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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 13 2012 02:53 GMT
#15081
So.....I basically quit right before the massive "Paragon" patch. I'm considering just playing again out of habit and love for the Diablo franchise. Can anyone clue me in on the biggest "changes" since then, and is it worth playing?

I have an 80 Barb (full tank, still failed act3) and 80 DH which can farm act3 pre-paragon patch.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 13 2012 03:16 GMT
#15082
- Paragon levels: there are 100 paragon levels after lvl 60, each gicing you +3MF, +3GF (so +300%MF and GF at level 100, which takes a looot of time to reach).
- Inferno is nerfed a lot. ezpz now.
- Items buffed. specially uniques that are BiS in most slots now, and jewelry that got max values for some important mods upped.
- prices always go down as usual: you will be able to get much better gear for cheap.
- monster power: essentially same as "/players 8" in d2. You can control how strong the mosters are, and you get a little more XP, GF and MF for the trouble. Almost always best to farm at the lower (often even lowest) MP, though.
- Infernal machine: you can collect keys (from keywardens) to build a machine that takes you to a special event (ubers) that may give you pieces that you can make a ring out of. You need higher MP to find the keys and pieces, so need a strong guy for this.

Defenitely worth anorther try imo.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
December 13 2012 04:39 GMT
#15083

I can't say enough good things about d3up.com and the analyzing tool to go with it from d3bit.com.

I just downloaded d3bit and was using it on the AH... messing around found a cheap amulet that took my WW Barb from 54k to 62k paperdoll DPS.

It eliminates all the guesswork from buying upgrades off the ah.
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 13 2012 06:09 GMT
#15084
On December 13 2012 01:26 dpurple wrote:
1/14 now, cant wait for the time when Im gonna get 13/14. Im sure it will happen.

Edit: 1/15, really, fuk this game.


HA, i can still beat this!
In the first weeks after 1.0.5 hit, i did 16 Ubers in a row on MP 5 (few MP6) without a single organ drop.
Boy, can you imagine the rage?
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 07:52:36
December 13 2012 07:51 GMT
#15085
On December 13 2012 11:53 Slardar wrote:
So.....I basically quit right before the massive "Paragon" patch. I'm considering just playing again out of habit and love for the Diablo franchise. Can anyone clue me in on the biggest "changes" since then, and is it worth playing?

I have an 80 Barb (full tank, still failed act3) and 80 DH which can farm act3 pre-paragon patch.


It is slightly less repititive. Instead of doing Act 3 over and over, you'll do Act 3 over and over while sometimes meandering through Act 1 and 2 to get keys.
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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
December 13 2012 13:39 GMT
#15086
On December 13 2012 11:53 Slardar wrote:
So.....I basically quit right before the massive "Paragon" patch. I'm considering just playing again out of habit and love for the Diablo franchise. Can anyone clue me in on the biggest "changes" since then, and is it worth playing?

I have an 80 Barb (full tank, still failed act3) and 80 DH which can farm act3 pre-paragon patch.



Drop rate for legendaries buffed, introduction of Monster Power setting, skill changes (DH got nice survivability boost with perfectionnist).

But yeah main thing would be Paragon lvl's coupled with monster power giving you a bigger challenge and better loots

Oh yeah and doing act 1 or 2 on mp 1 or higher gives you same loots (63 rolls on items) as act 3 and 4. So even though everybody still farms act 3 because its the most "efficient", if you just want to have FUN well you can really do all acts and get nice loots.

Oh yeah almost forgot infernal machine with Uber Bosses and a nice ring
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
December 13 2012 13:46 GMT
#15087
I hope someday they let people put Hellfire items (keys and organs) on the AH. Would essentially be a gold sink but helps everyone. Because finding people to do hellfire farming isn't going to get easier as people quit/take a break/etc.
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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
December 13 2012 14:43 GMT
#15088
On December 13 2012 22:46 Burrfoot wrote:
I hope someday they let people put Hellfire items (keys and organs) on the AH. Would essentially be a gold sink but helps everyone. Because finding people to do hellfire farming isn't going to get easier as people quit/take a break/etc.



