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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
April 02 2014 05:18 GMT
#16681
So how come noone has managed to pull off torment6? Is it maybe the case that we need to be a crazy level paragon character for it? Also is there a place where we can find the max stats of every slot someone could get? I have somewhat perfect rolls on str vit crit gearwise and i can only go upto torment3, torment6 is out of the question even players like alkaizer which is 600+ paragon and good geared gets 1 hit dead
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
April 02 2014 05:30 GMT
#16682
On April 02 2014 14:18 ffswowsucks wrote:
So how come noone has managed to pull off torment6? Is it maybe the case that we need to be a crazy level paragon character for it? Also is there a place where we can find the max stats of every slot someone could get? I have somewhat perfect rolls on str vit crit gearwise and i can only go upto torment3, torment6 is out of the question even players like alkaizer which is 600+ paragon and good geared gets 1 hit dead

Define managed to pull off, because Maltheal has been downed on hardcore t6. Why no one is farming it is because no one have enough damage and thoughness to make it worth it
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 05:32:06
April 02 2014 05:31 GMT
#16683
Its not worth it because you are slowed down so much and the loot there isn't better, its just more

but it is actually not more because it takes so long.
WriterXiao8~~
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 02 2014 06:44 GMT
#16684
On April 02 2014 14:31 Kipsate wrote:
Its not worth it because you are slowed down so much and the loot there isn't better, its just more

but it is actually not more because it takes so long.

This is the wisest statement haha
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 02 2014 07:31 GMT
#16685
just beat campaign and am trying out adventure mode. seems like a ton of fun mindless fun which is what diablo is all about. i hated how in vanilla d3 the story kept getting in the way.

for a casual player like me i'm really liking this new diablo 3. hated vanilla diablo 3, thought it was a steaming pile of garbage, and stopped playing it along with everyone else i knew, but this one is a lot of fun. too bad everyone else has already quit long ago. OH WELL. i see there are still people complaining, but this is a huge step in the right direction. confidence in blizzard RESTORED. you can see the drastic improvements once jay wilson got fired
Epx
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland209 Posts
April 02 2014 13:15 GMT
#16686
hey guys, can anyone recommend an active and good diablo3 scene site including builds and discussion forums? i've had some trouble to find one yet.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 02 2014 14:09 GMT
#16687
Diablofans seems oke
WriterXiao8~~
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
April 02 2014 17:10 GMT
#16688
Alright guys. I was a couple days late getting the expansion due to some bullshit called "important stuff at work I had to do"

Catch me up.

I finished the story and leveled to 70 on my DH. I've just been running bounties on normal trying to stockpile shards and caches. Is this what I should be doing? Should I try to leach some rifts on T1? My gear isn't awesome yet I'm around 350k DPS and 500k toughness.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22353 Posts
April 02 2014 17:14 GMT
#16689
On April 03 2014 02:10 Terranasaur wrote:
Alright guys. I was a couple days late getting the expansion due to some bullshit called "important stuff at work I had to do"

Catch me up.

I finished the story and leveled to 70 on my DH. I've just been running bounties on normal trying to stockpile shards and caches. Is this what I should be doing? Should I try to leach some rifts on T1? My gear isn't awesome yet I'm around 350k DPS and 500k toughness.

If you can do T1 quickly and safely you might aswell do that since you can get Torment Only Legendary drops. Otherwise your better off doing normal for loot until you can do T1.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 02 2014 17:17 GMT
#16690
On April 03 2014 02:10 Terranasaur wrote:
Alright guys. I was a couple days late getting the expansion due to some bullshit called "important stuff at work I had to do"

Catch me up.

I finished the story and leveled to 70 on my DH. I've just been running bounties on normal trying to stockpile shards and caches. Is this what I should be doing? Should I try to leach some rifts on T1? My gear isn't awesome yet I'm around 350k DPS and 500k toughness.

I'm in a similar situation and started running expert for double shards after getting around 300k dps, without trouble. Everything dies fast enough, including elites.
In addition I found a lot more mats, especially Death's Breaths, on expert than I did on normal. Gold is also going up very fast, and I'm getting paragons fast enough I often don't even assign one point before I level again.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 02 2014 17:32 GMT
#16691
On April 03 2014 02:10 Terranasaur wrote:
Alright guys. I was a couple days late getting the expansion due to some bullshit called "important stuff at work I had to do"

Catch me up.

I finished the story and leveled to 70 on my DH. I've just been running bounties on normal trying to stockpile shards and caches. Is this what I should be doing? Should I try to leach some rifts on T1? My gear isn't awesome yet I'm around 350k DPS and 500k toughness.


