocre. It has clearly been crafted with an insane amount of care and intelligence, especially for an fps. But, to each his own I guess. I personally wish we had more games out there that go above and beyond the call of duty (pun intended hehe).
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On March 28 2013 01:04 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 00:42 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 28 2013 00:30 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:23 ZasZ. wrote:On March 28 2013 00:00 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 23:48 Saryph wrote:On March 27 2013 22:47 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 20:56 Saryph wrote:
easily the best game I've ever played] you are one of those hundreds who get paid for posts like this??( not trolling, its serious business) Clearly I couldn't have just finished the game and really enjoyed it, as it offers something I have not experienced before. Clearly all of the people giving it such great reviews are all paid. you are one of those hundreds who love complaining about how every new game sucks?? (not trolling, its serious business) seriously calling a mediocre shooter the best game ever just sounded suspicious....i just asked a question no reason to be mad , son Mediocre is your opinion, not objective fact. By insinuating he was somehow paid to put his opinion on TeamLiquid, you're basically saying you think his opinion is wrong and no honest person could possibly have it. That's probably why he is "mad, son," even though his response is just as hostile as your original post, which just makes you a U MAD BRO troll. There was no point to your original post other than to rile him up. If you don't like the game, give us something more than "YOU LIKED IT? LOLOL" in subtle troll-speak. On-topic: I'm only about 2 hours in, but enjoying it so far. Reminds me of the fun I had playing the original Bioshock in 2008, but I'm not sure (yet) why people are putting it head and shoulders above that game aside from the obvious differences between a 2013 game and a 2008 game. It's possible that will change as I finish it up though. wow now the shitstorm is coming.... ^^....i just had a suspicion and asked a question. because sadly forums are full of such hidden and false "advertisment". i never said its a bad game...just nothing special. and yeah thats my personal oppinion, but even if my oppinion would be something like "a great game" i would have asked the same question to him. and you all act now like he just said "i like this game" ....short reminder it was "easily the best game ever". and i just thought its suspicious....nothing more If it's mediocre then what other fps are you playing lately that are so good? CoD? Ken Levine games offer a level of maturity and sophistication that is severely lacking from the gaming industry as a whole. Gliding around a floating city that is bursting at the seams with creativity is a lot of fun on its own, but there is an attention to detail and very high quality writing that is rarely ever seen in this medium. yeah accuse me of being a cod kiddie or like im a guy who doesnt know shit about shooters....very nice of you....well lately im not playing any shooters at least i only give em a try for 1-2 hours. and because of what? because most of them are mediocre stuff....nothing really special like the half-life series or the first bioshock (because the first was awesome and something "new"). the only shooter who really got me latley was far cry 3 (but only the story line, everything around that was boring shit)...i hope that was enough random information for you.... The first Bioshock actually wasn't something "new", it was a spiritual successor to System Shock 2, also made by Ken Levine. Sorry for the aggressive tone of my original post, but I fail to see how some people are finding Bioshock Infinite only mediocre. It has clearly been crafted with an insane amount of care and intelligence, especially for an fps. But, to each his own I guess. I personally wish we had more games out there that go above and beyond the call of duty (pun intended hehe).