Or maybe sell the rings for a price....and once the number of rings sold reaches a number.....uber diablo spawns!


Only problem is....what would uber diablo give you? Seeing as they are opposed to charms....
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
December 13 2012 15:02 GMT
#15089
Just let hellfire rings salvage into brimstones and then make brimstones useful for something.
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
klaxen
Profile Joined April 2010
United States361 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 20:14:01
December 13 2012 17:38 GMT
#15090
*nvm, found someone
high master protoss - low master zerg
klaxen
Profile Joined April 2010
United States361 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 20:14:07
December 13 2012 17:40 GMT
#15091
high master protoss - low master zerg
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 13 2012 21:07 GMT
#15092
Logged on....did a Butcher run for fun. Got 15k after selling all blues/rares for my effort. Meh! Economy looks completely nuked.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 13 2012 21:11 GMT
#15093
On December 14 2012 06:07 Slardar wrote:
Logged on....did a Butcher run for fun. Got 15k after selling all blues/rares for my effort. Meh! Economy looks completely nuked.

i actually like the way the economy is at the moment. the AH is flooded with items, so low to mid end items are cheap. you can beat the entire game easily with less than 500,000. now, if you want to perfect your character, all the high end items are expensive, but gradually getting cheaper as more are found/bought. its where it should be. i say this even though i cant afford anything, lol.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 13 2012 21:15 GMT
#15094
Ah I see.......wow less than 500k geez. I have 6.1 Million or something. I'll probably invest all of that into my 60 barbarian, and start playing after tomorrow see how it goes. Or I can give you a hand if you want dAPhREak.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#15095
On December 14 2012 06:15 Slardar wrote:
Ah I see.......wow less than 500k geez. I have 6.1 Million or something. I'll probably invest all of that into my 60 barbarian, and start playing after tomorrow see how it goes. Or I can give you a hand if you want dAPhREak.

thanks. i actually have around 70M. i meant i cant afford anything that would be an upgrade or BIS. i am saving up 100M before i even look for something as an upgrade. you'll find out really fast that you can make a pretty amazing character without a lot of money. which is great for new (or returning) players.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
December 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#15096
On December 14 2012 06:15 Slardar wrote:
Ah I see.......wow less than 500k geez. I have 6.1 Million or something. I'll probably invest all of that into my 60 barbarian, and start playing after tomorrow see how it goes. Or I can give you a hand if you want dAPhREak.


500k *invested wisely*

Make sure you know exactly what to look for for each piece or you'll spend a lot of money buying gear and then rebuying gear.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 21:54:09
December 13 2012 21:42 GMT
#15097
On December 14 2012 00:02 bruteMax wrote:
Just let hellfire rings salvage into brimstones and then make brimstones useful for something.


Or at least salvage into something useful. ie collect enough X to open uber uber portal, guaranteed to drop leg.

i actually like the way the economy is at the moment. the AH is flooded with items, so low to mid end items are cheap. you can beat the entire game easily with less than 500,000. now, if you want to perfect your character, all the high end items are expensive, but gradually getting cheaper as more are found/bought. its where it should be. i say this even though i cant afford anything, lol.


The difference between now and early days of D3 is that the mid to upper-mid quality items are accessible to pretty much anyone if you put in even a casual amount of time, so that it's possible to play around with nearly any build you want to and have fun with it. GG items are still expensive, >>100m, but if that weren't so what would we shoot for other than 100 paragon levels. I've only put in ~50 hrs in 1.05, and my overall gold worth has gone from 50m to probably 10x that, and I'm getting "free" HotS. Farming A1 or A2 pre 1.05 had almost a zero rate of return for me, but now it is possible to progress in a reasonable amount of time to a place where you feel that your toon is "good," but there is still clearly a huge gap between players like myself and those who are wearing items worth >2b each. D3 is still D3, but upward mobility is now much more attainable.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
December 13 2012 22:02 GMT
#15098
On December 14 2012 06:42 Eschaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 00:02 bruteMax wrote:
Just let hellfire rings salvage into brimstones and then make brimstones useful for something.


