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koreasilver
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PeT[uK]
United States412 Posts
On September 14 2011 09:42 koreasilver wrote: FFVII sucks. Shitty protagonist, childish antagonist. The supporting characters were great and the setting was cool. Everything about the game was great but the two characters the entire goddamned story revolves around were both retarded. Alright, maybe the game as a whole didn't suck as much as I say sometimes, but it is far from the best RPG games. lmfao I know it's your opinion or whatever, but this is just unacceptable. FFVII was THE best RPG game ever put on the damn market. After that, id say FFX, but this is preference. | ||
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koreasilver
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On September 14 2011 10:11 koreasilver wrote: FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, Suikoden II were all better than FFVII. I prefer FFIV over VII as well. These things are all down to personal preference though. Let's just say they're all freaking awesome and leave it at that. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On September 14 2011 09:30 jdseemoreglass wrote: People still play Final Fantasy? I knew they were still making them, but I thought the franchise was essentially dead after XI. Each additional game after 10 has merely served to tarnish the epic legacy of VII. Edited - I edited a portion of the post out. Also again I apologize for the long thread about other things with your quote in it. Edit 2 - Okay I really do apologize. Really I'm sorry. No excuse for long ranting post that existed previously >.>. It's not specifically towards you but I don't understand negativity towards other games recently (this is just generally speaking in terms of message boards not TL but the entire world as a whole!). See this. Sums it up nicely. Okay first of all sure it's okay to say you don't like something but there's no need to apply it to everyone. Also: See this, this, this, this, Also Elder Scrolls and Diablo 3 sucks and they're both overhyped cruddy games. *Runs away* Again not towards anyone specific in general but like the blog I linked to, it seems I always find people bashing other games. Now of course disliking a game is fine but I think it should be done politely >.>. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:32 Goldfish wrote: What's with all the negativity? See this. Okay first of all sure it's okay to say you don't like something but there's no need to apply it to everyone or make it seem like everyone is dumb for liking it. It's like Karate Kid and the newer version with Will Smith's son - I remember hearing the exact same thing and how it'll ruin our childhood memories because a new movie vaguely based off of the original will be released and it's set in China and it'll ruin our childhood memories forever! Also people aren't allowed to like the new movie! See this, this, this, this, Also Elder Scrolls and Diablo 3 sucks and they're both overhyped cruddy games. *Runs away* Though really on a serious note why do people feel the need to "represent everyone" with negative comments about a game or media in general? The sad thing about the internet it's always with something: Believe it or not there were masses of people who said Counter-Strike sucks and is only played by nubs and requires no skill at all compared to <insert classic FPS here>. Visit various PC gaming forums from 2002 or so and notice how people all bash Counter-Strike because it's more popular than their game? Now suddenly that CS is no longer popular, it's a super good game and represents eSports and takes skills! Same with DotA (read the battle.net WC3 forums from 2004-2008). Now it's CoD and LoL sucks while CS and DotA ftw. I'm sure in the future this will keep happening (once CoD falls off the radar and popular new FPS 2.0 comes out. It'll be like how CoD takes so much skill and new super popular FPS sucks and takes no skill and how everyone who never played CoD before sucks.). WC4 comes out and SC2 players will troll the WC4 forums saying how the game is so easy and takes no skill. SC3 comes out and now WC4 players will troll the forums how SC3 is so easy compared to WC4. Diablo 4 comes out and Diablo 3 players will troll D4 players about how D3 was a much better game than D4 and it also takes much more skill. Repeat until the end of time. Also this post isn't specific towards anyone here, it's towards everyone in every single gaming forum ever. In fact not just the internet but the entire world! tl;dr I'm tired of all the unwarranted negativity about everything related to everything in the entire universe when it's unnecessary. tl;dr 2 - Before anyone says anything, yes I'm mad bro because I believe all this negativity is unwarranted and I think people should at least be constructive with negativity about anything not be "lol <insert game here sucks because well it's different and it sucks>". Wow dude, I'm talking about Final Fantasy and you bring up like 8 other games and a Will Smith movie? Obviously some older games are better than newer ones... What's with all the negativity?  | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:46 jdseemoreglass wrote: Wow dude, I'm talking about Final Fantasy and you bring up like 8 other games and a Will Smith movie? Obviously some older games are better than newer ones... What's with all the negativity? Sorry it's not really towards anyone "specifically" (also the Karate Kid was an analogy) which is why I added all those examples. Also sorry for leaving the quote, again I really do apologize and I'm sorry. Well I do apologize and I shall edit some of it out (though feel free to leave it in your quote). [Though I'll make sure to keep enough show that my main post is basically the same but just without all the theoretically examples of what arguments may come in the future of video games >.>). | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On September 14 2011 12:32 Goldfish wrote: + Show Spoiler + What's with all the negativity? See this. Okay first of all sure it's okay to say you don't like something but there's no need to apply it to everyone or make it seem like everyone is dumb for liking it. It's like Karate Kid and the newer version with Will Smith's son - I remember hearing the exact same thing and how it'll ruin our childhood memories because a new movie vaguely based off of the original will be released and it's set in China and it'll ruin our childhood memories forever! Also people aren't allowed to like the new movie! See this, this, this, this, Also Elder Scrolls and Diablo 3 sucks and they're both overhyped cruddy games. *Runs away* Though really on a serious note why do people feel the need to "represent everyone" with negative comments about a game or media in general? The sad thing about the internet it's always with something: Believe it or not there were masses of people who said Counter-Strike sucks and is only played by nubs and requires no skill at all compared to <insert classic FPS here>. Visit various PC gaming forums from 2002 or so and notice how people all bash Counter-Strike because it's more popular than their game? Now suddenly that CS is no longer popular, it's a super good game and represents eSports and takes skills! Same with DotA (read the battle.net WC3 forums from 2004-2008). Now it's CoD and LoL sucks while CS and DotA ftw. I'm sure in the future this will keep happening (once CoD falls off the radar and popular new FPS 2.0 comes out. It'll be like how CoD takes so much skill and new super popular FPS sucks and takes no skill and how everyone who never played CoD before sucks.). WC4 comes out and SC2 players will troll the WC4 forums saying how the game is so easy and takes no skill. SC3 comes out and now WC4 players will troll the forums how SC3 is so easy compared to WC4. Diablo 4 comes out and Diablo 3 players will troll D4 players about how D3 was a much better game than D4 and it also takes much more skill. Repeat until the end of time. Also this post isn't specific towards anyone here, it's towards everyone in every single gaming forum ever. In fact not just the internet but the entire world! tl;dr I'm tired of all the unwarranted negativity about everything related to everything in the entire universe when it's unnecessary. tl;dr 2 - Before anyone says anything, yes I'm mad bro because I believe all this negativity is unwarranted and I think people should at least be constructive with negativity about anything not be "lol <insert game here sucks because well it's different and it sucks>". But it's not unwarranted at all. Just look around you. SC2 is the scourge of TL I say! + Show Spoiler + But seriously, it's usually because new things have yet to stand the test of time and so fans are (as they should be) wary. Especially when a newer game tries to usurp it's (much) better predecessor. And then somehow has the balls to claim itself as the premier ESPORT blah blah blah | ||
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On September 14 2011 13:02 Skew wrote: Why don't they make any of the newer FFs on PC wtf is the goddamn deal -_-; I'm not sure. Apparently Final Fantasy 13 uses Crystal Tools engine which is PC friendly. (FFXIV uses same engine and is on PC). I'm not sure why but I guess there's still a lot of effort to port them over. That and maybe "The Last Remnant" and "Front Mission Evolved" did not do so well in PC sales so SE must have thought FF13 or w/e won't sell as well. Though I disagree because TLR is a like it or hate it type of game (Personally I like it but I know several disliked it and I do agree with things they disliked about TLR[I'm a sucker for Battle Dialogue that's why I bought TLR >.>]) and Front Mission Evolves was really buggy sadly so it probably did poor due to that. Final Fantasy XIV had really negative reviews so that may be a factor too. (FFXIV was basically shipped off as an "alpha". In fact it was missing somethings even FFXI had at launch >.<). FFXIV is still in development though if anyone is curious (updates are still coming and it's in "limited free to play" where basically it's F2P until FFXIV is deemed good). Finally they're not doing so well financially (well compared to in the past anyway) and reportedly canceled a lot of projects. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
i personally loved ffx because it was the first ever rpg i kinda played on my own, but my opinion changes every time i play another final fantasy game. anyways i'm excited for the new game. seems like they're going in a seperate direction now. i've always wanted to see what ff20 and on would be like. | ||
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
On September 14 2011 13:09 Goldfish wrote: That and maybe "The Last Remnant" and "Front Mission Evolved" did not do so well in PC sales so SE must have thought FF13 or w/e won't sell as well. Going to check TLR out and see what it's all about. I've actually liked every single FF game in some way or another so this will probably keep me busy for a little. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On September 14 2011 13:31 Skew wrote: Going to check TLR out and see what it's all about. I've actually liked every single FF game in some way or another so this will probably keep me busy for a little. Nice  . Here are some of my pros and cons with the game in that post. Though the game is more like the SaGa series than Final Fantasy in terms of gameplay (though you can get a feel for the gameplay in the Steam demo). Story is a bit too short for its own good too.I like the game overall but yeah I posted what I think every point there is to like and dislike about the game in that link/post. One thing I particularly dislike is that you can't change your party member's equipment "but" with a simple tweak (editing an ini file. I have a link in that post to the wikia which explains how to do it) you can do that (not intended but hey they did add that option for PC users to mess around). There's a demo on Steam if you're interested to test it out. | ||