thats why i said " "new" " instead of just "new"
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On March 28 2013 01:04 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 00:42 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 28 2013 00:30 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:23 ZasZ. wrote:On March 28 2013 00:00 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 23:48 Saryph wrote:On March 27 2013 22:47 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 20:56 Saryph wrote:
easily the best game I've ever played] you are one of those hundreds who get paid for posts like this??( not trolling, its serious business) Clearly I couldn't have just finished the game and really enjoyed it, as it offers something I have not experienced before. Clearly all of the people giving it such great reviews are all paid. you are one of those hundreds who love complaining about how every new game sucks?? (not trolling, its serious business) seriously calling a mediocre shooter the best game ever just sounded suspicious....i just asked a question no reason to be mad , son Mediocre is your opinion, not objective fact. By insinuating he was somehow paid to put his opinion on TeamLiquid, you're basically saying you think his opinion is wrong and no honest person could possibly have it. That's probably why he is "mad, son," even though his response is just as hostile as your original post, which just makes you a U MAD BRO troll. There was no point to your original post other than to rile him up. If you don't like the game, give us something more than "YOU LIKED IT? LOLOL" in subtle troll-speak. On-topic: I'm only about 2 hours in, but enjoying it so far. Reminds me of the fun I had playing the original Bioshock in 2008, but I'm not sure (yet) why people are putting it head and shoulders above that game aside from the obvious differences between a 2013 game and a 2008 game. It's possible that will change as I finish it up though. wow now the shitstorm is coming.... ^^....i just had a suspicion and asked a question. because sadly forums are full of such hidden and false "advertisment". i never said its a bad game...just nothing special. and yeah thats my personal oppinion, but even if my oppinion would be something like "a great game" i would have asked the same question to him. and you all act now like he just said "i like this game" ....short reminder it was "easily the best game ever". and i just thought its suspicious....nothing more If it's mediocre then what other fps are you playing lately that are so good? CoD? Ken Levine games offer a level of maturity and sophistication that is severely lacking from the gaming industry as a whole. Gliding around a floating city that is bursting at the seams with creativity is a lot of fun on its own, but there is an attention to detail and very high quality writing that is rarely ever seen in this medium. yeah accuse me of being a cod kiddie or like im a guy who doesnt know shit about shooters....very nice of you....well lately im not playing any shooters at least i only give em a try for 1-2 hours. and because of what? because most of them are mediocre stuff....nothing really special like the half-life series or the first bioshock (because the first was awesome and something "new"). the only shooter who really got me latley was far cry 3 (but only the story line, everything around that was boring shit)...i hope that was enough random information for you.... The first Bioshock actually wasn't something "new", it was a spiritual successor to System Shock 2, also made by Ken Levine. Sorry for the aggressive tone of my original post, but I fail to see how some people are finding Bioshock Infinite only mediocre. It has clearly been crafted with an insane amount of care and intelligence, especially for an fps. But, to each his own I guess. I personally wish we had more games out there that go above and beyond the call of duty (pun intended hehe).
I thought the story was cliche and predictable, literally 30 minutes into the game I knew what was going on. But, the way the setting of the story was really fleshed out and the first part of the game where you enter Columbia and then you win the lotto, that part was amazing I gave a huge WTF to that, it's my most memorable moment for the entire thing. I wish the setting of Dishonored had been as well fleshed as BI's, that was the biggest disappointment of that game for me. As far as game play, I didn't really feel like it was that amazing, but it was simple and fun. I felt like three or four of the powers were really useless, and eventually I just zapped everything and won in hard mode with the 50% refill gear pretty damn easily. I don't feel like the game deserves the 10/10s it's been getting on every review site but I felt like it was a solid 8/10 and easily pushing a 9/10 just for setting alone. So yeah I don't agree with mediocre, it was definitely a good game, it just wasn't perfect. I wish there had been some more... original powers and that the story wasn't so immediately obviousl
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i wanna play the pc version with a gamepad to be able to use my huge tv from the sofa, but i'm really bad at aiming with gamepad. so i wonder, is there some sort of aim assist option available for gamepad controls?
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On March 28 2013 03:06 Corvi wrote:
i wanna play the pc version with a gamepad to be able to use my huge tv from the sofa, but i'm really bad at aiming with gamepad. so i wonder, is there some sort of aim assist option available for gamepad controls?
Pretty sure I saw an aim assist option somewhere in the menu.
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There seem to be a lot of ways to abuse the game. Winter shield is obviously broken, as long as there's a zipline nearby there's no reason to lose or even take damage.
You can do pure melee too, upgrading charge, maxing shields, and using the gear that raises melee damage a lot. I've been hacking away at everyone, including bosses, on hard, without taking damage...
