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whiteLotus
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
and what is the late game about ? | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
i never played diablo for more than an hour or so, and dont really understand its appeal can anyone give me 5 bullet point reasons why its enjoyable, something they had fun with, or something to look forward to? i just dont really get the whole hack n slash thing. my background is in starcraft and MMOs , and i dont see what a hack n slash has to offer over MMO style. is it fun because of endgame dungeon crawls with friends and an unlimited amount of items to farm? what else is there to it? (MMOs i like terrain exploration and even just idling in a pretty open-world location) | ||
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Johnzee
United States216 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:04 FFGenerations wrote: i never played diablo for more than an hour or so, and dont really understand its appeal can anyone give me 5 bullet point reasons why its enjoyable, something they had fun with, or something to look forward to? I understand where you're coming from on the not liking hack-n-slash. When I was a wee lad and scared to ladder SC, playing D2 was for for these reasons: 1. Gratuitous violence 2. Loot! 3. Cool story 4. Modded B.net servers (for phat loot) 5. Corpse Explosion (see no.1) These days my priorities for D3 have changed under an attitude similar to yours: 1. Therapeutic gaming. Playing SC2 is not always a good stress reliever. Something semi-mindless like D3 is. 2. Playing with friends. It's ALWAYS more fun with friends if you've got a good group - most hack-and-slash games are moving this direction to a fault (Borderlands, Darkspore, ect). 3. New multiplayer. D3 seems to promise new multiplayer modes that are about skill than loot and grinding, but it remains to be seen if it will be good. 4. Story. I've always liked the Diablo universe the best. 5. Game design. I work in the industry, and it's interesting for me to see where Blizzard takes the hack-n-slash genre. I expect some new directions given their past record (e.g. taking an RTS and designing specifically for an e-sport). | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:04 whiteLotus wrote: does anyone know what time conference call is at CET? 22.00 The admins on diablofans.com will have a live podcast which will basically be more fun to listen too then the blizzard conference call. Tune in to that and the chat/hype surrounding when the beta (please please please blizzard) is being announced =) | ||
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:04 whiteLotus wrote: does anyone know what time conference call is at CET? 22.30 | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:04 FFGenerations wrote: conference call is in 5 hours i never played diablo for more than an hour or so, and dont really understand its appeal can anyone give me 5 bullet point reasons why its enjoyable, something they had fun with, or something to look forward to? i just dont really get the whole hack n slash thing. my background is in starcraft and MMOs , and i dont see what a hack n slash has to offer over MMO style. is it fun because of endgame dungeon crawls with friends and an unlimited amount of items to farm? what else is there to it? (MMOs i like terrain exploration and even just idling in a pretty open-world location) Honestly, a huge draw for me is the nostalgia factor. I grew up playing Diablo, Diablo 2 and Diablo 2 LOD and D2 is easily in my top 5 games of all time. I hope they keep the WoWness out of Diablo as, like you mentioned, it's a totally different type of game. If you didn't like Diablo 2 then you probably won't like Diablo 3. I actually loved the linear nature of the game and story. I hated in WoW (when I played for a few months years ago) that I would have like 50 quests open at one time and never had any clue where I should be going or what my next goal was. And I absolutely loved the never ending runs through the hardest bosses to try to get better loot. It was always "Ok, its 3 am, just one more run through" over and over again.  I'm not sure how D3 trading is going to work but that was probably what kept me interested in the game for many many years. I couldn't help trying to get the next great deal on a trade or something perfect for my character. The economy aspect fascinated me as a kid/teenager and still does. There are a lot of similarities between MMOs and the Diablo style in regards to character development and customization, loot, experience, etc but the main thing is the way Diablo tells a story and has a defined quest structure. Since you mentioned that you liked MMOs for openness and terrain exploration, this probably won't be a huge hit with you. | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:51 LoLAdriankat wrote: I'm hoping the conference call goes along the lines of "Ok, we have nothing to say EXCEPT THAT WE SENT OUT BETA INVITES. HAVE FUN YA'LL." That would make me the happiest person on Earth, even if I don't get an invite of my own. It doesn't focus on Diablo III completely. Its the whole Blizzard-Activision and mostly financial people there to ask questions and listen what are the plans for this year etc. So there might be something about SC2 also. Here's the streams again: You can listen the whole conference call here: http://investor.activision.com/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=96008 (Requires registration) This is complete call with everything. and with some commentary(?)*FOCUSES ONLY ON DIABLO III* and stuff here: http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy?feature=feedlss#p/l/s/OzJQX1Pt3ZQ | ||