Or at least salvage into something useful. ie collect enough X to open uber uber portal, guaranteed to drop leg.

Show nested quote +
i actually like the way the economy is at the moment. the AH is flooded with items, so low to mid end items are cheap. you can beat the entire game easily with less than 500,000. now, if you want to perfect your character, all the high end items are expensive, but gradually getting cheaper as more are found/bought. its where it should be. i say this even though i cant afford anything, lol.


The difference between now and early days of D3 is that the mid to upper-mid quality items are accessible to pretty much anyone if you put in even a casual amount of time, so that it's possible to play around with nearly any build you want to and have fun with it. GG items are still expensive, >>100m, but if that weren't so what would we shoot for other than 100 paragon levels. I've only put in ~50 hrs in 1.05, and my overall gold worth has gone from 50m to probably 10x that, and I'm getting "free" HotS. Farming A1 or A2 pre 1.05 had almost a zero rate of return for me, but now it is possible to progress in a reasonable amount of time to a place where you feel that your toon is "good," but there is still clearly a huge gap between players like myself and those who are wearing items worth >2b each. D3 is still D3, but upward mobility is now much more attainable.


Bold is what I really needed pre 1.05. I am enjoying the game so much more now.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
December 13 2012 22:08 GMT
#15099
On December 14 2012 07:02 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 06:42 Eschaton wrote:
On December 14 2012 00:02 bruteMax wrote:
Just let hellfire rings salvage into brimstones and then make brimstones useful for something.


Or at least salvage into something useful. ie collect enough X to open uber uber portal, guaranteed to drop leg.

i actually like the way the economy is at the moment. the AH is flooded with items, so low to mid end items are cheap. you can beat the entire game easily with less than 500,000. now, if you want to perfect your character, all the high end items are expensive, but gradually getting cheaper as more are found/bought. its where it should be. i say this even though i cant afford anything, lol.


The difference between now and early days of D3 is that the mid to upper-mid quality items are accessible to pretty much anyone if you put in even a casual amount of time, so that it's possible to play around with nearly any build you want to and have fun with it. GG items are still expensive, >>100m, but if that weren't so what would we shoot for other than 100 paragon levels. I've only put in ~50 hrs in 1.05, and my overall gold worth has gone from 50m to probably 10x that, and I'm getting "free" HotS. Farming A1 or A2 pre 1.05 had almost a zero rate of return for me, but now it is possible to progress in a reasonable amount of time to a place where you feel that your toon is "good," but there is still clearly a huge gap between players like myself and those who are wearing items worth >2b each. D3 is still D3, but upward mobility is now much more attainable.


Bold is what I really needed pre 1.05. I am enjoying the game so much more now.


Same here, plus I like that I am quite easily at a level where there is worthwhile content I can clear very fast (0-1 MP runs), but other content that is challenging while still being rewarding (ubers, high MP key farming, etc.).
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 22:38:32
December 13 2012 22:37 GMT
#15100
Ya, the upward mobility thing was a huge draw for me. Gave me a real sense of incremental improvement.

After I beat Diablo 3; I played on a pretty tight budget and very slowly bumped my toon up to where I could slowly farm A3 pre-patch. Then the MP / Uber patch came out and I had a new goal; climbing the monster levels. Was at MP 2/3 when patch hit; now I'm at MP 7 (for A1 and 3, for some reason A2 snake guys own me hard on MP 6...). Climbing MP levels wasn't just cheaper it was more gradual too. Also made farming easier; as I could always find a level where I wasn't constantly dying and still getting decent drops. Unlike before where it was A3 or bust.

Unfortunately, I'm at the point where upgrades have a tangible real money cost to them (reinforced by my finally finding something I could sell on the RMAH). So my motivation to improve has gone down again (that and WoW...).
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