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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 02 2014 16:40 GMT
#17681
On June 03 2014 01:35 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 20:12 Gorsameth wrote:
On June 02 2014 20:09 19Meavis93 wrote:
On June 02 2014 19:55 Gorsameth wrote:

how does that effect your game in any way, shape or form?


to bad some people felt different about this when it came to the auction house.

I think after the whole drop rate adjustments we can probably say that the game would have been fine with the AH if it had present day drop-rates.

Tho then you have the issue of people completing BiS sets to quickly and running out of things to do.

with the new buff rates, its too easy to complete BIS sets and run out of things to do. i got bored once i had complete vyrs/tal rasha set on my wiz, and akkhans on my crusader.

i still drop like shit, I'm only pl260 but i only have 1 piece vyr, 0 piece tal, 1 piece akkans. life is hard.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 02 2014 17:13 GMT
#17682
On June 03 2014 01:40 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 01:35 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 02 2014 20:12 Gorsameth wrote:
On June 02 2014 20:09 19Meavis93 wrote:
On June 02 2014 19:55 Gorsameth wrote:

how does that effect your game in any way, shape or form?


to bad some people felt different about this when it came to the auction house.

I think after the whole drop rate adjustments we can probably say that the game would have been fine with the AH if it had present day drop-rates.

Tho then you have the issue of people completing BiS sets to quickly and running out of things to do.

with the new buff rates, its too easy to complete BIS sets and run out of things to do. i got bored once i had complete vyrs/tal rasha set on my wiz, and akkhans on my crusader.

i still drop like shit, I'm only pl260 but i only have 1 piece vyr, 0 piece tal, 1 piece akkans. life is hard.

i play a lot. =)

i want the ladders to come so that i can switch to DH and not feel like i am wasting my time with a low level character.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 01:41:41
June 03 2014 01:38 GMT
#17683
EDIT: nevermind
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 06 2014 16:17 GMT
#17684
so if i have the furnace in my inventory as a DoT/jade doctor and i switch to it against a guardian, can i just tag them with the DoTs then switch back to sunkeeper + unkapian serpent and still get the health shred to tick?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 06 2014 21:06 GMT
#17685
How do you know the Furnace affix is a DoT? Can you tell when it's applied?
I'm under the impression that it's a proc and you keep using the Furnace until the guardian dies.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 23:32:21
June 06 2014 23:31 GMT
#17686
On June 07 2014 06:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
How do you know the Furnace affix is a DoT? Can you tell when it's applied?
I'm under the impression that it's a proc and you keep using the Furnace until the guardian dies.

i'm assuming that if you cast a DoT with furnace equipped it the effect gets snapshotted like strong arm damage or something if you don't reapply the DoT?

edit: the proc reapplies as DoTs continue to tick right? not on cast?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 09 2014 05:46 GMT
#17687
Probably had my best day ever today. FINALLY got my RROG and I found my first ever thunderfury.

Is it just me or is it hard to find a game in the clan channel these days? Did you guys all quit playing?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 09 2014 06:06 GMT
#17688
I may have accidentally been participating in the new D2 LOD ladder season.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 09 2014 06:26 GMT
#17689
game gets too repetitive and boring. i moved on to hardcore.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 09 2014 06:44 GMT
#17690
I have to agree with above. I love the game for what it is, don't get me wrong. I just have probably OD'd a bit trying to get myself into T4+ (comfortably, my toughness seems to be the weak link on my WD). Also semi-annoying is the pl180-pl300 without getting Tasker and Theo, ever, much to my ire.

I found myself at the point where I could reliably farm T2 with just the mouse (Hhhehhehe) with minor need for spirit walk in T3 (mostly reflect damage) and doing that religiously to farm out the T&T has been mind numbing. I would try the jade set but no RORG either =\ and 1 piece to go for the 6-bonus. Just need a little break I guess.

If anyone is playing d2 as well PM me or something to maybe meet up on there. 60 necro failing at nightmare Baal right now so I need to solve that somehow.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
June 09 2014 06:56 GMT
#17691
I'm starting to get a bit burned out as well. Ive got 4 classes that can do t4+, and the other 2 (monk/wd) I don't care much about. The end-game item hunt is just non-existent right now when all you can do is farm the same way over and over and hope you get exactly the right item you need.
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Emily27
Profile Joined June 2014
1 Post
June 09 2014 08:33 GMT
#17692
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 09 2014 13:42 GMT
#17693
Just out of curiosity, when you guys say "reliably farm" and "can do" torment X, what do you mean? For me it just doesn't seem profitable (in terms of legendaries per hour) to go above T1 with my wiz. I don't have BiS gear in every slot, but not that bad either, and I dont even feel close to do T2 within 15% of the time I do T1. I "can do", and in some sense of the word "reliably farm" T2, but it'd be a waste of time in terms of legs/hour, which is everything we care about right?