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:29 Grettin wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 09 2011 23:51 LoLAdriankat wrote: I'm hoping the conference call goes along the lines of "Ok, we have nothing to say EXCEPT THAT WE SENT OUT BETA INVITES. HAVE FUN YA'LL." That would make me the happiest person on Earth, even if I don't get an invite of my own. It doesn't focus on Diablo III completely. Its the whole Blizzard-Activision and mostly financial people there to ask questions and listen what is the plans for this year etc. So there might be something about SC2 also. Here's the streams again: You can listen the whole conference call here: http://investor.activision.com/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=96008 (Requires registration) This is complete call with everything. and with some commentary(?)*FOCUSES ONLY ON DIABLO III* and stuff here: http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy?feature=feedlss#p/l/s/OzJQX1Pt3ZQ he talks about a "live feature" on youtube. What is that? can someone pls briefly explain me how that works. nerver tried it :D | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
But its just a streaming in Youtube. Thats what you are wondering? | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:29 Grettin wrote: It doesn't focus on Diablo III completely. Its the whole Blizzard-Activision and mostly financial people there to ask questions and listen what is the plans for this year etc. + Show Spoiler + So there might be something about SC2 also. Here's the streams again: You can listen the whole conference call here: http://investor.activision.com/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=96008 (Requires registration) This is complete call with everything. and with some commentary(?)*FOCUSES ONLY ON DIABLO III* and stuff here: http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy?feature=feedlss#p/l/s/OzJQX1Pt3ZQ Yeah I know. It's just my inner nerd from 11 years ago wanting to play Diablo 3... badly T_T This video still gives me nerd chills. | ||
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:38 Grettin wrote: nvm. understood ur question wrong. But its just a streaming in Youtube. Thats what you are wondering? i am wondering, how can i watch the stream from youtube ? is there something i have to do ? | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:36 ZeraToss wrote: he talks about a "live feature" on youtube. What is that? can someone pls briefly explain me how that works. nerver tried it :D It's just like watching a stream on justin.tv or where ever their stream is hosted. It's a relatively new feature on youtube as far as I'm aware that most people don't make use of ^_^ Completely stoked for the conference call and hopefully the announcement of the beta. Just have to pray I actually get a beta key for this one since I have never gotten one for anything else  | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:43 ZeraToss wrote: i am wondering, how can i watch the stream from youtube ? is there something i have to do ? No, i don't think so. Just click the link i provided you (or someone else provides you if its a different stream) and watch. I'm not really familiar with the streaming feature either. | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
What differentiates the Diablo series from a basic MMO? I know there are differences and I loved the Diablo series (and #2, gogo Hammerdins!). But when I think about it, there is something unique about Diablo that doesn't necessarily classify it as a form of a MMO, ignoring the fact that it came out before MMOs could relatively popularly exist. Is it the great lore? The linear story-telling path? The fact that you can only be up to a party of 8? Those are big tells that have Diablo jump off the MMO wagon, but I know there's more... Help me out? | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:54 Torte de Lini wrote: Hey, I always wanted to figure out. What differentiates the Diablo series from a basic MMO? I know there are differences and I loved the Diablo series (and #2, gogo Hammerdins!). But when I think about it, there is something unique about Diablo that doesn't necessarily classify it as a form of a MMO, ignoring the fact that it came out before MMOs could relatively popularly exist. Is it the great lore? The linear story-telling path? The fact that you can only be up to a party of 8? Those are big tells that have Diablo jump off the MMO wagon, but I know there's more... Help me out? Those are the big ones that I can think of. I mean, the leveling up, looting, trading, character customization, the actual fighting, etc are all similar. I can't think of anything else that is wildly different between the two genres other than what you mentioned. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:25 Charger wrote: Honestly, a huge draw for me is the nostalgia factor. I grew up playing Diablo, Diablo 2 and Diablo 2 LOD and D2 is easily in my top 5 games of all time. I hope they keep the WoWness out of Diablo as, like you mentioned, it's a totally different type of game. If you didn't like Diablo 2 then you probably won't like Diablo 3. I actually loved the linear nature of the game and story. I hated in WoW (when I played for a few months years ago) that I would have like 50 quests open at one time and never had any clue where I should be going or what my next goal was. And I absolutely loved the never ending runs through the hardest bosses to try to get better loot. It was always "Ok, its 3 am, just one more run through" over and over again. I'm not sure how D3 trading is going to work but that was probably what kept me interested in the game for many many years. I couldn't help trying to get the next great deal on a trade or something perfect for my character. The economy aspect fascinated me as a kid/teenager and still does. There are a lot of similarities between MMOs and the Diablo style in regards to character development and customization, loot, experience, etc but the main thing is the way Diablo tells a story and has a defined quest structure. Since you mentioned that you liked MMOs for openness and terrain exploration, this probably won't be a huge hit with you. excellent post. feel exactly the same way. i dont expect anything out of d3 then a fun linear hacknslash with fun combat and shittons of replayfactor and multiplayer. the "bossgrinding" is one of the most addicting things in the history of gaming. just one more run, that ONE thing could drop this time! its almost sad how many nights i wasted back then ~ the trading had such a basic and realistic feel. you were trading wares and while some currencys emerged (skulls,sojs,later runes) it still in the end always was about barter, abusing the lack of knowledge of others etc. diablo 2 lod was the best trading/economy game i ever playd. i spend hours in forums and channels making deals and building a fortune out of nothing just by trading smart and good. maybe i should get into daytrading? :D i want a very basic D3 that just does what d1/2 did just in 2011 and maybe some fresh air. i dont want ANY influence from wow or any other game whatsoever. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy?feature=feedlsb#p/l/RrrTs4qxNRM There's really no reason it shouldn't though. Diablo is an MMO really. Maybe not in the sense of something like WoW or Everquest. MMO just means massively multiplayer online, which Diablo certainly has been ever since the original. The only major difference I can think of is that the game is played in small groups instead of everybody being in the same world. Parts of WoW are like this as well though (dungeons, raids, battlegrounds) and I've never played Everquest, but I think it has similar dynamics. I wouldn't get caught up on the fact that it's an MMO really. There is great lore behind the game and the story telling path has been pretty linear in the past, but that's one of the reasons I always enjoyed it. | ||
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sOvrn
United States678 Posts
On May 10 2011 00:54 Torte de Lini wrote: Hey, I always wanted to figure out. What differentiates the Diablo series from a basic MMO? I know there are differences and I loved the Diablo series (and #2, gogo Hammerdins!). But when I think about it, there is something unique about Diablo that doesn't necessarily classify it as a form of a MMO, ignoring the fact that it came out before MMOs could relatively popularly exist. Is it the great lore? The linear story-telling path? The fact that you can only be up to a party of 8? Those are big tells that have Diablo jump off the MMO wagon, but I know there's more... Help me out? The game mechanics are different. In MMOs you usually have class roles like: healers, dps, tank, where diablo is all DPS all the time. In MMOs it takes forever to do anything useful and you need an organized party to progress through the game where diablo you can pretty much solo the game and if you group you can get away with a more sloppy team than a wow team would require. The item greed is pretty much the same, but again in diablo you can rely on yourself more to get good gear without needing a bunch of ppl to acquire the best gear. All in all, I think diablo offers the same satisfaction that you could get from an MMO, but demands much less time. Besides, there is that awesome feature that diablo pioneered which is Hardcore - where if your char dies he can't resurrect. IMO, this is the best feature of diablo and I look forward to being a HC badass. | ||
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