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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 30 2010 22:41 GMT
#15481
so is kog maw just a "win more" kind of hero... where if your team was going to win, he's just going to help the process..

where I find heroes like amummu game changers, where they can actually change the tides..

but tbh, I've seen kogs do some pretty nast things lately and turn some games around so maybe im looking at it the wrong way...

Madreds bloodrazor + boots + green pot + red is pretty darn scary, and you can get that really early..
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 30 2010 23:09 GMT
#15482
On August 31 2010 07:41 BraveGhost wrote:
so is kog maw just a "win more" kind of hero... where if your team was going to win, he's just going to help the process..

where I find heroes like amummu game changers, where they can actually change the tides..

but tbh, I've seen kogs do some pretty nast things lately and turn some games around so maybe im looking at it the wrong way...

Madreds bloodrazor + boots + green pot + red is pretty darn scary, and you can get that really early..

No, not true, Kogmaw has the ability to completely turn the game around if you don't focus him before he eats your team in every single fight.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
August 30 2010 23:15 GMT
#15483
Just noticed Malzahar is free this week. What's a rough skill/item build?
#1 LoL player
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
August 30 2010 23:16 GMT
#15484
On August 31 2010 05:00 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.

I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage.
correct. that's why it's good on nidalee and nobody else.

:O. Dunno if you're ironic or not, but I'm sure you're a 10 times better player than me. Isn't it completely awesome on Akali? I have it as an integral component of my build, getting it after Rylai's.
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 30 2010 23:24 GMT
#15485
On August 31 2010 07:37 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 06:00 PanN wrote:
You know, I like this game a lot, but it needs its on freaking community. League of legends community sucks as it is right now.


Couldn't a sub-forum be created here in TL for LoL?

I mean nothing big, not even a 1/100000000 of what SC is, but something to discuss LoL with some order? This thread is great but I've tried to search for a Warwick discussion and its impossible (not really).


I concur
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 30 2010 23:36 GMT
#15486
There is a special forum just for talking about LoL.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 30 2010 23:44 GMT
#15487
I got a triple kill with Kog's passive after eating two members of the other team with his crazy damage. Seriously, blood razers and like one other AS item and you can eat anyone in like 2 seconds...
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 30 2010 23:46 GMT
#15488
On August 31 2010 08:16 Papvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 05:00 redtooth wrote:
On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.

I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage.
correct. that's why it's good on nidalee and nobody else.
:O. Dunno if you're ironic or not, but I'm sure you're a 10 times better player than me. Isn't it completely awesome on Akali? I have it as an integral component of my build, getting it after Rylai's.
the problem with akali is that she sucks in general. the reason i said that is since lich bane procs physical so its not really good without physical pen. its an overly expensive item whose usefulness is really limited to AP heroes that use physical penetration (aka Nidalee). the 500 AP veigar thinking he'll do 500 damage from a lich bane proc actually does about 100 to someone with decent armor. back when i was running TT (before i was high Elo) i used to lich bane rush on AP Ezreal running aPen. there are a very limited number of scenarios where i think lich bane is a good item.

also i think sheen sucks .
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Ruthless
Profile Joined August 2008
United States492 Posts
August 30 2010 23:49 GMT
#15489
On August 31 2010 08:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
There is a special forum just for talking about LoL.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/


but here theres only semi noobs, a lot less total noobs / 14 year olds like you get from riots boards.

Apparently malzhar is really low tier I imagine you build him like any other ap.

tear drop
merc treads or sorcers
book
zhonyas
other decent ap item
finish archangels staff
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 30 2010 23:52 GMT
#15490
On August 31 2010 08:09 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 07:41 BraveGhost wrote:
so is kog maw just a "win more" kind of hero... where if your team was going to win, he's just going to help the process..

where I find heroes like amummu game changers, where they can actually change the tides..

but tbh, I've seen kogs do some pretty nast things lately and turn some games around so maybe im looking at it the wrong way...

Madreds bloodrazor + boots + green pot + red is pretty darn scary, and you can get that really early..

No, not true, Kogmaw has the ability to completely turn the game around if you don't focus him before he eats your team in every single fight.

He's pretty easy to focus, though. Last game I played Annie, I 2v1'd against Kog/Mundo and killed them twice with ganks from our jungle Amumu, got a Zhonya's at lvl 14 thanks to Incinerate nullifying their zoning attempts, then combo'd him in every teamfight taking off a good 3/4 of his HP.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 31 2010 00:01 GMT
#15491
On August 31 2010 08:49 Ruthless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 08:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
There is a special forum just for talking about LoL.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/


but here theres only semi noobs, a lot less total noobs / 14 year olds like you get from riots boards.

Apparently malzhar is really low tier I imagine you build him like any other ap.

tear drop
merc treads or sorcers
book
zhonyas
other decent ap item
finish archangels staff



Yeah, it' for people with special needs.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 00:15:50
August 31 2010 00:07 GMT
#15492
On August 31 2010 08:46 redtooth wrote:
i think sheen sucks .


On Akali or in general? I think Sheen is really solid on certain heros that can proc it frequently, like Corki can.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 31 2010 00:10 GMT
#15493
Sheen turns Nasus into a pro :|


also, in case anyone was wondering, Kennen can't handle Kat mid. You'd figure I'd've thought it out beforehand, but, well... I'm not smart sometimes.

it's my first day
Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
August 31 2010 00:16 GMT
#15494
On August 31 2010 08:46 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 08:16 Papvin wrote:
On August 31 2010 05:00 redtooth wrote:
On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.

