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Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
August 31 2010 00:37 GMT
#15501
Wtb elite TT teams and strats so I can won free stuff at PAX.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 31 2010 00:45 GMT
#15502
On August 31 2010 09:30 hellohello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 04:47 redtooth wrote:
On August 30 2010 19:21 Nailpolish wrote:
u got raped first son
i vouched for Brees's jungle ability and his knowledge about Olaf. you on the other hand made a short, ignorant, adamant statement on behalf of someone you don't even know and ended up being totally wrong when fact-checked haha.

On August 30 2010 19:42 hellohello wrote:
On August 30 2010 17:04 redtooth wrote:
On August 30 2010 13:52 Nailpolish wrote:
lilballz max q on olaf first k
WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:02): hey
   whats your skill order
   on olaf
LilBallz (4:03): wqqe
WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:03): do you max q first?
LilBallz (4:03): E
get raped son.
Brees is a one note,he can play sion well(still worse than lilballz) and thats about it,his jungling skillz are better than ur average jungler at best but his nowhere near ball's level.Lilballz is the best jungler in game followed by Maknoob when his not drunk on soju as for what to max on Olaf first,Q is so much better than E at early levels,Q+lizard is op slow and Lilballz might max E first but that doesn't mean you should also,Chauster,Maknoob,and Finrage max Q first and so do I,it makes ganking so much more fun and with coordinated teammates it's so much better than E. my 2 cents
maknoon isn't even a dedicated jungler wtf are you talking about. Finkill doesn't even play Olaf, let alone play Olaf well, let alone play at all anymore. yet to see Chauster play Olaf but i'm sure he'd be good. actually i just checked their ranked stats and the three you've mentioned have played Olaf a total of 5 times (maknoon 1, chauster 4, finkill 0).

i've actually never seen Brees play Sion but his Olaf is solid along with the rest of his jungle heroes (ranging from shaco to BEAR STANCE). back when we were tryharding solos, we were ranked #1 and #7 with him dominating jungle and me dominating mid. there is a short list of people who i think can jungle better with any hero than Brees.


oh well this was back when i was playing regularly and panth was still viable but maknoob would insist on playing olaf so he has a back up champ in tourneys,and chauster had a boy crush on olaf and would play him in scrims,finkill used to be a good jungler(better than lilballz who only played sion at the time) but aon figured that they didn't need another rager and he got the sideline boot(especially when they already have rageinald) ranking #1 and #7 doesn't mean shit if u can't keep it up,look at sabertiger who spammed korean forums claiming "i'm not #1 cuz i play alot i'm #1 cuz i'm the best and that's all there's to it",hell even heko was ranked 13th at one point,if some1 in 1600~1700 put's off a good month or two to play constantly they can easily achieve top 1~20 rank in solo ladder

and fyi bree was never that well known for his jungling most of the times he was known as the 2nd best sion


The last sentence of your big paragraph doesn't matchup with ... well the way an Elo system works at all. You can play all the games you want, if you aren't breaking 60%(give or take your matchups making up the rating you could get away with 55ish, or need 65) you are staying put in rating. There are people at 1200 with 600 ranked games played. Anyone who ever touches #1 in an Elo based ladder is at least pretty fucking good, it's literally impossible to get there without being consistently better than the people you play with. The ONLY way around this is if you are on a ladder where the best players only queue at a certain time and you can avoid that(popular in WoW arena at the end of seasons), and in that case you better not lose a game to the horribly rated people you are playing or you tank 10 games worth of rating.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 31 2010 00:47 GMT
#15503
I think his point is (and I kinda agree with it), if you're at a certain level of play, mass-gaming can swing you into the top, like aznwiseguy's random forays into the top 25. Just because you're able to carry, and a set of RNG games can bring you up there. But then it's not indicative of how good you actually are.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
August 31 2010 00:49 GMT
#15504
On August 31 2010 09:47 Southlight wrote:
I think his point is (and I kinda agree with it), if you're at a certain level of play, mass-gaming can swing you into the top, like aznwiseguy's random forays into the top 25. Just because you're able to carry, and a set of RNG games can bring you up there. But then it's not indicative of how good you actually are.


