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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 04 2012 07:56 GMT
#13081
Is EU down for everyone else? The game tells me it is down and links me to the servers status website which says it is up >.>
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
July 04 2012 08:00 GMT
#13082
On July 04 2012 16:56 Usagi wrote:
Is EU down for everyone else? The game tells me it is down and links me to the servers status website which says it is up >.>


There is server maintenance at the moment. They hope to have the servers back up by 11 CEST.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 04 2012 08:05 GMT
#13083
On July 04 2012 17:00 Lenwe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:56 Usagi wrote:
Is EU down for everyone else? The game tells me it is down and links me to the servers status website which says it is up >.>


There is server maintenance at the moment. They hope to have the servers back up by 11 CEST.

Thankyou.
I couldnt find the ETA on the maintenance, and thought the servers would be up by the morning as they usually take less time than predicted for those. Pitty at 11 I will be wanting to watch GSL :p
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
July 04 2012 08:06 GMT
#13084
I hope the AH will be up soon again, put items on there 5 days ago, havent been able to get on the AH since :s
KCCO!
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 04 2012 08:22 GMT
#13085
On July 04 2012 17:06 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I hope the AH will be up soon again, put items on there 5 days ago, havent been able to get on the AH since :s

I Didnt have many things on AH, however, and while I could get into it once or twice, selling stuff has been near impossible since people couldnt access it. Been short on gold, damn u blizz you made me dependant on your gold machine, and need money for Shen, that greedy bastard never has enough! xD
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 04 2012 09:12 GMT
#13086
Game is back up. But AH is not >_<
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
July 04 2012 09:16 GMT
#13087
AH still down.

It went up for a couple hours monday at 11PM (CEST), so there is a huuuge number of expiring auctions right now. Whoever managed to bid in those 2 hours is a lucky guy.

I lost 5-6 million at least.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 04 2012 09:20 GMT
#13088
AH still down? what have they done? -_-
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
July 04 2012 10:08 GMT
#13089
I've been trying to auction off some items the last 4-5 days and almost each time the auction house have been down or bugged. ZZzzzz
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
July 04 2012 14:14 GMT
#13090
On July 04 2012 02:34 Kenpark wrote:
Dunno about Wds and Dhs but we as Wizards often swap some gear vs reflective mobs. Wouldnt be the end of the world if we cant do it anymore, but it would def make fighting reflective mobs even more of a pain than it already is right now.


Yea...I swap amulets and rings to deal with reflective damage. I'd hate to see that gimped because of a change made to swapping MF gear.
Mercurial#1193
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
July 04 2012 14:16 GMT
#13091
AH works fine for me
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 04 2012 14:28 GMT
#13092
On July 04 2012 23:16 Assault_1 wrote:
AH works fine for me

Yeah, well, EU AH works again as well.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 04 2012 15:34 GMT
#13093
blizz is caught between a rock and a hard place here, because of the hugely diverging income between casuals and serious players and they are choosing wrong in balancing the game based on the latter.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 04 2012 16:40 GMT
#13094
On July 05 2012 00:34 oneofthem wrote:
blizz is caught between a rock and a hard place here, because of the hugely diverging income between casuals and serious players and they are choosing wrong in balancing the game based on the latter.


link talks about what Blizzard does to botters and how banning botters in waves is profitable for Blizzard: http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/blizzard-loves-botters.html

so Blizzard bans accounts and not IP addresses or MAC addresses (which can still be get around but the more annoying to get around the better)

I've basically stopped playing D3 because the only thing to do is farm and honestly imo the best farming method right now is gold farming because item values keep dropping unless you hit the jackpot and find an amazing statted item. so if the best farm method is gold farming, then I'm competing against bots which farm far better and I don't want to play like a human gold farming bot so I quit.

I honestly thought that the RMAH would make Blizzard be much more responsive to botting, but their anti-bot measures are no where close to adequate.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#13095
On July 05 2012 01:40 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 00:34 oneofthem wrote:
blizz is caught between a rock and a hard place here, because of the hugely diverging income between casuals and serious players and they are choosing wrong in balancing the game based on the latter.


link talks about what Blizzard does to botters and how banning botters in waves is profitable for Blizzard: http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/blizzard-loves-botters.html

so Blizzard bans accounts and not IP addresses or MAC addresses (which can still be get around but the more annoying to get around the better)

I've basically stopped playing D3 because the only thing to do is farm and honestly imo the best farming method right now is gold farming because item values keep dropping unless you hit the jackpot and find an amazing statted item. so if the best farm method is gold farming, then I'm competing against bots which farm far better and I don't want to play like a human gold farming bot so I quit.

I honestly thought that the RMAH would make Blizzard be much more responsive to botting, but their anti-bot measures are no where close to adequate.


