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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 29 2010 17:04 GMT
#15241
what did they do to my malzahar? i already play him a bit in ranked, 9-2. I think he's fine personally but wouldnt mind buffs lol
Brees on in
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 17:05:22
August 29 2010 17:04 GMT
#15242
Playing poppy is fun. Move speed quint + triforce + another zeal + fast boots + paragon speed = outrunning nassus' ghost while exhausted
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 29 2010 17:07 GMT
#15243
They added suppresion (no summoner spells while stunned) to warwick, malthazar, and someone else's ult that i forget. The delay on malth's q in TR is changed to .25 seconds and range on ult is 750 from 650. To give you an idea of range, Trist is like 700 at lvl 18.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 29 2010 17:10 GMT
#15244
Weird. I played a game and the WW on the other team actually had an item called "blue pill".

I thought this was a thing of the past when recall was added? o.O;

Like it was an actual item, said it sold for 700, and the description was "press 7 at any time to return to base."

It took up an inventory slot for him any everything. Anyone seen anything like this? o.O
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
August 29 2010 17:14 GMT
#15245
I know that if you reconnnect the item portraits and descriptions can sometimes get fucked up, and you might appear to have an item that doesn't exist any more, although it still behaves the same as the item you had
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 29 2010 17:14 GMT
#15246
I had my Poison dart turn into a ? mark earlier when i was playing teemo

tbh i liked it better ._., ive yet to see the Blue Pill though
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 29 2010 17:24 GMT
#15247
i got Sage Ring, +500 mana, as a bogus item once
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 29 2010 17:30 GMT
#15248
On August 30 2010 02:24 gtrsrs wrote:
i got Sage Ring, +500 mana, as a bogus item thousand and thousands of times... oh and regen beads and dorans ring too!

story of my LoL >_>
In the woods, there lurks..
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 17:54:49
August 29 2010 17:53 GMT
#15249
EU is back again, but not really playable. I was unable to do anything during several teamfights. Which wasn't exactly to our advantage. Wriggle's Lantern + triple Zeal Xin didn't help much either.

Lag + Akali + Kassadin = instant death for Ashe TT

I usually get Sage's Rings and Fairy Charms when I reconnect. I also know the ?-Icon that replaces some spells.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Danzepol
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States211 Posts
August 29 2010 18:01 GMT
#15250
does malady proc on every hit of udyrs tiger strike?

saw an udyr just build with it, and i thought it was interesting, although definitely not worth it if it doesnt proc on all 3 hits.
in a fox with a box
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 18:04:34
August 29 2010 18:04 GMT
#15251
Nope. That would actually make tiger stance useful, and we can't have that.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 29 2010 18:09 GMT
#15252
On August 30 2010 03:04 cascades wrote:
Nope. That would actually make tiger stance useful, and we can't have that.


Yea, an ability with a 3.0 AD ratio and a 4 second cooldown is COMPLETELY useless.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
August 29 2010 18:25 GMT
#15253
On August 30 2010 01:24 -Kato- wrote:
What is the link to Hotshots stream?

this question seems to come up a lot, maybe you could put in parentheses that CLG is where hotshot streams or something in the first post southlight?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 29 2010 18:42 GMT
#15254
On August 30 2010 03:25 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 01:24 -Kato- wrote:
What is the link to Hotshots stream?

this question seems to come up a lot, maybe you could put in parentheses that CLG is where hotshot streams or something in the first post southlight?


I put it in parenthesis.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 18:55:22
August 29 2010 18:54 GMT
#15255
On August 30 2010 01:04 Shikyo wrote:
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On August 30 2010 00:39 spinesheath wrote:
On August 30 2010 00:23 gtrsrs wrote:
i've tooled around with AP ashe and it's every bit as bad as you are imagining it could be

That's one of the major points speaking for it!
AP Ashe is bad, Locket Ashe with mass auras is where it's at.
tank ashe stacking warmogs. caller isn't brave enough to play her.

On August 30 2010 03:09 APurpleCow wrote:
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On August 30 2010 03:04 cascades wrote:
Nope. That would actually make tiger stance useful, and we can't have that.
Yea, an ability with a 3.0 AD ratio and a 4 second cooldown is COMPLETELY useless.
are you disagreeing with the statement that tiger stance is useless?