If you could do T1, do T1. Otherwise, drop to master/expert to get a few upgrades. Normal might be the fastest but it's also no fun.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 18:02:41
April 02 2014 17:56 GMT
#16692
Honestly normal is only fastest if you're 4-man cache farming (which boosts the HP values on things and slows your kill speed by virtue of having 4 people in the game) or are a fresh 70. For soloing, most people will probably very quickly have gear that vastly overkills solo normal (but not 4-man normal), meaning that hard will result in identical kill speed and better drops.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 02 2014 18:19 GMT
#16693
On April 02 2014 22:15 Epx wrote:
hey guys, can anyone recommend an active and good diablo3 scene site including builds and discussion forums? i've had some trouble to find one yet.

i like incgamers.

http://diablo.incgamers.com/
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 02 2014 18:57 GMT
#16694
On April 03 2014 02:56 TheYango wrote:
Honestly normal is only fastest if you're 4-man cache farming (which boosts the HP values on things and slows your kill speed by virtue of having 4 people in the game) or are a fresh 70. For soloing, most people will probably very quickly have gear that vastly overkills solo normal (but not 4-man normal), meaning that hard will result in identical kill speed and better drops.

Is there a drop difference between normal-master? I thought drop only changes when you reach t1+
liftlift > tsm
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 02 2014 19:01 GMT
#16695
On April 03 2014 03:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 02:56 TheYango wrote:
Honestly normal is only fastest if you're 4-man cache farming (which boosts the HP values on things and slows your kill speed by virtue of having 4 people in the game) or are a fresh 70. For soloing, most people will probably very quickly have gear that vastly overkills solo normal (but not 4-man normal), meaning that hard will result in identical kill speed and better drops.

Is there a drop difference between normal-master? I thought drop only changes when you reach t1+


Only gold drops are different, or additional blood shards in expert+
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 02 2014 19:07 GMT
#16696
As far as I know you only get magic find in torment and it increases for each additional tier of it. I've not seen anything about getting any for expert or masters or anything under torment. So far as gold and experience it's the following:
Normal: 100% Health, 100% Damage, 0% extra gold bonus, 0% extra XP bonus
Hard: 200% Health, 130% Damage, 75% extra gold bonus, 75% extra XP bonus
Expert: 320% Health, 189% Damage, 100% extra gold bonus, 100% extra XP bonus
Master: 512% Health, 273% Damage, 200% extra gold bonus, 200% extra XP bonus
Other than that the quality and quantity of legendary drops should be equal all throughout normal-masters.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
April 02 2014 20:57 GMT
#16697
Yeah I definitely don't think anything sub torment and above normal is worth it for cache runs. An extra 1 or 2 blood shards per bounty is pretty meaningless when you can just get ~50 a pop spamming rifts.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 02 2014 22:42 GMT
#16698
On April 03 2014 02:10 Terranasaur wrote:
Alright guys. I was a couple days late getting the expansion due to some bullshit called "important stuff at work I had to do"

Catch me up.

I finished the story and leveled to 70 on my DH. I've just been running bounties on normal trying to stockpile shards and caches. Is this what I should be doing? Should I try to leach some rifts on T1? My gear isn't awesome yet I'm around 350k DPS and 500k toughness.


You can do T1 on 70 with only 500k toughness?
My wizard has 12mil toughness (560k HP and a ton of resists) and still has to be careful around certain elites. (mostly Hordes with just the wrong combo of suffixes like Mortar or Arcane)

I went through Expert first after I hit 70 (killed Malthael on that, him and The Ram were impossible on anything higher), then climbed to Master and eventually Torment after I noticed I was killing Master trash pretty quickly.
My wizard deals around 450k DPS with some % bonus and trash mobs die reasonably fast and elites vary.
Some are really easy but there are a few around that can still put on the hurt quite fast.
Some of the new Act V monsters (Winged Assassins and Enraged Phantasms stand out for me) are absolutely lethal with the wrong suffixes.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 02 2014 23:18 GMT
#16699
350k dps 500k or 5 mil toughness cause 500k seems fairly unlikely.

Either way with 5 mill you will be absolutely fine on T1, with 350k dps it might be a tad slow though (do you run Steady Aim?thats 20% extra sheet dps that you won''t alwys have)
WriterXiao8~~
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 23:24:55
April 02 2014 23:23 GMT
#16700
Tiered rifts coming:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12373497336?page=1#4

They are supposed to get harder each round until you can't complete it anymore, I wonder what they mean. More dense so it's harder to complete in the timeframe or more hp/more damage mobs making it dangerous for HC players to compete?
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