EPThave two full backup sets though i lost a lot of sheet stats
edit: lost a second jade doc after a 30 minute network outage while rifting sigh
on my last jade set now
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
have two full backup sets though i lost a lot of sheet stats edit: lost a second jade doc after a 30 minute network outage while rifting sigh on my last jade set now | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
Balls. | ||
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Amui
Canada10566 Posts
Just need to get better M6 pieces, and I could probably get somewhere in the 33-35 range. | ||
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Amui
Canada10566 Posts
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Duka08
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Edit: I'm also able to successfully log on / play with my laptop, but not my main PC. So it's a routing / proxy error, but it's isolated to only one computer on my network? lol gg...... Edit2: works fine this morning CRISIS AVERTED | ||
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
Like M6 DH just casts sentries and then waits for everything to melt, Leapquake Barb just jumps on monsters and WoW Wizard just presses 1 button like madman and runs around enemies in circles. In my eyes a lot of end game "combat" is just about running around monsters and waiting for them to die, rather than any kind of actual combat... I really dislike this trend. | ||
Valiver
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On August 23 2014 05:08 Valiver wrote: Well those kinda of builds have been around forever. The WoW builds are very similar to WW/CM builds, and remember WotB/WW and TR builds? It was only running circles around enemies. I don't think there's any more or less builds like that than there ever have been. I dont think you understand what Im talking about. WotB/WW build was actually fighting, running around in circles isnt the important part of my point. My point was that currently a lot of current endgame builds are just about casting X and then doing nothing, avoiding combat, waiting for mobs to die. Perma WotB or CM wizards never felt like that to me, those builds were about active engagement. So I really cant agree that those builds were around forever. IMHO all are RoS lvl 70 specific. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On August 23 2014 07:59 dAPhREAk wrote: blizzard did not create those builds; people did. so blizzard isnt forcing anyone, they are doing it themselves. if you dont like the builds, don't do the builds. Well WoW wizard is strongest Wiz build on live, and so far it seems that 2.1 will be another massive buff to Explossive Blast, doubling current DPS (while others builds are going to have 50% buff at best). M6 was buffed too. So while I can OFC agree that people are making these kind of builds, Blizzard is buffing them to be way supperior than everything else. Every Wiz build on current PTR deals barely 1/2 DPS of WoW EB. And WoW EB is like the dumbest Wiz build out there... So dont tell me its just "player's choice". Blizzard is also making choices, and Im just asking why they are buffing builds like M6 & WoW so much more than everything else... If they would buff builds not centered around rarest items, builds that acually promotes awarness and actual combat, targeting monsters etc. I would say no thing. | ||
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SyNc`
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On August 23 2014 08:16 Sek-Kuar wrote: Well WoW wizard is strongest Wiz build on live, and so far it seems that 2.1 will be another massive buff to Explossive Blast, doubling current DPS (while others builds are going to have 50% buff at best). M6 was buffed too. So while I can OFC agree that people are making these kind of builds, Blizzard is buffing them to be way supperior than everything else. Every Wiz build on current PTR deals barely 1/2 DPS of WoW EB. And WoW EB is like the dumbest Wiz build out there... So dont tell me its just "player's choice". Blizzard is also making choices, and Im just asking why they are buffing builds like M6 & WoW so much more than everything else... If they would buff builds not centered around rarest items, builds that acually promotes awarness and actual combat, targeting monsters etc. I would say no thing. WoW wiz is not the strongest wiz build on live. WoW is the most overrated item in the game on live, and any wiz that thinks they'll magically be able to do t6 if they got one is wrong. The damage just isn't there with WoW. You'd have to run a mm conflag/EB/vyr's setup but even then the majority of your damage is coming from mm or archon, and not explosive blast. Its extremely strong on 2.1 though, and was ridiculous with the taeguk gem, but since gems got nerfed hard, the hydra build with serpent sparker outperforms it due to better survivability. Regular mm conflag + vyr's archon is probably the strongest build on live but it still doesn't allow wizards to do t6 efficiently. | ||
