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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On August 26 2010 05:36 APurpleCow wrote: Yea, I almost never get a banshee's veil. If I need MR i get merc treads+negatron cloak. I assume that doesn't do golem at level 1? What's the jungling path? Yep, that was me. Works very well IMO. BT is the best AD item for cost when stacked, and since you already have +30% AS from passive and Tiger Strike scales with AD by a fuckton, it's awesome. Not like you're going to die and lose the stacks as Udyr either. I golem at lvl 1 all the time with red pot, or I start at small golems with cloth armor just depends if I have protection, etc | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On August 26 2010 05:20 Mogwai wrote: no it's not. the top 3 items in the game are, in order: merc treads negatron cloak chain vest This, if we're not counting sight ward. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
boots1 merc treads chain vest | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On August 26 2010 05:46 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: This, if we're not counting sight ward. ew gross chain vest? It's all about that HoG. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On August 26 2010 05:43 BraveGhost wrote: I golem at lvl 1 all the time with red pot, or I start at small golems with cloth armor just depends if I have protection, etc lv1 golem becomes perfectly safe on udyr even vs some sort of delayed gank (they show up at lanes and the 2 laners closest to your golem ghost there to gank and steal it) on udyr with aspeed reds and/or cdr blues because that will allow you to stack your passive at lv 1 (cdr) or make sure you'll always shoot the phoenix 4th hit before changing stance (aspd). | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 26 2010 04:57 Mogwai wrote: most udyrs really like dodge seals to synergize with their Passive + Dodge Masteries. Yea, with Tabi boots, dodge seals and masteries you get 26% dodge chance with 3 stances. Problem is you're almost always going to get merc's. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
lots of times i find myself selling merc late game to get tabi since we are going vs a late dps like ashe or trist  | ||
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Kultcher
United States150 Posts
Today I was Kayle solo top vs. a Blitz/Sion lane. They weren't actively denying me but just the threat of Blitz's grab was enough to make me play extra cautious. The problem I run into is that even if I stand behind creeps, Blitz can just walk to the side so he can grab from that angle. Then if I try and move behind the creeps the other direction, I'm basically putting myself out further into the lane where I can easily get cut off. If I try and retreat when he moves to the side, he can still grab me because of insane range. Even with Righteous Fury I had to step into dangerous positions to get anything done. I ended up dying at about the 15 minute mark and losing the tower. Given the strength of the lane I felt I did all right (not great but given that our mid Trist was 0-4 to their Vlad I didn't feel too bad), but people were bashing me for not playing cautiously enough. I don't think that I could've played any more cautiously without just getting totally denied. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:02 Kultcher wrote: Does anyone have any tips for laning against Blitz? Today I was Kayle solo top vs. a Blitz/Sion lane. They weren't actively denying me but just the threat of Blitz's grab was enough to make me play extra cautious. The problem I run into is that even if I stand behind creeps, Blitz can just walk to the side so he can grab from that angle. Then if I try and move behind the creeps the other direction, I'm basically putting myself out further into the lane where I can easily get cut off. If I try and retreat when he moves to the side, he can still grab me because of insane range. Even with Righteous Fury I had to step into dangerous positions to get anything done. I ended up dying at about the 15 minute mark and losing the tower. Given the strength of the lane I felt I did all right (not great but given that our mid Trist was 0-4 to their Vlad I didn't feel too bad), but people were bashing me for not playing cautiously enough. I don't think that I could've played any more cautiously without just getting totally denied. that lane is monstrous and you pretty much should just tower hug and farm when they get to tower. it's not like they should be able to take down the tower vs. you camping it so I dunno why you'd even bother not tower hugging. | ||
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Kultcher
United States150 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:02 Mogwai wrote: that lane is monstrous and you pretty much should just tower hug and farm when they get to tower. it's not like they should be able to take down the tower vs. you camping it so I dunno why you'd even bother not tower hugging. I guess the idea of getting denied into uselessness was making me more reckless than I should've been. People are always saying Kayle's strength comes with farming, so I didn't want to transition into the mid-game underfarmed and leveled. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Brambled
United States750 Posts
So any advice on item builds and late game playstyle? **Edit- Also do I need to be level 30 with full mastery points/runes before I can effectively start out jungling? | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Kultcher
United States150 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:11 Mogwai wrote: well, how well were they actually denying you? like, were they pushing into your tower? I would expect you to be underfarmed vs. that lane, but I would expect that you could stay on track with levels relatively safely. They didn't try and zone me out by putting themselves between me and my creeps, but they didn't push the lane too much or they ended up hard pushing it so the waves reset. Anyway, I guess maybe the lesson is just that I shouldn't be so afraid of missing out on farm against a lane like that. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:24 Kultcher wrote: They didn't try and zone me out by putting themselves between me and my creeps, but they didn't push the lane too much or they ended up hard pushing it so the waves reset. Anyway, I guess maybe the lesson is just that I shouldn't be so afraid of missing out on farm against a lane like that. Lane domination lanes are designed to win 2v2 and fuck up 2v1. I guess it's just your first time playing against such a lane that was played to their strengths. Against a Kass/Soraka for instance we won't touch the creep; it'll bounce all the way to our tower, and you'll miss like 50%+ of your exp. And there is jackall you can do about it. | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
I joined a 3v3 ranked game, my turn to pick, i get some endless load when I select my hero and then my game crashes. I lose 1 win and and I gain a loss/leave so went from 3-0 to 2-1. Thank you Riot. Oh and don't say "its a free game" cause I paid for something once so that makes that arguement void. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:26 Southlight wrote: Lane domination lanes are designed to win 2v2 and fuck up 2v1. I guess it's just your first time playing against such a lane that was played to their strengths. Against a Kass/Soraka for instance we won't touch the creep; it'll bounce all the way to our tower, and you'll miss like 50%+ of your exp. And there is jackall you can do about it. holy shit, were you in that one game where Steve and I were playing Kennen and Pantheon and we zoned the opposing Morg so hard that she was still level 3 by the time we both hit 5? lol that was so fucking savage. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
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