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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:02 Kultcher wrote: Does anyone have any tips for laning against Blitz? you can't 1v2 against a blitz/x lane you just can't. you'll get no farm, exp denied, and depending on the other champ. lose the tower. if it's a 1vBlitz+1, just ask for your bi-lane to switch with you, or ask one of them to join you to make it a 2v2 | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:33 Mogwai wrote: holy shit, were you in that one game where Steve and I were playing Kennen and Pantheon and we zoned the opposing Morg so hard that she was still level 3 by the time we both hit 5? lol that was so fucking savage. No but the game I lost with Yiru and HSGG this morning I was level 7 and their Trist was like 5 with 1/3 my cs it was pretty funny (and sad that we lost that anyways). | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:26 Southlight wrote: on a side note, did you know soraka can deny? haha.Lane domination lanes are designed to win 2v2 and fuck up 2v1. I guess it's just your first time playing against such a lane that was played to their strengths. Against a Kass/Soraka for instance we won't touch the creep; it'll bounce all the way to our tower, and you'll miss like 50%+ of your exp. And there is jackall you can do about it. + Show Spoiler + i forget who but either Wreckedem or AllisterAP figured it out during one of our WCG games. he was like "oh shit i can heal a creep to mess up their last hitting". and then he did it like twice and we were all happy. soraka imbaaaaaaaa. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:39 redtooth wrote: on a side note, did you know soraka can deny? haha. explain that's not what denying is. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
Denying has many levels. Complete denying is what raise morale does. XP+$ denying is fully zoning your opponent so the creeps kill each other out of range. $ denying is what he's talking about where they just don't get last hits. Don't get all elitist and say DotA denying is the only way the term should be used  On August 26 2010 06:43 Brees wrote: is the negatron cloak some kind of inside joke? surely you guys know the hp to mr/armor ideal ratios? its why im such a pro with udyr Please explain because I for one have no idea what you're talking about. edit2: Is the authentication server down? I can't log in. edit3: yeah, forums confirm server is down. Also Urgot causes game crashes among other things | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:44 ghen wrote: Denying has many levels. Complete denying is what raise morale does. XP+$ denying is fully zoning your opponent so the creeps kill each other out of range. $ denying is what he's talking about where they just don't get last hits. Don't get all elitist and say DotA denying is the only way the term should be used well if he was talking about "experience denying" then he wouldn't have even mentioned it, because that's referred to as "zoning" (as you said) and any champ can do it. it's not like soraka doesn't have the ability to keep enemy champs off creeps denying refers to killing your own creeps to prevent the enemy champ from getting the gold or the experience that they would have received if the creep died to a fatal blow from the enemy champ healing a creep is not denying anything. they'll get the experience when it dies 1 or 2 hits later, and in fact you're just giving them more chances to last hit and preventing them from pushing if you heal your creeps, so all in all this was a retarded discussion that being said, the ability to heal a siege creep that is under tower fire, while your team focuses the tower, is a nice niche ability | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:15 Brambled wrote: So anyone have any advice with Warwick? I love his ability to chase down people and catch people 1v1. Late game when group fights are more common i can typically get 1 person dead or near-death before I get splattered. So any advice on item builds and late game playstyle? **Edit- Also do I need to be level 30 with full mastery points/runes before I can effectively start out jungling? with warwick no, you do not have to be level 30 with runes to effectively jungle, although as with any character, it is easier when you have them. when i play warwick i either open Longsword+Hp pot and go to mini golems, or i open sight ward, cloth armor, and hp pots, and start at mana golem(depending on threat level from the enemy team for a early junglegank) if i start at mini golems i open up with W, if i start at mana i open with Q, at level 2 i take whichever of those i didnt take at level 1, at level 3 i get Q again, and at level 4 i dont spend my point yet(i use it in E for a speed boost, but i wait to level it until i start a gank so it doesnt give away positioning if they are already low) just remember E is a double edged sword, you can see them and run faster, but they know you're near as well and either run back to tower or countergank you. generally i try to gank once i have lizard buff, and whether or not you succeed, you can still help give lane dominance to your teammates, when i have enough money i go back to base and get razors, and level 1 boots for the rest of the game just make sure you're dragoning whenever its up and not too risky, ganking when opportunistic, covering lanes, etc. the normal jungle stuff my skill build is usually R>Q>E>W (except for that first point in W earlygame) i usually will build my boots into merc treads, although when this happens in the game entirely depends on who the enemy team is made up of, which also greatly effects which tanky items i get(i always build bloodrazor+full tank items)when i finish bloodrazors vs. getting tank items also depends on the teams and how the game is going, GA is good, Force of nature is usefull MR(and extra move speed), as is banshees veil, heavy auto attackers get thornmail, just general tanky items later game in teamfights i generally try to Q on cooldown, stay alive, and ult a target if a stun is needed on them, in teamfights always remember your ult is interruptable so dont count on it for damage, just use it as a stun/closer if you need to catch one of them before they get into a safe location away from your team. if im not taking a lot of damage ill try to smack whoever i can for the bloodrazor damage(and lizard slow if you have it) if you are taking a lot of damage try to use your speed(from E) to dodge as much damage as possible while darting in and out using Q to stay alive and whittle them down(since it does 20% of their hp before MR ) Edit: remind me what i forgot smash and utahhhh! | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 26 2010 06:15 Brambled wrote: So anyone have any advice with Warwick? I love his ability to chase down people and catch people 1v1. Late game when group fights are more common i can typically get 1 person dead or near-death before I get splattered. So any advice on item builds and late game playstyle? **Edit- Also do I need to be level 30 with full mastery points/runes before I can effectively start out jungling? edit: pwnt by turkey, only thing ill add, is you wanna buffwhore for quite a while unless some1 else needs mana golem more than you (heimer, kayle and karthus come to mind immediately but there are others too), but you should be able to take it just fine the first 2-3 times | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On August 26 2010 05:37 NB wrote: we just need black king bar and problem solved  then you'll come back crying about how OP yi is with highlander + youmumus + ghost + BKB activation. I enjoy playing cookiecutters in this current stage of LET'S GET LOTSA TANK ITEMS. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
altho, 2x bkb would be kinda cool, be un-cc'able forever *strokes chin* | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On August 26 2010 07:07 Mogwai wrote: *shrugs* looks like you covered it pretty well to me turkey. Sunfire is worth mentioning on him IMO, but at the same time, his effective HP is already so high from his self-heals that stacking Armor and mRes is typically better than giving a flying fuck about HP. GA should be almost always your first tanking item on him for that reason IMO and then after that you could probably just stack chain vest and negatron and be good for the rest of the game. I still see a lot of WWs that I respect going Sunfire after GA though, so w/e, I think it's at least noteworthy. yea i forgot to mention sunfire, i was just throwing out a blanket statement to tank items mostly | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 26 2010 07:08 barbsq wrote: also bkb would put olaf next to the curb side, since that's basically what his ult is altho, 2x bkb would be kinda cool, be un-cc'able forever *strokes chin* yea, because it's already so much fun playing against Olaf -_-' it's not like he's imba or anything, but it is frustrating when I do my ability and it yields an unexpected result. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 26 2010 07:08 barbsq wrote: also bkb would put olaf next to the curb side, since that's basically what his ult is altho, 2x bkb would be kinda cool, be un-cc'able forever *strokes chin* Get multiple Quicksilver Sashes, like the fucking Shen vs Galio. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
......................... kicked me out of a ranked game  , can't get back on | ||
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