Good rating systems account for this extraordinarily well. Luckily, Riot chose the worst known rating system for LoL.
hellohello
Profile Joined August 2010
39 Posts
August 31 2010 00:50 GMT
#15505
On August 31 2010 09:45 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 09:30 hellohello wrote:
On August 31 2010 04:47 redtooth wrote:
On August 30 2010 19:21 Nailpolish wrote:
u got raped first son
i vouched for Brees's jungle ability and his knowledge about Olaf. you on the other hand made a short, ignorant, adamant statement on behalf of someone you don't even know and ended up being totally wrong when fact-checked haha.

On August 30 2010 19:42 hellohello wrote:
On August 30 2010 17:04 redtooth wrote:
On August 30 2010 13:52 Nailpolish wrote:
lilballz max q on olaf first k
WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:02): hey
   whats your skill order
   on olaf
LilBallz (4:03): wqqe
WRAWRAWRAWRA (4:03): do you max q first?
LilBallz (4:03): E
get raped son.
Brees is a one note,he can play sion well(still worse than lilballz) and thats about it,his jungling skillz are better than ur average jungler at best but his nowhere near ball's level.Lilballz is the best jungler in game followed by Maknoob when his not drunk on soju as for what to max on Olaf first,Q is so much better than E at early levels,Q+lizard is op slow and Lilballz might max E first but that doesn't mean you should also,Chauster,Maknoob,and Finrage max Q first and so do I,it makes ganking so much more fun and with coordinated teammates it's so much better than E. my 2 cents
maknoon isn't even a dedicated jungler wtf are you talking about. Finkill doesn't even play Olaf, let alone play Olaf well, let alone play at all anymore. yet to see Chauster play Olaf but i'm sure he'd be good. actually i just checked their ranked stats and the three you've mentioned have played Olaf a total of 5 times (maknoon 1, chauster 4, finkill 0).

i've actually never seen Brees play Sion but his Olaf is solid along with the rest of his jungle heroes (ranging from shaco to BEAR STANCE). back when we were tryharding solos, we were ranked #1 and #7 with him dominating jungle and me dominating mid. there is a short list of people who i think can jungle better with any hero than Brees.


oh well this was back when i was playing regularly and panth was still viable but maknoob would insist on playing olaf so he has a back up champ in tourneys,and chauster had a boy crush on olaf and would play him in scrims,finkill used to be a good jungler(better than lilballz who only played sion at the time) but aon figured that they didn't need another rager and he got the sideline boot(especially when they already have rageinald) ranking #1 and #7 doesn't mean shit if u can't keep it up,look at sabertiger who spammed korean forums claiming "i'm not #1 cuz i play alot i'm #1 cuz i'm the best and that's all there's to it",hell even heko was ranked 13th at one point,if some1 in 1600~1700 put's off a good month or two to play constantly they can easily achieve top 1~20 rank in solo ladder

and fyi bree was never that well known for his jungling most of the times he was known as the 2nd best sion


The last sentence of your big paragraph doesn't matchup with ... well the way an Elo system works at all. You can play all the games you want, if you aren't breaking 60%(give or take your matchups making up the rating you could get away with 55ish, or need 65) you are staying put in rating. There are people at 1200 with 600 ranked games played. Anyone who ever touches #1 in an Elo based ladder is at least pretty fucking good, it's literally impossible to get there without being consistently better than the people you play with. The ONLY way around this is if you are on a ladder where the best players only queue at a certain time and you can avoid that(popular in WoW arena at the end of seasons), and in that case you better not lose a game to the horribly rated people you are playing or you tank 10 games worth of rating.


plz...you just called stope and sabertiger good by saying any1 who ever touches #1 is good....i remember stope hitting #1 with his xin zhao spam,lvl 2 lizard gank mid lol i just won the mid lane for my team,and saber got carried by judge and alilac during korean prime time when the rest of the world was sleeping and he only had to play against chinese players and retards
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 31 2010 00:51 GMT
#15506
More like it's because it's a team game IMO. Solo ranked is very unpredictable; if you're good at carrying, and you land like 15 straight games with a tank main (like Kodoku Dyrus etc.) then you'll win a pretty significant number of games just by being competent/above average despite not being Xpecial.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 31 2010 00:57 GMT
#15507
On August 31 2010 09:47 Southlight wrote:
I think his point is (and I kinda agree with it), if you're at a certain level of play, mass-gaming can swing you into the top, like aznwiseguy's random forays into the top 25. Just because you're able to carry, and a set of RNG games can bring you up there. But then it's not indicative of how good you actually are.