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On March 28 2013 03:06 Corvi wrote:
i wanna play the pc version with a gamepad to be able to use my huge tv from the sofa, but i'm really bad at aiming with gamepad. so i wonder, is there some sort of aim assist option available for gamepad controls?
\Bioshock Infinite\Engine\Config\BaseInput is where you will find the aim assist setting. It is near the end of the file and by default is on.
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On March 28 2013 02:38 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 01:04 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 28 2013 00:42 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 28 2013 00:30 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:23 ZasZ. wrote:On March 28 2013 00:00 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 23:48 Saryph wrote:On March 27 2013 22:47 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 20:56 Saryph wrote:
easily the best game I've ever played] you are one of those hundreds who get paid for posts like this??( not trolling, its serious business) Clearly I couldn't have just finished the game and really enjoyed it, as it offers something I have not experienced before. Clearly all of the people giving it such great reviews are all paid. you are one of those hundreds who love complaining about how every new game sucks?? (not trolling, its serious business) seriously calling a mediocre shooter the best game ever just sounded suspicious....i just asked a question no reason to be mad , son Mediocre is your opinion, not objective fact. By insinuating he was somehow paid to put his opinion on TeamLiquid, you're basically saying you think his opinion is wrong and no honest person could possibly have it. That's probably why he is "mad, son," even though his response is just as hostile as your original post, which just makes you a U MAD BRO troll. There was no point to your original post other than to rile him up. If you don't like the game, give us something more than "YOU LIKED IT? LOLOL" in subtle troll-speak. On-topic: I'm only about 2 hours in, but enjoying it so far. Reminds me of the fun I had playing the original Bioshock in 2008, but I'm not sure (yet) why people are putting it head and shoulders above that game aside from the obvious differences between a 2013 game and a 2008 game. It's possible that will change as I finish it up though. wow now the shitstorm is coming.... ^^....i just had a suspicion and asked a question. because sadly forums are full of such hidden and false "advertisment". i never said its a bad game...just nothing special. and yeah thats my personal oppinion, but even if my oppinion would be something like "a great game" i would have asked the same question to him. and you all act now like he just said "i like this game" ....short reminder it was "easily the best game ever". and i just thought its suspicious....nothing more If it's mediocre then what other fps are you playing lately that are so good? CoD? Ken Levine games offer a level of maturity and sophistication that is severely lacking from the gaming industry as a whole. Gliding around a floating city that is bursting at the seams with creativity is a lot of fun on its own, but there is an attention to detail and very high quality writing that is rarely ever seen in this medium. yeah accuse me of being a cod kiddie or like im a guy who doesnt know shit about shooters....very nice of you....well lately im not playing any shooters at least i only give em a try for 1-2 hours. and because of what? because most of them are mediocre stuff....nothing really special like the half-life series or the first bioshock (because the first was awesome and something "new"). the only shooter who really got me latley was far cry 3 (but only the story line, everything around that was boring shit)...i hope that was enough random information for you.... The first Bioshock actually wasn't something "new", it was a spiritual successor to System Shock 2, also made by Ken Levine. Sorry for the aggressive tone of my original post, but I fail to see how some people are finding Bioshock Infinite only mediocre. It has clearly been crafted with an insane amount of care and intelligence, especially for an fps. But, to each his own I guess. I personally wish we had more games out there that go above and beyond the call of duty (pun intended hehe). I thought the story was cliche and predictable, literally 30 minutes into the game I knew what was going on. But, the way the setting of the story was really fleshed out and the first part of the game where you enter Columbia and then you win the lotto, that part was amazing I gave a huge WTF to that, it's my most memorable moment for the entire thing. I wish the setting of Dishonored had been as well fleshed as BI's, that was the biggest disappointment of that game for me. As far as game play, I didn't really feel like it was that amazing, but it was simple and fun. I felt like three or four of the powers were really useless, and eventually I just zapped everything and won in hard mode with the 50% refill gear pretty damn easily. I don't feel like the game deserves the 10/10s it's been getting on every review site but I felt like it was a solid 8/10 and easily pushing a 9/10 just for setting alone. So yeah I don't agree with mediocre, it was definitely a good game, it just wasn't perfect. I wish there had been some more... original powers and that the story wasn't so immediately obviousl
Sorry to say it like this, but you could not be more full of crap...