On August 30 2010 02:07 mrgerry wrote:
They added suppresion (no summoner spells while stunned) to warwick, malthazar, and someone else's ult that i forget. The delay on malth's q in TR is changed to .25 seconds and range on ult is 750 from 650. To give you an idea of range, Trist is like 700 at lvl 18.
pretty sure i cleansed out of WW ult yesterday night.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 29 2010 19:08 GMT
#15256
Hey Phrost would you consider suggesting to Riot that they offer smaller packages of runepages for RP. 7 pages is absurd.
it's my first day
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 19:09:43
August 29 2010 19:09 GMT
#15257
they havent implemented suppression yet, but i would consider banning warwick once he gets it. he'll be pretty strong

he's already really strong so yea
Brees on in
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 29 2010 19:12 GMT
#15258
On August 30 2010 03:54 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 01:04 Shikyo wrote:
On August 30 2010 00:39 spinesheath wrote:
On August 30 2010 00:23 gtrsrs wrote:
i've tooled around with AP ashe and it's every bit as bad as you are imagining it could be

That's one of the major points speaking for it!
AP Ashe is bad, Locket Ashe with mass auras is where it's at.
tank ashe stacking warmogs. caller isn't brave enough to play her.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 03:09 APurpleCow wrote:
On August 30 2010 03:04 cascades wrote:
Nope. That would actually make tiger stance useful, and we can't have that.
Yea, an ability with a 3.0 AD ratio and a 4 second cooldown is COMPLETELY useless.
are you disagreeing with the statement that tiger stance is useless?

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 02:07 mrgerry wrote:
They added suppresion (no summoner spells while stunned) to warwick, malthazar, and someone else's ult that i forget. The delay on malth's q in TR is changed to .25 seconds and range on ult is 750 from 650. To give you an idea of range, Trist is like 700 at lvl 18.
pretty sure i cleansed out of WW ult yesterday night.


Tiger stance isn't useless it just takes more of an assassin playstyle instead of a teamfighter, since the ticks from the dot can crit IIRC. Tiger Stance = Single Target Assassin, Phoenix Stance = Teamfighter.

Suppression is "fixed" on the TR not live.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 29 2010 19:13 GMT
#15259
On August 30 2010 04:09 Brees wrote:
they havent implemented suppression yet, but i would consider banning warwick once he gets it. he'll be pretty strong

he's already really strong so yea



Coupling that is the (arguably massive) buff to his E by allowing him to toggle it off while he sets up a gank and I can see him being banned fairly often in the future.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 19:15:50
August 29 2010 19:14 GMT
#15260
Alright, I was willing to let the playstyle thing drop, but apparently it returned in the night. Let's go back to my original statement and make it even more clear than it was, because I know some of you have forgotten what I'm arguing in the first place. I know it. I can tell by posts drawing bizarre conclusions like this:

On August 29 2010 17:37 HeavOnEarth wrote:
@universalsnip
since u didnt see my first post(?)

your logic applies to linear statistical variables- whereas every LoL game is different, dynamic.
you should know what corners you can cut, and how bad the player is within a few seconds of poking around, your limitations and theirs.
dying before teamfights is usually a strong indicator that you have fucked up
for example

you can either play your statistical route
"if i do dragon right now what are the chances that there is a ward"
you shouldn't do dragon, ever. 0% of the time(your logic)


Here's my first post.

On August 29 2010 13:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
A note about the word playstyle.

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On August 29 2010 12:57 Phrost wrote:
Ofcourse everyone should keep in mind that runes/masteries/etc are all subject to your own playstyle. There are no "BEST" rune pages (althought some choices for individual runes are clear winners over others) everything comes down to how you play the champion with the runes you have.


This is a legitimate use. It's a warning that you shouldn't go on auto-pilot with runes anymore than you should with item builds - in other words to show adaptability so that your understanding of the game continues to grow. It's a method of exploring new ways of playing rather than an endpoint.

There's another use of playstyle that is a red flag though. Coming from mtg I've been trained to disdain it. The decision-making process in that game (and in every game) is deterministic - all else being equal, there's one right choice, period. When people want to dodge out of this, they say some nonsense about their playstyle.

This is never a good excuse because in this sense, playstyle refers to a lazy method of analysis. "I do it because it fits my playstyle" is code for "I do it because when I don't know what to do, I just do X." It shows a lack of reflection.


So what is a bad use of playstyle? It's an excuse for not looking hard for the correct play. Is the correct play always accessible? No, and it's not in mtg either. It can be realistically impossible to actually determine the correct play, or even theoretically impossible I guess - irrelevant. The point is that too often people make a decision that they should have thought about more because they have this idea that they should slot things into their playstyle, instead of looking for what's best. It's also a method people admitting a mistake retrospectively. I caught myself making this mistake recently in quake. Why did I make that terrible attack on RA when I had a low stack? I'm aggressive, I try to break control very actively. Well no, I did it because 'be aggressive and try to break control' is my shortcut for when I'm too lazy to actually decide whether a play is the best option.

There is a 'best play' that offers the best combination of reward if it works out, punishment if it fails, and probability of success. Sometimes finding it can be abstract, to the point of ridiculousness... but you should always be trying to figure whether what you have right now is it or not. A simple test is 'is this play worse than another play I could make?'

@zerg_russian: USnip, and as of a couple days ago yes.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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