I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage.
correct. that's why it's good on nidalee and nobody else.
:O. Dunno if you're ironic or not, but I'm sure you're a 10 times better player than me. Isn't it completely awesome on Akali? I have it as an integral component of my build, getting it after Rylai's.
the problem with akali is that she sucks in general. (...)
.

I beg to differ. Akali is a beast at what she does.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 00:20:07
August 31 2010 00:19 GMT
#15495
Kat does it better, more safely, and to more people at once. Oh, and she can voracity chain shunpo/BB/Lotus.
And with better laning and late game scaling.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 31 2010 00:20 GMT
#15496
On August 31 2010 09:16 Nafaltar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 08:46 redtooth wrote:
On August 31 2010 08:16 Papvin wrote:
On August 31 2010 05:00 redtooth wrote:
On August 31 2010 04:56 Haemonculus wrote:
To my knowledge, Lichbane proc adds your AP to your *physical* damage on your next attack.

I'm pretty sure it's not magic damage.
correct. that's why it's good on nidalee and nobody else.
:O. Dunno if you're ironic or not, but I'm sure you're a 10 times better player than me. Isn't it completely awesome on Akali? I have it as an integral component of my build, getting it after Rylai's.
the problem with akali is that she sucks in general. (...)
.
I beg to differ. Akali is a beast at what she does.
but there are so many other heroes good at what she does. teemo for example. or veigar. or malzahar. they are all good at dying too you know. some are even better than akali.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 31 2010 00:26 GMT
#15497
Is kayle a win more or change the game hero?
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TheGreenMachine
Profile Joined March 2010
United States730 Posts
August 31 2010 00:28 GMT
#15498
I played malhazar for 2nd time today, hes fun and a decent solo mid (in farming) and I got first blood with flash+ignite against a veigar. I cant seem to make him work late game though...I get focused so fast and my ult never lasts more than 0.5 seconds. My other spells do barely anything mid-late game. I dunno...he doesn't seem amazing in 5v5s
Don't forget to get everyone you know to play HOTS so this game we love called Starcraft will live on. Every little bit helps. ^^
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 31 2010 00:30 GMT
#15499
On August 31 2010 09:19 Tooplark wrote:
Kat does it better, more safely, and to more people at once. Oh, and she can voracity chain shunpo/BB/Lotus.
And with better laning and late game scaling.


Bullshit, Akali is by far a better counter to fast-escape squishies (Kassadin, Ezreal, Trist) than Kat. She just has a niche role like the old Veigar and otherwise is not very good in a tank-heavy metagame where she outputs less DPS than Garen.

And Kayle is a plus-minus-zero hero unless you're good at her.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
hellohello
Profile Joined August 2010
39 Posts
August 31 2010 00:30 GMT
#15500
On August 31 2010 04:47 redtooth wrote:
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On August 30 2010 19:21 Nailpolish wrote:
u got raped first son
i vouched for Brees's jungle ability and his knowledge about Olaf. you on the other hand made a short, ignorant, adamant statement on behalf of someone you don't even know and ended up being totally wrong when fact-checked haha.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 19:42 hellohello wrote:
On August 30 2010 17:04 redtooth wrote:
On August 30 2010 13:52 Nailpolish wrote:
lilballz max q on olaf first k
WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:02): hey
   whats your skill order
   on olaf
LilBallz (4:03): wqqe
WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:03): do you max q first?
LilBallz (4:03): E
get raped son.
Brees is a one note,he can play sion well(still worse than lilballz) and thats about it,his jungling skillz are better than ur average jungler at best but his nowhere near ball's level.Lilballz is the best jungler in game followed by Maknoob when his not drunk on soju as for what to max on Olaf first,Q is so much better than E at early levels,Q+lizard is op slow and Lilballz might max E first but that doesn't mean you should also,Chauster,Maknoob,and Finrage max Q first and so do I,it makes ganking so much more fun and with coordinated teammates it's so much better than E. my 2 cents
maknoon isn't even a dedicated jungler wtf are you talking about. Finkill doesn't even play Olaf, let alone play Olaf well, let alone play at all anymore. yet to see Chauster play Olaf but i'm sure he'd be good. actually i just checked their ranked stats and the three you've mentioned have played Olaf a total of 5 times (maknoon 1, chauster 4, finkill 0).

i've actually never seen Brees play Sion but his Olaf is solid along with the rest of his jungle heroes (ranging from shaco to BEAR STANCE). back when we were tryharding solos, we were ranked #1 and #7 with him dominating jungle and me dominating mid. there is a short list of people who i think can jungle better with any hero than Brees.


oh well this was back when i was playing regularly and panth was still viable but maknoob would insist on playing olaf so he has a back up champ in tourneys,and chauster had a boy crush on olaf and would play him in scrims,finkill used to be a good jungler(better than lilballz who only played sion at the time) but aon figured that they didn't need another rager and he got the sideline boot(especially when they already have rageinald) ranking #1 and #7 doesn't mean shit if u can't keep it up,look at sabertiger who spammed korean forums claiming "i'm not #1 cuz i play alot i'm #1 cuz i'm the best and that's all there's to it",hell even heko was ranked 13th at one point,if some1 in 1600~1700 put's off a good month or two to play constantly they can easily achieve top 1~20 rank in solo ladder

and fyi bree was never that well known for his jungling most of the times he was known as the 2nd best sion
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