Have you ever played an online game in the past ten years without bots? They exist because they're impossible to stop, not because companies are lazy about doing things about them.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
wwiv
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore182 Posts
July 04 2012 17:02 GMT
#13096
has anyone noticed that act 3 drops are bad again after tuesday's maintenance?
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 04 2012 17:11 GMT
#13097
On July 05 2012 01:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 01:40 udgnim wrote:
On July 05 2012 00:34 oneofthem wrote:
blizz is caught between a rock and a hard place here, because of the hugely diverging income between casuals and serious players and they are choosing wrong in balancing the game based on the latter.


link talks about what Blizzard does to botters and how banning botters in waves is profitable for Blizzard: http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/blizzard-loves-botters.html

so Blizzard bans accounts and not IP addresses or MAC addresses (which can still be get around but the more annoying to get around the better)

I've basically stopped playing D3 because the only thing to do is farm and honestly imo the best farming method right now is gold farming because item values keep dropping unless you hit the jackpot and find an amazing statted item. so if the best farm method is gold farming, then I'm competing against bots which farm far better and I don't want to play like a human gold farming bot so I quit.

I honestly thought that the RMAH would make Blizzard be much more responsive to botting, but their anti-bot measures are no where close to adequate.


Have you ever played an online game in the past ten years without bots? They exist because they're impossible to stop, not because companies are lazy about doing things about them.


I honestly thought that the RMAH would make Blizzard be much more responsive to botting, but their anti-bot measures are no where close to adequate.


implies I expected D3 to be botted, but I also expected Blizzard to have better anti-botting measures because RMAH presented greater financial incentive for them to do so
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
July 04 2012 17:14 GMT
#13098
On July 05 2012 01:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 01:40 udgnim wrote:
On July 05 2012 00:34 oneofthem wrote:
blizz is caught between a rock and a hard place here, because of the hugely diverging income between casuals and serious players and they are choosing wrong in balancing the game based on the latter.


link talks about what Blizzard does to botters and how banning botters in waves is profitable for Blizzard: http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/blizzard-loves-botters.html

so Blizzard bans accounts and not IP addresses or MAC addresses (which can still be get around but the more annoying to get around the better)

I've basically stopped playing D3 because the only thing to do is farm and honestly imo the best farming method right now is gold farming because item values keep dropping unless you hit the jackpot and find an amazing statted item. so if the best farm method is gold farming, then I'm competing against bots which farm far better and I don't want to play like a human gold farming bot so I quit.

I honestly thought that the RMAH would make Blizzard be much more responsive to botting, but their anti-bot measures are no where close to adequate.


Have you ever played an online game in the past ten years without bots? They exist because they're impossible to stop, not because companies are lazy about doing things about them.


They exist because the ban-wave strategy is bad.

Just some random numbers:
The first Diablo banwave was ~3 weeks after the game was released. With pot bashing bots could easily do 500k/hour.
Let's say the bot needed 7 days to level to 60
Still 24*14 = 336 hours of botting. So 168 million of gold.
Is selling those 168million worth a 60$ account? Yes.

And if you use the same (public) bot again on your next account - it will only be banned when the next banwave is happening. So again enough time to make a profit.
There's 0 financial risk involved when botting, since the account is save until the next banwave.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 04 2012 17:17 GMT
#13099
On July 05 2012 02:14 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 01:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 05 2012 01:40 udgnim wrote:
On July 05 2012 00:34 oneofthem wrote:
blizz is caught between a rock and a hard place here, because of the hugely diverging income between casuals and serious players and they are choosing wrong in balancing the game based on the latter.


link talks about what Blizzard does to botters and how banning botters in waves is profitable for Blizzard: http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/blizzard-loves-botters.html

so Blizzard bans accounts and not IP addresses or MAC addresses (which can still be get around but the more annoying to get around the better)

I've basically stopped playing D3 because the only thing to do is farm and honestly imo the best farming method right now is gold farming because item values keep dropping unless you hit the jackpot and find an amazing statted item. so if the best farm method is gold farming, then I'm competing against bots which farm far better and I don't want to play like a human gold farming bot so I quit.

I honestly thought that the RMAH would make Blizzard be much more responsive to botting, but their anti-bot measures are no where close to adequate.


Have you ever played an online game in the past ten years without bots? They exist because they're impossible to stop, not because companies are lazy about doing things about them.


They exist because the ban-wave strategy is bad.

Just some random numbers:
The first Diablo banwave was ~3 weeks after the game was released. With pot bashing bots could easily do 500k/hour.
Let's say the bot needed 7 days to level to 60
Still 24*14 = 336 hours of botting. So 168 million of gold.
Is selling those 168million worth a 60$ account? Yes.

And if you use the same (public) bot again on your next account - it will only be banned when the next banwave is happening. So again enough time to make a profit.
There's 0 financial risk involved when botting, since the account is save until the next banwave.


So you're suggesting blizzard has a team of ninjas that 1984 people playing games to make sure they don't bot or something? If somebody figured out a feasible way to deal with bots in the past ten years you wouldn't see every online game in the entire world infested with bots. There isn't some conspiracy where blizzard is allowing bots to exist because they make profit off them.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
July 04 2012 17:27 GMT
#13100
I think its more about opportunity cost. Right now, if I choose to bot and I get caught the only thing I lose is my account. Even that, I don't have to worry about for several months until the next ban wave. Then I just buy a new account and I'm good to bot free for a few more months. If blizzard banned Mac addresses, IP addresses, credit cards ect... It would make it harder to me to continue to bot so this might discourage casual botters...
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
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