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On August 24 2014 13:06 SyNc` wrote: WoW wiz is not the strongest wiz build on live. WoW is the most overrated item in the game on live, and any wiz that thinks they'll magically be able to do t6 if they got one is wrong. The damage just isn't there with WoW. You'd have to run a mm conflag/EB/vyr's setup but even then the majority of your damage is coming from mm or archon, and not explosive blast. Its extremely strong on 2.1 though, and was ridiculous with the taeguk gem, but since gems got nerfed hard, the hydra build with serpent sparker outperforms it due to better survivability. Regular mm conflag + vyr's archon is probably the strongest build on live but it still doesn't allow wizards to do t6 efficiently. I dont agree. Im in europe so my pings on PTR are around 200+ so I cant really test everything properly, but playing around with WoW in 2.1 you can go up to 4000% weapon dmg / sec. OFC while sacrificing some survivability, but not really all that much. You can for sure stay at 3000%+ weap DPS while maintaining most of other builds survivability (with more free slots for defensive stats). AT, desintegrate and similar builds get nowhere near close to that dmg output. At best you get to 2000% weap DPS with maximum charge, with forced immobility and much lower kill rates. Archon is like the only skill that received no buff (apart from CC), so now DMG in archon form is lower that with regular skills (unless you manage to stack decent kill count). And MM conflag? Hard to say if it was buffed or nerfed, depends on situation I guess - buffed vs white mobs - but there is still no way one can get close to DMG of WoW builds even with how strong new hydra is. I havent really tested MM conflag build on PTR due to my latency, but judging from skill stats I really cant imagine it getting much over 2500% weap DPS... | ||
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SyNc`
333 Posts
On August 24 2014 22:17 Sek-Kuar wrote: I dont agree. Im in europe so my pings on PTR are around 200+ so I cant really test everything properly, but playing around with WoW in 2.1 you can go up to 4000% weapon dmg / sec. OFC while sacrificing some survivability, but not really all that much. You can for sure stay at 3000%+ weap DPS while maintaining most of other builds survivability (with more free slots for defensive stats). AT, desintegrate and similar builds get nowhere near close to that dmg output. At best you get to 2000% weap DPS with maximum charge, with forced immobility and much lower kill rates. Archon is like the only skill that received no buff (apart from CC), so now DMG in archon form is lower that with regular skills (unless you manage to stack decent kill count). And MM conflag? Hard to say if it was buffed or nerfed, depends on situation I guess - buffed vs white mobs - but there is still no way one can get close to DMG of WoW builds even with how strong new hydra is. I havent really tested MM conflag build on PTR due to my latency, but judging from skill stats I really cant imagine it getting much over 2500% weap DPS... You're right about 2.1 but I was just saying how WoW is not that great on live. With the new 6p firebirds bonus it is extremely strong but I was just referring to your point about WoW wiz being the strongest live wizard build. I have a pretty good WoW but running the build just doesn't seem to do as much damage as mm conflag with archon (on live, not 2.1). | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
 But I found this great moonlight ward... But.... TT | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Cascade
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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andrewlt
United States7699 Posts
On August 23 2014 07:59 dAPhREAk wrote: blizzard did not create those builds; people did. so blizzard isnt forcing anyone, they are doing it themselves. if you dont like the builds, don't do the builds. Blizzard pushed people into those builds by their monster design. The game's difficulty centers around affix spam and cc spam. Act 5 monsters have a full complement of stuns, knockbacks, charges and all sorts of crap going on. Even on lower difficulty levels where death is not much of a threat, you will be cc'd so much that melee and channeling skills are a poor option. Your dps will just get interrupted so much. It just stands to reason that the most efficient forms of dps in such an environment are the summon pets + run around in circles and the dot everything + run around in circles builds. Any form of dps that can continue doing damage while you are frozen/chilled/slowed/feared/immobilized/stunned/charged/knocked back/knocked up/jailed/walled/frozen pulsed/thunderstormed/constantly running away from shit on ground will have higher effective dps even though your character sheet dps may suffer. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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