NFL Season 2010 - Page 208

On January 12 2011 09:13 Shindou wrote:


Same thing can be said about Cowher. You take his away he's under .500 too.

On January 12 2011 09:15 Shindou wrote:


Steeler's werent consistently great either. I forget when the stretch was in the late 90's when the Steelers were absolutely terrible. Last or close to it 3-4 years straight. The giants have had 10 win seasons for the better part of Coughlin's stay, and if he coached there for the 15 years or whatever Cowher did at Pittsburgh, it would be right around the same thing.

On January 12 2011 05:51 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:


Oh I know, I just hate college football, so I like to discuss the players, but not the college plays, which doesn't really make sense. I just hate how simplistic the game is at the college level. What actually sparked that was thinking about Newton bowling over an MLB in college. I'd LOVE to see a QB put his shoulder down against Urlacher, Lewis, or Willis. They'd probably be out for the game, but this punk in college got run the fuck over. : (

I think that it's about damn time Rivera got his chance. He's strengthened two mediocre defenses, and turned them into top-end defenses. Moreover, he's shown versatility as a play caller, adapting to his personnel in both situations, shown by running both a 4-3 C2 scheme, and a 3-4 scheme. I think that overall, players respect him both for his coaching, and his experience as a former player. I think Rivera, and probably Fewell were the top choices as head coaches this season. Maybe Harbaugh, but time will tell what type of success he can have at the pro level.

On January 12 2011 09:44 Southlight wrote:
My, and Shindou's I'd assume, point is that Cowher is given a lot of Rose-petaled lenses because he went out as a Super Bowl winner, and most people conveniently forget that he was himself a playoff choker for many years and put out a consistently good but never over the hump team.

On January 12 2011 05:38 KOFgokuon wrote:
ok back to NFL
Ron Rivera just got hired as the head coach of the panthers
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6011884

Thoughts? He headed some solid defenses in Chicago and San Diego. I never really understood why the Bears let him go in 2007, but that Panthers team needs a LOT of work...

On January 12 2011 09:44 Southlight wrote:
The Steelers have been one of the most consistent franchises for a long time, even before Cowher came along. And after Cowher retired the wheels stayed greased. That's not to say Cowher isn't a good coach, but statistically (especially considering he basically had +4W every year) he isn't much better than some of the "not that great" coaches of this era, including Reid, Fischer, and, yes, Coughlin, all of whom have generally had good consistency with regards to putting out a high-quality team.

My, and Shindou's I'd assume, point is that Cowher is given a lot of Rose-petaled lenses because he went out as a Super Bowl winner, and most people conveniently forget that he was himself a playoff choker for many years and put out a consistently good but never over the hump team.

On January 12 2011 10:49 Shindou wrote:


Yeah, I will say for the MOST part, the Steelers have always been amazing. There were so many points in Cowher's career at Pittsburg people wanted him out, but the Rooney family stuck with him. It's the same thing with Reid, Fischer and the rest of these guys. They're all insanely talented at what they do and will win a (or more) superbowl eventually.

Wins and losses only tell part of the story for how good a coach is too. Look at what happened in Denver and Minnesota - there's so much that goes on off the field. Unless you're picking up Bellicheck none of these teams would improve remotely with a new coach. Living in the Philly/NY area all you hear about is calling for the coaches head. Morningweg n mcdermott called a solid game against the packers esp considering they had a rookie MLB calling defensive coverage, and Coughling Bellichek Cowher and Mike Ditka together wouldn't have stopped bradshaw from fumbling or Eli from throwing those picks.

All these guys win and there's a reason there's only a handful of coaches who have been around long enough to remember their names. You never wanna ruin a good thing and you gotta have patience in football. Season's only 16 games and with how long those 16 games run its a lot easier to remember the bad than the good

On January 12 2011 13:53 KOFgokuon wrote:
When your QB is kordell stewart, I think you're allowed some extra leeway to suck

On January 12 2011 13:10 Qatol wrote:

While this is true, Cowher never lost the locker room. A lot of people wanted him out when he had 3 consecutive losing seasons in the 90s, but he never lost the locker room. Coughlin has lost his locker room at least twice. When the players don't respect the coach and won't listen to the coach, you have a problem.

Reggie Wayne:

It's bull. It's bull, man. I give everything I've got no matter what. Every day, I give it everything. And one ball, that's all. I shouldn't have even suited up. I should have watched the game like everybody else. I was irrelevant.

On January 13 2011 02:19 Southlight wrote:
Yeah Reggie Wayne complaining about his QB is pretty funny.

On January 13 2011 02:20 Ferrose wrote:


I just posted it because I remember Lemons complaining like every week that Peyton never threw to Reggie

"Jets should send Sanchez to Iran so he can overthrow Ahmedinejad.''
-- @BigYankeeMike, a fan named Mike Brusco, Saturday night, at halftime of a game the Jets trailed 7-0, with Mark Sanchez having missed four open receivers with throws that would have been six feet over 7-foot-6 Yao Ming's head.

On January 13 2011 02:27 Southlight wrote:


Then to contribute to the quote train



:D 'Cause I know there's some Sanchize hatin' in here.