There is no way you could have known the ending without playing completely the game first.
+ Show Spoiler +You can obviously predict that Comstock is going to die, as Andrew Ryan did in the first Bioshock, but what happened after that, there is absolutely a 0% chance that you would remotely imagine what was going to happen.
30 minutes into the game, the game has just ramped up after you pick #77 and you have finished your first fight... There is no story yet and you are not even close to monument island yet... How the hell can you say that you knew what was going on in the game? Nothing had absolutely occurred with in the first 30 minutes of the game...
Within 30 minutes of the game you have not even seen the twins the second time, so how the hell can you seriously say that you could see what was going on!?!?!?
I suggest you seriously stfu and think things thoroughly before speaking about stuff you clearly have no idea about, but want to make it seem as if you were that guy who knows it all...
Based on your comment I would be surprised if you have even played the game yet...
TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT PLAYED BIOSHOCK INFINITE AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING IT:
DOOOOOOO ITTTTTTT!!!! IT IS WORTH THE MONEY!
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On March 28 2013 03:21 carloselcoco wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 02:38 Kaal wrote:On March 28 2013 01:04 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 28 2013 00:42 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:34 AnomalySC2 wrote:On March 28 2013 00:30 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 28 2013 00:23 ZasZ. wrote:On March 28 2013 00:00 MotherOfRunes wrote:On March 27 2013 23:48 Saryph wrote:On March 27 2013 22:47 MotherOfRunes wrote:
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you are one of those hundreds who get paid for posts like this??( not trolling, its serious business)
Clearly I couldn't have just finished the game and really enjoyed it, as it offers something I have not experienced before. Clearly all of the people giving it such great reviews are all paid. you are one of those hundreds who love complaining about how every new game sucks?? (not trolling, its serious business) seriously calling a mediocre shooter the best game ever just sounded suspicious....i just asked a question no reason to be mad , son Mediocre is your opinion, not objective fact. By insinuating he was somehow paid to put his opinion on TeamLiquid, you're basically saying you think his opinion is wrong and no honest person could possibly have it. That's probably why he is "mad, son," even though his response is just as hostile as your original post, which just makes you a U MAD BRO troll. There was no point to your original post other than to rile him up. If you don't like the game, give us something more than "YOU LIKED IT? LOLOL" in subtle troll-speak. On-topic: I'm only about 2 hours in, but enjoying it so far. Reminds me of the fun I had playing the original Bioshock in 2008, but I'm not sure (yet) why people are putting it head and shoulders above that game aside from the obvious differences between a 2013 game and a 2008 game. It's possible that will change as I finish it up though. wow now the shitstorm is coming.... ^^....i just had a suspicion and asked a question. because sadly forums are full of such hidden and false "advertisment". i never said its a bad game...just nothing special. and yeah thats my personal oppinion, but even if my oppinion would be something like "a great game" i would have asked the same question to him. and you all act now like he just said "i like this game" ....short reminder it was "easily the best game ever". and i just thought its suspicious....nothing more If it's mediocre then what other fps are you playing lately that are so good? CoD? Ken Levine games offer a level of maturity and sophistication that is severely lacking from the gaming industry as a whole. Gliding around a floating city that is bursting at the seams with creativity is a lot of fun on its own, but there is an attention to detail and very high quality writing that is rarely ever seen in this medium. yeah accuse me of being a cod kiddie or like im a guy who doesnt know shit about shooters....very nice of you....well lately im not playing any shooters at least i only give em a try for 1-2 hours. and because of what? because most of them are mediocre stuff....nothing really special like the half-life series or the first bioshock (because the first was awesome and something "new"). the only shooter who really got me latley was far cry 3 (but only the story line, everything around that was boring shit)...i hope that was enough random information for you.... The first Bioshock actually wasn't something "new", it was a spiritual successor to System Shock 2, also made by Ken Levine. Sorry for