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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 15:41:08
September 06 2010 15:38 GMT
#16481
On September 07 2010 00:34 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 00:29 spinesheath wrote:
I just had a game where Garen was spinning on me, and it looked like he got off an autoattack while spinning. There definitely was something that didn't seem like it was part of the regular spinning crap.
I guess he would have killed me anyways, but it was really weird.

it flashes when it crits Oo?

Well I don't think it was a crit. Can't say for sure though because I was busy dieing. That and I am not very used to laning against Garen and him flashing next to me to spin me dead. I don't really see his spin in a rather calm situation very often.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
September 06 2010 15:49 GMT
#16482
hahaha, are they never gonna fix the poppy-receiving-no-damage-from-dragon-after-heroic-charging-it bug?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 06 2010 15:49 GMT
#16483
On September 06 2010 23:44 gtrsrs wrote:
Blitz is not a tank because
1 he has nothing to make people focus him. Once he blows his load his Damage output is very small
2 he has no survivability skills. If he gets focused he drops like a corpse and his mana shield just depletes his usefulness even more

blitz is a niche ganker/initiator. You use him to make the fight 5v1+4 instead of 5v5

well yeah but you build him as a tank. I guess he's "tough" by Riot's terms
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 16:11:37
September 06 2010 15:59 GMT
#16484
On September 07 2010 00:02 Yiruru wrote:
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On September 06 2010 23:24 Kingske wrote:
On September 06 2010 23:19 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Ranked is a depressing hell hole.

Play a few bad games (some my fault admittedly, too many first game of the day lol). End up with utter trash. Just had 3 ppl leave in first 10m. At 1200 elo, really cbf trying to improve it.

Going back to unranked.



12000 elo and below is literal hell. you have charted into deadly waters my friend


Doesn't get better at 1600+ so it's fine.

1. 1-8 Nasus tells me he has the same K-A ratio as me, but I ksed him. My score, 6-0.
2. 1-9 Annie refuses to surrender because he says I'm afk. Meanwhile, I'm halfway up the map pushing.
3. 0-6 WW, starts by calling me a noob and then losing to Olaf jungle while feeding kills to their solos

Oh and this was in 2 games

What the guy is saying is that losing leads to streaks much more likely than winning. If the morons that you and your (hopefully you brought one) duo partner aren't even able to get carried you will lose and be paired with worse and worse morons every time.


On September 06 2010 12:07 HazMat wrote:
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On September 06 2010 11:28 r33k wrote:
On September 06 2010 11:21 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I love people who handicap themselves and the team by picking terrible champions. And then they expect for you to not blame them. What do I expect? Don't pick shitty champions. If someone plays terrible it's easier to just blame the person who picked the shitty champion, because you probably aren't going to be very good no matter how well you play.

Absolutely true. Some carries can be babysat and will pay off later (think akali, corki, ashe), but those who cant fucking hold a solo lane or who pick say tf or kass after ez first pick are just incredibly gimping the team. My problem is not even with picking terrible champs per se, it's about not looking at what your team needs and just picking something completely retarded for the situation you're in.

Also is it just my impression or does every eve player also play trynd or vice versa? Whenever I see one in the champ selection screen the team start spamming WTF EVE SUCKS SRSLY PICK SOMETHING ELSE OMG and the genius (if he is able to read) always picks trynd...

<.<
Kass isn't a bad pick.
As someone who plays at high elo and mains Nidalee/Kassadin, I take offense from that.
I'm not fucking gimping the team by picking a champion that isn't "imbalanced". I'm gimping a team if I play bad, regardless if I am playing Kassadin or Garen.

Not saying Kass is bad at all, he's my favorite mid. And nida is amazing too nobody complains about either of them being UP. What I was mentioning is that after someone first-picked a mid you can't really afford to force him to lane. Laning kass (2v2) is in my eyes a complete waste of a pick since his Q harass isn't really going to win him the cs battle and he is going to be vulnerable to jungler ganks. Of course you can put him in the 2v2 lane (which as I said is the only free lane left since 2 people already picked a solo top) but to prevent them from feeding/losing the tower/being behind 60 creeps by lv 6 you are going to need to pick a babysitter (sion, taric, soraka) and have them 2v2.

