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On March 22 2013 16:16 Cascade wrote:
I don't think pickup is very valuable for non-bots. I have picked up around 30M gold, while I have sold items for many hundreds of M. So around 10% of your income is from gold on the ground. Ask yourself this: if you just run straight through you will pick up some extra gold with pickup radius. How long will you have to play before you get back the extra money you spent on getting pickup on your gear?
From that you arrive at the conclusion that it can be useful for low-level gear to get some pickup (say going up from 500k to 1M), as you will get the money back pretty fast, but spending an extra 10M wil not pay back until quite a bit later.
I have a 86 paragon, 17 paragon, and 7 paragon and usually had at least 7 pickup on all of them, and thru my gametime have picked up over 150m gold, so it isn't that insignificant. I'm pretty sure I'm not a bot so that number seemed pretty cool to me! But actual players will have innate gold find from paragon levels they don't need the gold find, just the pickup. I spent a few extra M to get the pickup on my inna helm and think it was worth it just for the QoL (quality of life) of not feeling the need to run back and pickup that pile of gold. 5k gold piles add up eventually.
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I know they have already ruled out the possibility of a ladder reset but considering the issues the game has had so far, I think there are a load of good reasons for a ladder reset...
1: The game is much better now than it was at release, all those people who played it a bit and stopped because it was pretty boring to grind without any progress from Paragon could start again. (I definitely would)
2: Some of the hype has calmed down, maybe this would prevent the droves of gold farming devaluing the price of gold and reducing the current saturation.
3: A chance for players who bought the game after release to not be bottom feeders
Pointless discussing it really because I dont think Bliz will do it, it just confuses me as imo it makes perfect sense.
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On March 22 2013 23:56 Shottaz wrote:
I know they have already ruled out the possibility of a ladder reset but considering the issues the game has had so far, I think there are a load of good reasons for a ladder reset...
1: The game is much better now than it was at release, all those people who played it a bit and stopped because it was pretty boring to grind without any progress from Paragon could start again. (I definitely would)
2: Some of the hype has calmed down, maybe this would prevent the droves of gold farming devaluing the price of gold and reducing the current saturation.
3: A chance for players who bought the game after release to not be bottom feeders
Pointless discussing it really because I dont think Bliz will do it, it just confuses me as imo it makes perfect sense.
What ladder are you talking about?
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On March 22 2013 23:56 Shottaz wrote:
I know they have already ruled out the possibility of a ladder reset but considering the issues the game has had so far, I think there are a load of good reasons for a ladder reset...
1: The game is much better now than it was at release, all those people who played it a bit and stopped because it was pretty boring to grind without any progress from Paragon could start again. (I definitely would)
2: Some of the hype has calmed down, maybe this would prevent the droves of gold farming devaluing the price of gold and reducing the current saturation.
3: A chance for players who bought the game after release to not be bottom feeders
Pointless discussing it really because I dont think Bliz will do it, it just confuses me as imo it makes perfect sense.
And there's a single reason which makes such a suggestion completely stupid: People have paid money for items.
You delete those items, you get lawsuits.
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On March 23 2013 03:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 23:56 Shottaz wrote:
I know they have already ruled out the possibility of a ladder reset but considering the issues the game has had so far, I think there are a load of good reasons for a ladder reset...
1: The game is much better now than it was at release, all those people who played it a bit and stopped because it was pretty boring to grind without any progress from Paragon could start again. (I definitely would)
2: Some of the hype has calmed down, maybe this would prevent the droves of gold farming devaluing the price of gold and reducing the current saturation.
3: A chance for players who bought the game after release to not be bottom feeders
Pointless discussing it really because I dont think Bliz will do it, it just confuses me as imo it makes perfect sense. And there's a single reason which makes such a suggestion completely stupid: People have paid money for items. You delete those items, you get lawsuits.
ladder resets dont delete items or characters. they move them to a none ladder part. I myself never cared about ladder resets in D2, when we got the urge to play again me and my friends played form the start. uselly got bored around lv70-80 and stoped playing again
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On March 22 2013 23:56 Shottaz wrote:
I know they have already ruled out the possibility of a ladder reset but considering the issues the game has had so far, I think there are a load of good reasons for a ladder reset...
1: The game is much better now than it was at release, all those people who played it a bit and stopped because it was pretty boring to grind without any progress from Paragon could start again. (I definitely would)
2: Some of the hype has calmed down, maybe this would prevent the droves of gold farming devaluing the price of gold and reducing the current saturation.