the aggressive tone of my original post, but I fail to see how some people are finding Bioshock Infinite only mediocre. It has clearly been crafted with an insane amount of care and intelligence, especially for an fps. But, to each his own I guess. I personally wish we had more games out there that go above and beyond the call of duty (pun intended hehe). I thought the story was cliche and predictable, literally 30 minutes into the game I knew what was going on. But, the way the setting of the story was really fleshed out and the first part of the game where you enter Columbia and then you win the lotto, that part was amazing I gave a huge WTF to that, it's my most memorable moment for the entire thing. I wish the setting of Dishonored had been as well fleshed as BI's, that was the biggest disappointment of that game for me. As far as game play, I didn't really feel like it was that amazing, but it was simple and fun. I felt like three or four of the powers were really useless, and eventually I just zapped everything and won in hard mode with the 50% refill gear pretty damn easily. I don't feel like the game deserves the 10/10s it's been getting on every review site but I felt like it was a solid 8/10 and easily pushing a 9/10 just for setting alone. So yeah I don't agree with mediocre, it was definitely a good game, it just wasn't perfect. I wish there had been some more... original powers and that the story wasn't so immediately obviousl Sorry to say it like this, but you could not be more full of crap... There is no way you could have known the ending without playing completely the game first. + Show Spoiler +You can obviously predict that Comstock is going to die, as Andrew Ryan did in the first Bioshock, but what happened after that, there is absolutely a 0% chance that you would remotely imagine what was going to happen.
30 minutes into the game, the game has just ramped up after you pick #77 and you have finished your first fight... There is no story yet and you are not even close to monument island yet... How the hell can you say that you knew what was going on in the game? Nothing had absolutely occurred with in the first 30 minutes of the game...
Within 30 minutes of the game you have not even seen the twins the second time, so how the hell can you seriously say that you could see what was going on!?!?!? I suggest you seriously stfu and think things thoroughly before speaking about stuff you clearly have no idea about, but want to make it seem as if you were that guy who knows it all... Based on your comment I would be surprised if you have even played the game yet... TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT PLAYED BIOSHOCK INFINITE AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING IT: DOOOOOOO ITTTTTTT!!!! IT IS WORTH THE MONEY!
+ Show Spoiler +As soon as the game revealed it was about time manipulation and different worlds, about an hour in more like sorry I exaggerated, it was incredibly obvious that he was him and she was his daughter. It's the only possible thing that makes sense the way the narrative was, and frankly every time based thing does that ( LOL THEYLL NEVER EXPECT THIS TWIST GUYS.) I was absolutely sure when the guard called Elizabeth Anna that I was 10000% correct, which is about 1:15 into the game. Based on you comments I've come to the conclusion that you're a rabid fanboy who wants people to buy a 60$ game with ~8-10 hours of gameplay front to back. Good times.
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what the hell... dat ending, it blew my mind... big time
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THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING GOOD GO BUY IT AND PLAY IT NOW!!!!!!!
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Finished my first playthrough. Such a well-produced game. Can't wait to playthrough it again, only I'll be in less of a rush this time. First playthrough it's hard to not want to get to the next cutscene.
And the ending isn't a single twist that one can simply "figure out". There are the Lucete twins, the deformed pinky, what started everything in motion, the songbird, etc. Putting all these pieces together in a way that makes a straight narrative is what makes the ending great. You can't "predict" it, as most of these pieces are given to you as the game progresses, right up until the end. Even if you guess that + Show Spoiler +you're sort of the bad guy, and the girl is your daughter (which is easy to sort of figure, since that's kind of standard for Bioshock)
This isn't an indie-game. You don't get this level of quality-in-design from a single small studio. There was a lot of talent in the making of this game. It's blatantly obvious to most people who play it. Some will rag on superficial parameters, but these say nothing about the actual experience of playing the game, which is one of the most enjoyable I've had with any game.