On September 07 2010 00:49 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
hahaha, are they never gonna fix the poppy-receiving-no-damage-from-dragon-after-heroic-charging-it bug?

How is this still in the game? :O

When speaking to akali I referred to her as a "carry". No characters can really "carry" a team in LoL, except for the temporarily OP ones who will aim for a solo lane anyways. Speaking about akali I used the term "carry" as in "she needs to be babysat for the first 5-6 levels, then she can do her own thing (such as counterjungling/roaming which is what the best akalis i've seen have been doing).
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 16:10:59
September 06 2010 16:09 GMT
#16485
EDIT: woops double post... quote and edit are too small -.-
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 06 2010 16:17 GMT
#16486
It was fun playing a game as olaf and after the battle gets started i pop ghost and Ragnarok and do what an Olaf does and charge at their carries(ryze/shaco?) and i begin to laugh after taric ryze and malphite all try to disable me(malphite slow obv) and it does nothing, and we ace them

good times
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 06 2010 17:04 GMT
#16487
On September 06 2010 21:26 Phrost wrote:
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On September 06 2010 20:00 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On September 06 2010 19:13 RA wrote:
On September 06 2010 18:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
And that's applied after magic pen. So if you have 20 magic pen, and they have 100 mresist, it's 100-20 = 80, then ignore 40% of that.


I think it's % before flat -, at least it was stated like that on LoL forums in mechanics sectio nor something, not sure where exactly.

On September 06 2010 18:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Vlad deserves a nerf, just give him a mana pool and suddenly he's perfectly balanced.


I would actually like that (as a Vlad player) if there wouldn't be an HP/% cost on spells


I was saying add a mana cost in addition to the %HP and it'd be balanced lol
Vladimir is not imba. He's just not particularly fun to play against. He was like heimerdinger a few patches ago. Not unbeatable, just requires a strategy that you may not be comfortable or used before.
no heimerdinger was pretty goddam unbeatable a few patches ago. he's still very very hard to beat. there shouldnt be strategies that can only be beat if that comp messed up bad (4tanks + kog, heim push team) but RIOT fails.

On September 06 2010 21:53 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Gotta love ranked.
Cap bans Vlad/Shen.
Enemy picks Morg, Garen, Shaco. Malph
Our only tank is Blitz..
Guess im building tank asap zz
Edit: Jungle malphite to boot omg
i don't see what's so bad about this? shaco's not amazing anymore, them getting garen/morg sucks but they have two junglers. vlad wasn't too bad a ban (i ban vlad) and Blitz makes it so that you don't really need a full tank-engager. but i'm sure you're super pro and deserve to be 1900 Elo but you're gonna play normal since you don't want to go through the legendary "Elo Hell".
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 06 2010 17:16 GMT
#16488
I just like playing normal because I can get a 5 man going without any of the crazy MUST WIN tension.

There's enough rage going around in normal that I don't want to be responsible for a loss in ranked :<
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
September 06 2010 17:19 GMT
#16489
EU servers down? Gaah, just had enough ip for urgot ;(
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 06 2010 17:23 GMT
#16490
On September 07 2010 02:19 rkarhu wrote:
EU servers down? Gaah, just had enough ip for urgot ;(


Save it.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 06 2010 17:25 GMT
#16491
I like Urgot. He reminds me of the Dwemer guy from Morrowind.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
September 06 2010 17:29 GMT
#16492
So, I got some RP today and am wondering what to spend it on XD
the only champs i dont have are zilean, xin zhao, kennen, kog'maw, galio, and blitzcrank. This is my first time getting Riot Points so i also want some skins too D: the decision is so hard!! Is kog'maw worth buying? and is vlad getting nerfed in the next patch?
"Only the Good Die Young"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 06 2010 17:30 GMT
#16493
On September 07 2010 01:17 arb wrote:
It was fun playing a game as olaf and after the battle gets started i pop ghost and Ragnarok and do what an Olaf does and charge at their carries(ryze/shaco?) and i begin to laugh after taric ryze and malphite all try to disable me(malphite slow obv) and it does nothing, and we ace them

good times


the only thing i don't like about playing olaf is playing him 2 games in a row cause by the end of game 1 you feel invincible (cause you are) and then game 2 starts and you aren't a bad-ass until level 6 any more... i hate that feeling
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
September 06 2010 17:32 GMT
#16494
Olaf is really dependent on his team at times though, aka he needs his teams to help in the ganks. When I play jungle Olaf the ganks are good, but the enemy team needs to be pushing. That's why i prefer to play jungle Shaco, the enemy team needs to be shut down in the laning phase though because i can not teamfight. But ganks are so much easier with stealth.
"Only the Good Die Young"
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
September 06 2010 17:33 GMT
#16495
On September 07 2010 02:23 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 02:19 rkarhu wrote:
EU servers down? Gaah, just had enough ip for urgot ;(


Save it.


