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viletomato
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada277 Posts
March 25 2013 01:38 GMT
#15621
On March 24 2013 20:02 madnessman wrote:
Oh my god how do you even do anything online with those speeds? Back in the day, I would enter a website into my browser and go read the comics while it loaded.


I remember playing StarCraft on my 486 computer.
The units where moving at like 0.5 fps. I still managed to play the game because the game was so awesome back then.
Tomatoes, the king of fruits
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
March 25 2013 02:31 GMT
#15622
Gah! I can't beat Ikarus. A zillions minions spawn and my internet can't keep up =(
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 21:32:41
March 25 2013 21:31 GMT
#15623
On March 24 2013 19:59 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 19:48 Cascade wrote:
Not sure they have 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere though.

Whats embarrassing is that I live fairly centrally in Melbourne, and still only get a crappy ADSL connection. 100kb/s down a good day, and muuuch less up. Still better than dial-up though.... Must be painful.

what the ...? I've heard quite a lot of stories about the crappy australian internet, but always thought this is mostly related to the low population density, ie the fact that 99.9% of australia is "the middle of nowhere". i also understand that even people from the metropolitan areas cant get 50mbps or something like that as the overseas connection from australia to the rest of the world is too bad. but not even getting 1 or 2 mbps down from central melbourne? thats quite shocking tbh...


I live outside of Los Angeles, roughly 10 miles out of downtown. AT&T has a dead spot nearby near a major thoroughfare. Only very crappy Internet speeds are available in my area as I apparently live on the outskirts of different relay stations. Because the cable company serving my area is terrible, AT&T just never bothers installing a new relay station in my area. I am far away from the relay station serving me that 3 mbps is the fastest available, and it is pretty unstable at times.

On March 25 2013 11:31 iTzSnypah wrote:
Gah! I can't beat Ikarus. A zillions minions spawn and my internet can't keep up =(


You mean Iskatu? He doesn't have many hitpoints, very low for a major opponent. See if you can just spam AE abilities and see if you can get him. Unless you disconnect, of course.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 22:19:37
March 25 2013 22:19 GMT
#15624
On March 26 2013 06:31 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 19:59 Black Gun wrote:
On March 24 2013 19:48 Cascade wrote:
Not sure they have 3G coverage in the middle of nowhere though.

Whats embarrassing is that I live fairly centrally in Melbourne, and still only get a crappy ADSL connection. 100kb/s down a good day, and muuuch less up. Still better than dial-up though.... Must be painful.

what the ...? I've heard quite a lot of stories about the crappy australian internet, but always thought this is mostly related to the low population density, ie the fact that 99.9% of australia is "the middle of nowhere". i also understand that even people from the metropolitan areas cant get 50mbps or something like that as the overseas connection from australia to the rest of the world is too bad. but not even getting 1 or 2 mbps down from central melbourne? thats quite shocking tbh...


I live outside of Los Angeles, roughly 10 miles out of downtown. AT&T has a dead spot nearby near a major thoroughfare. Only very crappy Internet speeds are available in my area as I apparently live on the outskirts of different relay stations. Because the cable company serving my area is terrible, AT&T just never bothers installing a new relay station in my area. I am far away from the relay station serving me that 3 mbps is the fastest available, and it is pretty unstable at times.


well, i understand your pain and know that unstable 3mbps are quite bad. but in principle, 3mbps are enough for almost all games and enough for most browsing activities. heavy torrenting or watching youtube videos on the fly might not work, but thats fundamentally different from not being able to play a game like d3 or having to wait for 10 seconds for tl, of all sites, to load.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 17:56:45
March 27 2013 17:55 GMT
#15625
So I just put 120m gold for sale on the NA SC RMAH. It's my first time selling gold so I don't really know what to expect. Has anybody sold any gold recently? How long do you think I'll wait before I actually pocket real cash? 120m gold ($0.25/1m gold)=$30 or $21.675 after the double transaction fees right?
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 27 2013 21:31 GMT
#15626
On March 24 2013 16:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 12:14 Eschaton wrote:
On March 24 2013 07:55 iTzSnypah wrote:
On March 24 2013 01:13 Eschaton wrote:
On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag.


Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you.


My internet IS the problem. I'm on 28k dial-up.


you gaming from McMurdo station?

In a valley in the middle of nowhere.


have you considered satellite internet?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 27 2013 21:39 GMT
#15627
On March 28 2013 02:55 madnessman wrote:
So I just put 120m gold for sale on the NA SC RMAH. It's my first time selling gold so I don't really know what to expect. Has anybody sold any gold recently? How long do you think I'll wait before I actually pocket real cash? 120m gold ($0.25/1m gold)=$30 or $21.675 after the double transaction fees right?

It will almost never sell. Smart people will buy Radiant Star gems on the RMAH and sell them for gold, you end up with something like 10 cents per million.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
March 27 2013 21:47 GMT
#15628
On March 28 2013 06:31 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 16:03 iTzSnypah wrote:
On March 24 2013 12:14 Eschaton wrote:
On March 24 2013 07:55 iTzSnypah wrote:
On March 24 2013 01:13 Eschaton wrote:
On March 24 2013 00:41 iTzSnypah wrote:
I've played a good 20 hours in the starter edition and I'm hooked. However my internet is too slow to play D3 without lag when a large amount of enemies are displayed (such as when the skeleton king activates the pillars and all the skeletons spawn). I'm going to buy the game. Which class is the most forgiving to lag? I'm going to be playing solo. I played DH in the starter edition and I've only died once to lag.


Your internet may not be the problem, the engine just doesn't seem very efficient for large amounts of units and effects on screen. I've crashed the game multiple times for my entire party when using CM/WW wizard builds with meteors.. generally the barb doesn't have a lot of effects or projectiles as he gets up close to things and smashes them, that may be a good bet for you, but if your pc is on the slower side the raw speed of the whirlwind build may not be suitable for you.