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On September 14 2011 14:15 Skew wrote: Downloading the demo now :O Only steam is capable of making me a legal internet user lmao. I linked to a reply I made but I think my starting post will be more helpful (there's a part where I rant about how the game felt too short but besides that it has useful info. I suggest playing Windowed mode so you can easily switch from the game to your web browser to look up stuff on the wikia ).One thing that isn't explained in the demo (since it starts you off "after" the tutorials) is that to engage in monsters, press space (by default). When you press space you'll engage into battle with any nearby monsters without a morale penalty (if you get attacked by a monster you get a morale penalty for that battle). Also you activate "Timeshift" by pressing shift. See this for explanation Also remember to set your config > gamepad and set it to "Keyboard display" if you're using a keyboard (by default it shows which Xbox controller buttons to press but if you want keyboard you need to switch it under "Gamepad" section of settings). PC Tweaking FAQ. Summary Walkthrough (It lists any missable stuff usually so you can go do them before proceeding them on). A couple of things to note: 1. Lots of missable stuff in the game. I suggest making a separate save every 3 hours of play or so so if you mess up something or miss something you can load an earlier save. There are 50 save slots so feel free to use them . Also save games (and config files) are stored in here "C:\Users\<User Name>\Documents\My Games\The last remnant". For the demo it's "The last remnant trial".Definitely use the wikia and use the walkthrough and remember to complete every single quest before going through the "Aqueducts" (at one point you'll have to go through there. Once done, most quests from that point on will be gone and you'll miss them forever). Also a certain point there is a quest where you have to side with a girl or an old guy (you'll know what I'm talking about). If you want an extra character, always side the old guy. You'll miss a quest but the quest leads to a downer ending[for that quest anyway, not for the game] (and it's not required for 100% in the PC version) so no worries. 2. If a party member asks whether or not to learn a skill, always tell them to learn it. (For example if party asks should I try learning remedies? Always tell them to learn it). The reason is that it allows that character to learn a new set of skills but you only have one chance and if you say no they won't learn it. You can set which characters can use what skills so it doesn't matter how many skills you have (this was only an issue in the original Xbox 360 version where you couldn't turn off certain skills). 3. Don't level grind until you have at least 15 party members! Avoid monster fights as much as possible in early game because the game is similar to Elder Scrolls or FF8 in the sense that monsters "level up" with you (it's based on your battle rank). Not only do they level up with you but the higher the BR, the lower stat gains you'll gain from battles. It's not as bad as it sounds. You can fight every monster you encounter but just don't purposely level grind until you have at least 15+ party members (that way they can all level up at the same time. So there's a bit of min/maxing (best way is to wait till you have 15 party members before leveling to min/max. 18 is the max but leveling with 15 should be fine). 4. Finally one last thing is each character has classes but the problem is you can't switch them and they change automatically depending on what skills you have leveled. In terms of short term benefits this doesn't matter too much and it'll probably change constantly until it reaches one of the three rank 7 classes. Read this for more info. Though don't worry too much about it For the most part classes don't matter too much (they just provide small stat benefits) and it's really hard to keep a character one class (you can by turning off certain skills a character can use for example but IMO if you're playing the first time I say you shouldn't worry about it too much). More info about classes + Show Spoiler + You can read the wikia and try to keep a character a class but one negative point about the game is the classes and changing classes. "Scholar" is one of the classes you may want to keep if you to obtain it. To keep that class don't use hexes, invocations, evocations, and do not use katanas for that character. I'm not positive this will keep the class though even with all that (it will delay class changing but with enough leveling you may change into another class automatically since Scholar is only a rank 4 class).. Besides Scholar I suggest making Rush dual wield two medium size katanas so he can eventually level into the Ninja class if you want Rush to be a physical attacker. Though if you want him to be more of a caster don't do that and make him a Warlock instead when you can. Either way most of the classes should be fine). Ordainer is another Rank 7 class (it's basically the same as Ninja in terms of benefits except it features +15% damage bonus with combat arts rather than +15% while dual wielding. IMO I think it's easier just to train a character to be a Ninja since the benefits are almost the same but NInja is much easier to obtain. These are three classes which Rush will eventually obtain after leveling (there are several others but everything leads to either of those three classes). Also if you obtain one, you can't change out of it (those 3 classes that is) but the main benefit is the "Safety" skill which they all have so it doesn't matter too much anyway. Anyway the game is about 40-60+ hour game if you do all the sidequests. Story/main quest is about 10 hours. In terms of voiced (or dialogue in the main storyline in gelera) cutscenes, I'd say around 40-60 minutes total (for a comparison I think most FF games starting with FF6 have at least 3+ hours worth of dialogue/cutscenes). So as you can see there's lots of missable stuff, not too much "re doable" endgame content, and not everything is really explained in game. Also again it's a bit short (main story wise) and mostly sidequests but if you're fine with all that and like the demo I'd recommend it. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
http://jin115.com/archives/51819562.html I personally prefer the 2009 look than the latest. | ||
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Chuiu
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