I'm not disagreeing with that point. I'm more making an addendum to it, that if you are able to mass game and RNG a bit to the #1 spot, you're obviously at the very least 'decent.' You have to be in position for a little win streak to pilot you to #1 rating, which means you have to be within decent striking distance of it.

I'm not(and didn't come close to implying) saying that if you hit #1 you're the best, but you're probably very much solidified in the top500, probably more like top100(and this is in a team game, on a 1v1 ladder it would be more like top 20-25).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 31 2010 01:02 GMT
#15508
That's very fine and all but the point being made by hellohello is that saying one's #1/#7 1 week into the season is comparable to saying sabertiger and stope are fantastic because they held #1, and saying heko is a top 20 player. It's not really indicative of much other than that you're "decent" but that's not what's being insinuated.

*shrugs*

Teh swinging of teh e-peens in a roundly circle.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
August 31 2010 01:04 GMT
#15509
god malphite uses up your mana like crazy. so hard to use. D:
hellohello
Profile Joined August 2010
39 Posts
August 31 2010 01:16 GMT
#15510
On August 31 2010 10:04 goldenkrnboi wrote:
god malphite uses up your mana like crazy. so hard to use. D:

mp/5 yellow runes,u'll never go back
upsales
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1 Post
August 31 2010 01:17 GMT
#15511
--- Nuked ---
Nailpolish
Profile Joined June 2010
United States56 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 01:28:42
August 31 2010 01:25 GMT
#15512
On August 31 2010 04:47 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 19:21 Nailpolish wrote:
u got raped first son
i vouched for Brees's jungle ability and his knowledge about Olaf. you on the other hand made a short, ignorant, adamant statement on behalf of someone you don't even know and ended up being totally wrong when fact-checked haha.


on behalf of someone i don't know? I guess i shouldnt of said maxxed q first, which he did a couple weeks ago, i guess he refined his skill order from then and now. i was just disagreeing with brees on his no q at all mainly. you sir are very aggressive for no reason.
Eloquent
Profile Joined July 2009
United States475 Posts
August 31 2010 01:30 GMT
#15513
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2010 09:18 shawster wrote:
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On August 30 2010 09:15 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:44 HazMat wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:40 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On August 30 2010 08:34 Phrost wrote:
On August 30 2010 07:55 ghen wrote:
Nope, that's a wraith. And I'm a dragoon. I didn't even see my 500th!

wtf when do i get hydralisk

when you can make out wtf my new display picture is <_<


I said it was a turd, or an infested terran

You're supposed to get a hydra at 500 posts, I think the mods are screwing with you.


well im the best zergling ever /flex


.


/Triple Flex.
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On August 30 2010 09:09 Southlight wrote:
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On August 30 2010 09:08 eagle wrote:
mog wai ,olaf, ezreal, kayle , taric i think


I agree totally.


I laughed so much.
Jaedong for Platnium Mouse.
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 02:04:53
August 31 2010 01:52 GMT
#15514
On August 31 2010 09:37 Rho_ wrote:
Wtb elite TT teams and strats so I can won free stuff at PAX.


I can't make it to PAX this year because of college. Please grab me a Riot Singed and/or Pax Jax code please ;_;


On topic. I'm so used to playing tougher/beefier champions I keep getting punished as Zilean for chasing when I shouldn't. Still unsure on what item order to use for him too, but hes a fun champ in general
Unprotected sex is like fast expanding in close positions. Its risky, but feels great when it works out
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 31 2010 02:06 GMT
#15515
wait how come i got a new set of people to play as o_O
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 31 2010 02:11 GMT
#15516
Free champions rotate every week, so you can try someone new without buying him.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 31 2010 02:12 GMT
#15517
oh cool more fun :D
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
August 31 2010 02:33 GMT
#15518
Whose free this week?
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 31 2010 03:08 GMT
#15519
On August 31 2010 11:33 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Whose free this week?


http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=228249

Malphite Melee DPS
Master Yi Melee DPS
Morgana Support
Ryze Mage
Singed Tank
Sivir Ranged DPS
Taric Support
Teemo Ranged DPS
Shen Tank
Malzahar Mage
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 31 2010 03:15 GMT
#15520
On August 31 2010 12:08 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 11:33 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Whose free this week?


http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=228249

Malphite Melee DPS
Master Yi Melee DPS
Morgana Support
Ryze Mage
Singed Tank
Sivir Ranged DPS
Taric Support
Teemo Ranged DPS
Shen Tank
Malzahar Mage

morg, taric, shen are free... guess who are getting ban?
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