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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
 . Good thing about half my gear are rolled into lightning res. I could just reroll them when the patch hits. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On June 18 2014 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote: Is there a rough guestimate when Ladder season will go live? Like how soon after PTR does it usually take? i'm kind of doubting it will be this year they don't have a clue what they are doing with the legendary gems and it doesn't seem like ladders will launch until then | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
opening once before now is equivalent to joining 5 rifts with the new system. so unless the expected frequency with which it was you to open in RiF was lower than 1 out of 5 runs, it will cost you less than before. the new system also means that there is no more discussion about who reopens, low chars are no longer disadvantaged in "lowest" RiFs, players with slow hdds are no longer disadvantaged in "last" RiFs and so on. it also means a large buff to solo-rifting since you no longer burn through your keystones more quickly compared to party rifts. overall, it means that solo rifting will be the better option compared to incompetent parties. which is not necessarily the case atm. so overall, i like this change. | ||
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Sek-Kuar
Czech Republic593 Posts
On June 18 2014 23:40 Black Gun wrote: actually this is in no way a nerf to RiF for most people. opening once before now is equivalent to joining 5 rifts with the new system. so unless the expected frequency with which it was you to open in RiF was lower than 1 out of 5 runs, it will cost you less than before. the new system also means that there is no more discussion about who reopens, low chars are no longer disadvantaged in "lowest" RiFs, players with slow hdds are no longer disadvantaged in "last" RiFs and so on. it also means a large buff to solo-rifting since you no longer burn through your keystones more quickly compared to party rifts. overall, it means that solo rifting will be the better option compared to incompetent parties. which is not necessarily the case atm. so overall, i like this change. You do realize that literally THE ONLY reason why RIF exists is so that runners can just run rifts and dont need to bother getting fragments? The fact that people can use RIF to get shards is nothing but side effect. Attraction needed for rifters to get what they want - and in 2.1 its going to be removed. R.I.P. RIF. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22551 Posts
On June 19 2014 01:26 Sek-Kuar wrote: You do realize that literally THE ONLY reason why RIF exists is so that runners can just run rifts and dont need to bother getting fragments? The fact that people can use RIF to get shards is nothing but side effect. Attraction needed for rifters to get what they want - and in 2.1 its going to be removed. R.I.P. RIF. unless I misunderstood it was normal for one of the 4 who came in for the Guardian to open a new rift before leaving. So instead of a 25% chance to spend 5 shards you have a 100% chance to spend 1 shard. Looks like a net positive to me. | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On June 19 2014 01:35 Gorsameth wrote: unless I misunderstood it was normal for one of the 4 who came in for the Guardian to open a new rift before leaving. So instead of a 25% chance to spend 5 shards you have a 100% chance to spend 1 shard. Looks like a net positive to me. But again, the point was for the person actually running the rifts and inviting people to not ever have to spend any shards themselves. There is no advantage for anyone to actually solo run the rifts and then invite a bunch of other people to the rift guardian anymore. It just makes them take longer to finish the rift. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22551 Posts
On June 19 2014 01:47 Valiver wrote: But again, the point was for the person actually running the rifts and inviting people to not ever have to spend any shards themselves. There is no advantage for anyone to actually solo run the rifts and then invite a bunch of other people to the rift guardian anymore. It just makes them take longer to finish the rift. Ah yeah from that side. woops your right ^^ | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On June 19 2014 01:26 Sek-Kuar wrote: You do realize that literally THE ONLY reason why RIF exists is so that runners can just run rifts and dont need to bother getting fragments? The fact that people can use RIF to get shards is nothing but side effect. Attraction needed for rifters to get what they want - and in 2.1 its going to be removed. R.I.P. RIF. While you're correct, I really don't think a majority of former runners are going to be upset that you can now do five for the price of one. RIF may become quieter because the incentive for runners to invite people is obviously gone, but now it's just a generosity thing. I'll probably still invite people @RG when I run even though there's LITERALLY no reason to do so, other than just getting some folks some shards. I don't mind, doesn't hurt the runner in any way. The old idea of RIF is dead, and runners getting free rifts is dead, which is unfortunate. But rifts are so cheap now, I think it makes up for it. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 19 2014 01:47 Valiver wrote: But again, the point was for the person actually running the rifts and inviting people to not ever have to spend any shards themselves. There is no advantage for anyone to actually solo run the rifts and then invite a bunch of other people to the rift guardian anymore. It just makes them take longer to finish the rift. the runner had to open the first rift by himself. so to break even, each session of rifting had to consist of at least 5 rifts in a row. which kinda sucked. you are right in some other sense however: long rifting sessions will take the runner more keystones and there is no more incentive to invite random people to the rift boss. so solo-rifting will continue, but the actual rift it forward concept might no longer hold. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
If there is incentive to run those rifts in groups, we might see a new community where runners run the rifts solo, and then invite people for the RG with the expectation that those people will stay in the party for the Tiered rift run. The incentive for runners will shift from free fragments for help clearing the tiered rifts. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On June 19 2014 03:27 Terranasaur wrote: We are overlooking the mechanics around Greater Rift Keys. If there is incentive to run those rifts in groups, we might see a new community where runners run the rifts solo, and then invite people for the RG with the expectation that those people will stay in the party for the Tiered rift run. The incentive for runners will shift from free fragments for help clearing the tiered rifts. we know that greater rifts can't have you TP on flags so i doubt this will work out | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On June 19 2014 03:33 Frolossus wrote: we know that greater rifts can't have you TP on flags so i doubt this will work out Right. But you TP to the runner in the regular rift, kill the RG, and if greater keys drop, you all run the greater rift together. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 19 2014 04:11 Terranasaur wrote: Right. But you TP to the runner in the regular rift, kill the RG, and if greater keys drop, you all run the greater rift together. but didnt they state that entering a greater rift will require a greater riftkey from everyone? and also that the droprates for greater riftkeys will be below 100%? so say the droprate is 50% on t6. then the probability that all 4 players get the greater riftkey is 0.5^4 = 0.0625 = 6.25%. in other words: a waste of time. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Note if you plan on playing more than one category, choose the one that best fits. Obviously stuff will change from now until 2.1, but it'd be nice to get an idea. Poll: What will you be doing? Softcore: Non-ladder Casual (7) Softcore: Ladder Casual (7) Softcore: Lladder Competitive (2) Softcore: Non-ladder Competitive (1) Hardcore: Ladder Casual (1) Hardcore: Ladder Competitive (1) Hardcore: Non-ladder Casual (0) Hardcore: Non-ladder Competitive (0) 19 total votes Your vote: What will you be doing? (Vote): Softcore: Non-ladder Casual Also don't forget to try and find a mainstat/CC/CD/Socket Ammy, a RoRG with mainstat CC or CD, AS and a socket, and probably a SoJ with a socket for upcoming legendary gems. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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