3: A chance for players who bought the game after release to not be bottom feeders
Pointless discussing it really because I dont think Bliz will do it, it just confuses me as imo it makes perfect sense.
there is no ladder so there can be no ladder reset. it appears you are suggesting a character reset, which is absurd because of the RMAH and the shitstorm that would result. i think a better suggestion is that they create a ladder in the first place, and not allow transfers (gold or items) from the previous characters.
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I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag.
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On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag.
Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you.
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Yeah I would guess that it's your PC. Have you tried turning down the graphic settings or are you sure it's a connectivity issue? The barb is probably the most forgiving character but unless you're planning on playing HC, dying isn't that devastating or anything.
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On March 22 2013 23:56 Shottaz wrote:
I know they have already ruled out the possibility of a ladder reset but considering the issues the game has had so far, I think there are a load of good reasons for a ladder reset...
1: The game is much better now than it was at release, all those people who played it a bit and stopped because it was pretty boring to grind without any progress from Paragon could start again. (I definitely would)
2: Some of the hype has calmed down, maybe this would prevent the droves of gold farming devaluing the price of gold and reducing the current saturation.
3: A chance for players who bought the game after release to not be bottom feeders
Pointless discussing it really because I dont think Bliz will do it, it just confuses me as imo it makes perfect sense.
Alternatively they could introdoce a new ladder for all Charakters made on some date they choose. They would be completely seperated for the existing ones and everyone who wants can start from scratch.
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On March 24 2013 01:13 Eschaton wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag. Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you.
My internet IS the problem. I'm on 28k dial-up.
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On March 24 2013 07:55 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 01:13 Eschaton wrote:On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag. Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you. My internet IS the problem. I'm on 28k dial-up.
Holy shit, that still exists. O_o
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On March 24 2013 07:55 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 01:13 Eschaton wrote:On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag. Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you. My internet IS the problem. I'm on 28k dial-up.
you gaming from McMurdo station?
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I'd knock on my neighbor's doors and get onto their wifi instead of 56k. Assuming you don't live in a house. hehe
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On March 24 2013 12:14 Eschaton wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 07:55 iTzSnypah wrote:On March 24 2013 01:13 Eschaton wrote:On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag. Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you. My internet IS the problem. I'm on 28k dial-up. you gaming from McMurdo station?
In a valley in the middle of nowhere.
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On March 24 2013 16:03 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 12:14 Eschaton wrote:On March 24 2013 07:55 iTzSnypah wrote:On March 24 2013 01:13 Eschaton wrote:On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag. Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you. My internet IS the problem. I'm on 28k dial-up. you gaming from McMurdo station? In a valley in the middle of nowhere.
damn.. thats really painful. i dont know how i could exist with such a slow internet. i mean... how do you download porn? how do you watch youtube videos?
seriously... 28k dial-up.... half the citizens of zimbabwe probably have access to faster internet than that. wouldnt it be possible to access the internet through your cellphone's 3g connection? that should at least put you over 100kbps...
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Not sure they have 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere though.
Whats embarrassing is that I live fairly centrally in Melbourne, and still only get a crappy ADSL connection. 100kb/s down a good day, and muuuch less up. Still better than dial-up though....  Must be painful.
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On March 24 2013 19:48 Cascade wrote:Not sure they have 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere though. Whats embarrassing is that I live fairly centrally in Melbourne, and still only get a crappy ADSL connection. 100kb/s down a good day, and muuuch less up. Still better than dial-up though.... Must be painful.
what the ...? I've heard quite a lot of stories about the crappy australian internet, but always thought this is mostly related to the low population density, ie the fact that 99.9% of australia is "the middle of nowhere". i also understand that even people from the metropolitan areas cant get 50mbps or something like that as the overseas connection from australia to the rest of the world is too bad. but not even getting 1 or 2 mbps down from central melbourne? thats quite shocking tbh...
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Oh my god how do you even do anything online with those speeds? Back in the day, I would enter a website into my browser and go read the comics while it loaded.
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On March 24 2013 19:48 Cascade wrote:Not sure they have 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere though. Whats embarrassing is that I live fairly centrally in Melbourne, and still only get a crappy ADSL connection. 100kb/s down a good day, and muuuch less up. Still better than dial-up though.... Must be painful.
I agree 3g probably doesn't exist in the middle of nowhere. Lucky to get and signal at all.
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