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Not sure how far I am into the game, but I like the story so far and gameplay.
It's a bit too easy sadly (I'm on normal) and I find myself not finding much use in all the guns since I can just use the handbarrel and headshot people from 10 miles away.
I keep the Carabine for the feel of it, but yeah: no point in the other 6 guns sadly.
+ Show Spoiler +I like how Dewitt is so similar to the DimWit in those child propaganda stage show machines
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On March 28 2013 07:17 Torte de Lini wrote:Not sure how far I am into the game, but I like the story so far and gameplay. It's a bit too easy sadly (I'm on normal) and I find myself not finding much use in all the guns since I can just use the handbarrel and headshot people from 10 miles away. I keep the Carabine for the feel of it, but yeah: no point in the other 6 guns sadly.
+ Show Spoiler +I like how Dewitt is so similar to the DimWit in those child propaganda stage show machines
On harder difficulty sniper is the only way you can one shot some of the enemies, Heater works really well vs non humans, burst gun and repeater are great in the mid range. Everyone gets the feel that 6 of the guns are useless, but pretty much everyone is running through the game with different guns. the upgrades make the guns more than anything. they are all great at something.
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On March 28 2013 07:20 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 07:17 Torte de Lini wrote:Not sure how far I am into the game, but I like the story so far and gameplay. It's a bit too easy sadly (I'm on normal) and I find myself not finding much use in all the guns since I can just use the handbarrel and headshot people from 10 miles away. I keep the Carabine for the feel of it, but yeah: no point in the other 6 guns sadly.
+ Show Spoiler +I like how Dewitt is so similar to the DimWit in those child propaganda stage show machines On harder difficulty sniper is the only way you can one shot some of the enemies, Heater works really well vs non humans, burst gun and repeater are great in the mid range. Everyone gets the feel that 6 of the guns are useless, but pretty much everyone is running through the game with different guns. the upgrades make the guns more than anything. they are all great at something.
Yeah I've noticed this as well, especially on harder difficulties, the upgrades you choose REALLY affect how you perceive your combat options. The guns you upgrade end up feeling broken and the ones you don't end up feeling useless. I played on hard but had the same gun choice as Torte throughout most of the game (Hand Cannon was still one-shot-headshotting most normal enemies throughout, and did massive bodyshot damage to everyone else). Carbine felt like it was the second strongest to me from there, but when I upgraded Sniper near the end I saw the value in that as well.
That said, if/when I play it again, I'll definitely try to focus on some different weapons to see how it alters the experience. Maybe a bigger deal when it comes to different combat experience is which vigors you use/upgrade most frequently and how much usage you make of skyrails/tears. Hand Cannon / Sniper / Carbine headshotting everyone from far away has it's appeal, but I definitely enjoyed the few times I was forced to actually jump around constantly and change weapons on-the-fly from lack of ammo. More hectic, but when using the right vigors for the situation, just as effective.
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On March 28 2013 07:30 geno wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 07:20 PrinceXizor wrote:On March 28 2013 07:17 Torte de Lini wrote:Not sure how far I am into the game, but I like the story so far and gameplay. It's a bit too easy sadly (I'm on normal) and I find myself not finding much use in all the guns since I can just use the handbarrel and headshot people from 10 miles away. I keep the Carabine for the feel of it, but yeah: no point in the other 6 guns sadly.