My internet IS the problem. I'm on 28k dial-up.


you gaming from McMurdo station?

In a valley in the middle of nowhere.


have you considered satellite internet?


I had sat internet for a month and half before I was (finally) able to get dsl hooked up. The raw speed isn't bad, theoretical speed for Exede is 12mb down / 3mb up.

There are some MAJOR drawbacks on sat internet when it comes to nearly all non turn based, multiplayer games over the internet. First and most importantly is the latency. It's bad and it never gets better. Even on my best day my ping on D3 was 600ms minimum. It was usually 800-1000ms. It wasn't impossible to play but it was very annoying. Basically I had to overgear tremendously and play down the content so I could easily stay alive and kill things.

The second, mostly non game related, is the bandwidth limit on sat internet. $50 exede package is only 10gb of bandwidth a month. You won't be watching many videos online and downloading a 2gb game update or something can kill your allotment for the month. Exede has a 12am-5am unmetered time thing where that data doesn't count to your account - so I guess that's something. For comparison for about $50, you can get 6mb down AT&T dsl (like $35 for 6 months) with 150gb bandwidth limit and something along the lines of 25/5 on cable or maybe even faster speeds with around 250gb bandwidth limit. There are other options like u-verse or verizon and more but I don't know the price and data details of those off the top of my head.

You open yourself up to disconnections and issues related to weather/signal issues with sat internet. It was better than I thought it would be but it did crap out during some weather storms.

It's not the speed that will kill you but the latency. It's really bad.

To answer the original question: play barb. Gear up nicely and you can ww around without much thought or care to what's happening on lower monster powers, at least I could on ~1 sec lag. Oh, and don't play HC obviously.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
March 27 2013 23:17 GMT
#15629
On March 28 2013 02:55 madnessman wrote:
So I just put 120m gold for sale on the NA SC RMAH. It's my first time selling gold so I don't really know what to expect. Has anybody sold any gold recently? How long do you think I'll wait before I actually pocket real cash? 120m gold ($0.25/1m gold)=$30 or $21.675 after the double transaction fees right?


Your math is correct! Gold still sells on the RMAH, but very unlikely you will be able to sell without some great timing (posting yoru auctions to expire right before any buyers buy to be 1st in the queue) so the easier way is to sell Radiant Gems as mentioned above, but for much less than $0.25/m. As of 3/27/2013, radiant star emeralds are 28.2m / $2.08.

Selling 112.8m gold @ $0.25/m = $20.37 ($0.18/m)
Selling 4 radiant star emeralds @ $2.08 = $6.01 ($0.053/m)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 28 2013 01:39 GMT
#15630
What else sells besides radiant gems? If my gold auction doesn't go through, should I try buying a nice weapon and selling it for money or are gems my only option?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 28 2013 01:41 GMT
#15631
My friend has a really good method but I don't want to mess up his market by posting it for people to use >.<

Some items will sell decently well on RMAH.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
March 28 2013 01:52 GMT
#15632
On March 28 2013 10:39 madnessman wrote:
What else sells besides radiant gems? If my gold auction doesn't go through, should I try buying a nice weapon and selling it for money or are gems my only option?


Quite a few items sell, and for better than the quoted $0.053/m. If you find the right items you can even get better than the $0.25/m, but much harder to do these days. I used to flip Nat's Marks from both AHs to paypal, Vile Wards used to be a good market, even widely-regarded crappy shenlong market had good margins, but yes all the popular weapons you can think of sell ok - EF, Manti, Skorns. Just search both AHs, multiply the $ by 4 to get a rough estimate of the gold equiv and flip around.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
March 29 2013 07:41 GMT
#15633


Jay Wilson has come out and say that RMAH is a bust.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
March 29 2013 08:24 GMT
#15634
no surprise there. majority of the playerbase in beta was complaining about how AH would ruin the game but jay insisted on keeping it in

greedies gonna greed i guess. curious as to how console d3 will turn out after all the shit its gotten from pc
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 08:33:50
March 29 2013 08:32 GMT
#15635
Well I just managed to sell 40m gold for $10

Pokebunny we're friends (on Diablo 3 as of a few hours ago). You sure you don't want to share?
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
March 29 2013 11:04 GMT
#15636
Makes me wonder if next expansion they will remove the RMAH, or just wait until Diablo 4 to do something else. I'm sure D3 console results will give them the sign. F2p is the hip model these days.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
March 29 2013 17:40 GMT
#15637
There's no doubt the AH, both versions of it, were horrible for D3.

But that alone was not why D3 fell so flat.

There are a plethora of reasons the game was lackluster, you can't blame it all on the AH.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
March 29 2013 18:21 GMT
#15638
Guys guys, you're focusing on the wrong aspect, supposedly there are ~1 million players on daily and ~3 million unique players a month, if so, WHERE ARE THEY?! when i play in open games no body joins. So somethings and someone is lying .
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
March 29 2013 18:27 GMT
#15639
On March 30 2013 03:21 FromShouri wrote:
Guys guys, you're focusing on the wrong aspect, supposedly there are ~1 million players on daily and ~3 million unique players a month, if so, WHERE ARE THEY?! when i play in open games no body joins. So somethings and someone is lying .


I don't know anyone who plays open games.... Its first of all better to farm alone, but when you play with others I at least don't want them to be unknown people who don't want to do the same thing I'm there to do. Why would they even lie about this when they could have kept silent about it
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
March 29 2013 19:42 GMT
#15640
The AHs aren't the problem. The piss-poor itemization that leads people to them is the problem.
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
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