So just wondering what T you guys farm when you want to be efficient. Maybe it is different for different classes, or maybe my gear is worse that I think.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 09 2014 14:18 GMT
#17694
Relative to T1, T2 is basically also limited by how fast (slow) I can move and less so how much damage I do. For instance on T1/T2 I can cast Insect Swarm / Plague Rune on any white pack and it's basically dead or dying as I walk in whatever direction I'm heading. T3 is a few primary casts and relies more on the fetish sycophant damage than the lower difficulties, lots more stutter step casting additional toads with a similar effect but it's more effort. T4 needs both hands driving and full attention and is definitely a lot slower (thanks mostly to how pets take up space and some will tend to derp around) since toads is pretty weak damage and plague gets replaced with piranhas for the damage boost.

The idea behind it is "how much slower am I clearing compared to how much more MF I get" so for example you can use metric of time to clear a rift: If the time you take to clear an additional torment level is a higher percentage than the MF % gain based on the level of comparison it's not worth it. Too lazy to look at the actual numbers but if T1 is 100% MF and T2 is 115% MF but you take more than 15% longer (difference of .15 over the original value of 1.00) to clear just farm T1 instead of T2.

My experience is that four player games on a low torment level can make it rain legendary items compared to soloing higher difficulties but that's personal subjective anecdote and not evidence.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 09 2014 14:47 GMT
#17695
On June 09 2014 15:06 ObviousOne wrote:
I may have accidentally been participating in the new D2 LOD ladder season.

is it worth playing a new season if you aren't going to BOT? I'm not saying that as a troll, I love d2 but it seems like a ladder reset is rather meaningless at this state because BOTs are so prevalent. I truly wonder if I should play, and if I do, if I have to bot.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 09 2014 15:24 GMT
#17696
On June 09 2014 23:47 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 15:06 ObviousOne wrote:
I may have accidentally been participating in the new D2 LOD ladder season.

is it worth playing a new season if you aren't going to BOT? I'm not saying that as a troll, I love d2 but it seems like a ladder reset is rather meaningless at this state because BOTs are so prevalent. I truly wonder if I should play, and if I do, if I have to bot.

IDK I just used it as an arbitrary way to get back into the game for a bit. I did some single player last year mid-season but I like having access to some of the ladder-specific runewords. I'm sure there are quite a few bots running as far as winning the ladder rank is concerned, and there's the spam bots as usual trying to hock shit in public games making it somewhat hard to communicate with other players. I also felt that the normal-difficulty scene is pretty much a bunch of solo players looking to maybe get an XP boost in a multi-player party but the cooperation is loose and not very effective IMO.

I'm not sure on the state of drops, I'm sure the rates are the same as always so if the speed of normal farming wasn't your thing before it's probably going to feel like botting is still needed. For some casual playing I don't feel the need and if I want to muck around with fun gear and tweaked items there's always the single player mods to feel super OP.

To answer your question, probably not without D2JSP or spending some time in public games named "Pgems for HR" or whatever the conversion rates are these days (don't really know). It's the same old diablo with a smaller crowd, is all.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 10 2014 04:11 GMT
#17697
On June 09 2014 22:42 Cascade wrote:
Just out of curiosity, when you guys say "reliably farm" and "can do" torment X, what do you mean? For me it just doesn't seem profitable (in terms of legendaries per hour) to go above T1 with my wiz. I don't have BiS gear in every slot, but not that bad either, and I dont even feel close to do T2 within 15% of the time I do T1. I "can do", and in some sense of the word "reliably farm" T2, but it'd be a waste of time in terms of legs/hour, which is everything we care about right?

So just wondering what T you guys farm when you want to be efficient. Maybe it is different for different classes, or maybe my gear is worse that I think.

If you can farm an entire rift including guardian in under 15 minutes, under whatever difficulty. Also without dying more than like twice (in softcore).
liftlift > tsm
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 09:49:53
June 10 2014 09:49 GMT
#17698
On June 10 2014 13:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 22:42 Cascade wrote:
Just out of curiosity, when you guys say "reliably farm" and "can do" torment X, what do you mean? For me it just doesn't seem profitable (in terms of legendaries per hour) to go above T1 with my wiz. I don't have BiS gear in every slot, but not that bad either, and I dont even feel close to do T2 within 15% of the time I do T1. I "can do", and in some sense of the word "reliably farm" T2, but it'd be a waste of time in terms of legs/hour, which is everything we care about right?

So just wondering what T you guys farm when you want to be efficient. Maybe it is different for different classes, or maybe my gear is worse that I think.

If you can farm an entire rift including guardian in under 15 minutes, under whatever difficulty. Also without dying more than like twice (in softcore).

The actual number is whatever speed you can average on T1, +15% per torment level. Shards aside, this is the most efficient timewise for legendaries. Experience/gold is considerably more generous, and time can go up quite a bit.

10-15 is a good time to aim for while soloing, and in a group you should strive for sub-10min clears on the highest torment you can run without dying too much.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 10 2014 16:28 GMT
#17699
http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/27sil7/official_206_patchnotes_is_out/


patch is out!

crafting changes, increased set item drops and some monk love/changes.

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 10 2014 16:33 GMT
#17700
amazing patch
glad they fixed haunt/locust %
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