+ Show Spoiler +I like how Dewitt is so similar to the DimWit in those child propaganda stage show machines On harder difficulty sniper is the only way you can one shot some of the enemies, Heater works really well vs non humans, burst gun and repeater are great in the mid range. Everyone gets the feel that 6 of the guns are useless, but pretty much everyone is running through the game with different guns. the upgrades make the guns more than anything. they are all great at something. Yeah I've noticed this as well, especially on harder difficulties, the upgrades you choose REALLY affect how you perceive your combat options. The guns you upgrade end up feeling broken and the ones you don't end up feeling useless. I played on hard but had the same gun choice as Torte throughout most of the game (Hand Cannon was still one-shot-headshotting most normal enemies throughout, and did massive bodyshot damage to everyone else). Carbine felt like it was the second strongest to me from there, but when I upgraded Sniper near the end I saw the value in that as well. That said, if/when I play it again, I'll definitely try to focus on some different weapons to see how it alters the experience. Maybe a bigger deal when it comes to different combat experience is which vigors you use/upgrade most frequently and how much usage you make of skyrails/tears. Hand Cannon / Sniper / Carbine headshotting everyone from far away has it's appeal, but I definitely enjoyed the few times I was forced to actually jump around constantly and change weapons on-the-fly from lack of ammo. More hectic, but when using the right vigors for the situation, just as effective.
go through the game again with Pistol + Burst Gun. Super fun way to play.
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The atmosphere is great in the game though it feels like I'm missing a lot of references to American history which kind of takes away from the experience to some degree and I've never been a huge fans of the "time elements" in these kinds of stories. It also did feel at times like the story and the gameplay was fighting each other at times, though this is common in most games. They ask you to get immersed in the story and beautiful environment only for the gameplay elements to take you out of it just so they are more fun (supposedly) to play and some of the guns was a bit lackluster. Still a strong 7/10 for me.
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I'm liking the game, but it feels so darn easy, even on hard. Could also do with less pointless slaughter of minor enemies to keep the atmosphere up better, but still. Good game, I'd say worth the price.
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Got the game on final preorder day because of the additional games they offered as preorder content.
I played through the game on hard and I guess combat was moderately alright. Struggled at the start but once i got the hang of it and discarded the notion of ironsights alltogether it worked out.
I went with a full shield build, then started building on my hp. Spent most of my time with the more spammable vigours like the mustang aoe while having the ram charge as a close friend.
Went all out damage with the shotgun, carbine and other assorted weaponry because i thought some of the enemies didn't die fast enough to melee, and that coupled with the ram upgrades (temp invulnerability after charge, and elemental damage aoe during impact) and complemented that with "when struck in combat 70% of the time deal firedamage in aoe," "when jumping from skyline firedamage aoe." "Excessive death causes aoe stun" worked out alright.
Things went down relatively quick and abusing elizabeth temporary immunity when handing you items gets you out of tricky handyman situations. I haven't found a good way to take them out for a melee build, but kept the carbine and the rocket launcher as a close secondary weapon to supplement. As for upgrades i went damage on all the weapons and only upgraded capacity for carbine and the Vox machine gun with 20 rounds default. This worked out for me. Charge in. melee, and spam weapon into chest before jumping off or chargin back in for a shield refill.
I'll probably replay it again on 1999 mode, but the amount of replay value in the game seems limited. Mostly due to how choice seems to be relatively insignificant in the amount of impact it has. I think the atmosphere and story is great, but the ending seemed lacking. No final bossfight with something like the songbird, no alternative ending or morality exclusive levels based on some ingame mechanic.
Very great cinematic storytelling, but it lacked a good foil to play off of the two main characters. definitively made me think of triple A games as a bygone era. 10/10. Dare I say most pirated game 2013?
Look. If you have endured the hypetrain til now. Just watch it on youtube. The combat alone is not worth 60 bucks and there are tons of Lets players out there who want to cash in on adding their own commentary to the storyline.
If you are European or just exceedingly ignorant they might even enhance your experience in glorious 1080p as there are apparently TONS of references to american history in this game that will fly directly by you but might not be missed by someone like Jesse Cox.
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