I really think Urgot isn't as terrible as people make him out to be. PIMP made a great video demonstrating how to play him. Your success depends so much on the early/midgame cuz he scales so badly, but he can really zone out an opponent earlygame with minimal effort.
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
September 06 2010 17:35 GMT
#16496
And what does "Server Busy" mean? Just a clever way of saying that they are down?
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
September 06 2010 17:35 GMT
#16497
Urgot is also a great solo 2v1. With the missiles locking on he has great harass while outleveling people. His only real big issue is escape, because he doesn't have any means to get away. But he deals a ton of damage very efficiently. He just needs ghost and maybe flash if you're in a higher ELO.
"Only the Good Die Young"
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
September 06 2010 17:42 GMT
#16498
Is going 0-9-21 Ghost/Flash a bad idea? I do that with almost all my champions except for my junglers.
Whaaaa?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 06 2010 17:44 GMT
#16499
On September 07 2010 00:38 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 00:34 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On September 07 2010 00:29 spinesheath wrote:
I just had a game where Garen was spinning on me, and it looked like he got off an autoattack while spinning. There definitely was something that didn't seem like it was part of the regular spinning crap.
I guess he would have killed me anyways, but it was really weird.

it flashes when it crits Oo?

Well I don't think it was a crit. Can't say for sure though because I was busy dieing. That and I am not very used to laning against Garen and him flashing next to me to spin me dead. I don't really see his spin in a rather calm situation very often.

He can hit with Demacian Justice mid-spin, but iirc it stops the spin.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 06 2010 17:47 GMT
#16500
On September 06 2010 21:26 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 20:00 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On September 06 2010 19:13 RA wrote:
On September 06 2010 18:28 BlackPaladin wrote:
And that's applied after magic pen. So if you have 20 magic pen, and they have 100 mresist, it's 100-20 = 80, then ignore 40% of that.


I think it's % before flat -, at least it was stated like that on LoL forums in mechanics sectio nor something, not sure where exactly.

On September 06 2010 18:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Vlad deserves a nerf, just give him a mana pool and suddenly he's perfectly balanced.


I would actually like that (as a Vlad player) if there wouldn't be an HP/% cost on spells


I was saying add a mana cost in addition to the %HP and it'd be balanced lol


Yeah and everytime cho'gath uses feast he should lose a stack of feast...



Vladimir is not imba. He's just not particularly fun to play against. He was like heimerdinger a few patches ago. Not unbeatable, just requires a strategy that you may not be comfortable or used before.

Here's how you win a fight against Vlad: When you commit to attacking him the damage you deal must be greater than the damage his transfusion deals plus about 50. If you do this every time he transfuses you then you will come out ahead and eventually kill him. Very early in the game vlad cannot do much more than chip away at people with Transfusion because the health costs of Tides of Blood are so much he will very likely end up doing more damage to himself using it than he would be dealing to you. If you're ranged you can easily punish vlad for trying to transfusion you by just attacking him. His Q's range of 500 is less than almost every ranged champion except I think morgana and sivir who have 450. Most ranged champions have 550+ range on their auto attacks.

If you get teleport or buy lots of health potions you should be fine too. Vlad doesn't have a lot of burst so you will know when he's trying to finish you. Don't be stupid and give him the chance.

I don't think he's unbeatable, I just think he needs a nerf. I know how to play against him in theory but there are a LOT of games where even if I hit a 4 second silence on him he'll still escape at low HP after landing his ult and come back in afterwards to get 3 kills on us.

You know, like, he's fine and balanced if he doesn't get a kill but there are some games where you're just like "well, they have vlad, we lost" and I think that needs to be slightly changed.
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