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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On August 17 2010 13:11 Tooplark wrote: Uuuuugh most agonizing loss in a while. Bunch of TL people unranked queuing. We have Zilean solo top against Ezreal Blitzcrank Veigar mid against Janna Shen Ashe bot against Jax Vladimir (I think it was Vlad) and Olaf jungle. Things start off not so well; all our lanes are losing, and mid dies right before I can gank. I get the kill on Janna, but die to tower. Zilean survives admirably, while bot has troubles and gets ganked by Janna less than 20 seconds before I arrive, with Jax barely living due to shield and two of us dying. Whoever survives holds the turret, and we enter the midgame slightly behind. No one has done dragon until Janna and someone try around the 15 minute mark but I steal it. I fail another gank (HATE janna); we lose a few teamfights. Veigar is starting to shine now, however, and I have begun constructing mallet. Currently, it's 25 minutes and we are sans all the outer turrets and inner mid, having taken only outer bot ourselves. They grabbed dragon too fast for anyone to stop, so we're even there, and we're behind about 5 kills. Fortunately, most of their kills are Janna's. We win the next teamfight, but don't have the momentum to push them Then we ace them and get an inhibitor. Then we ace them again (but after zil got hooked), and lose all but Ashe and Shen, who are currently in no position to push because their Ezreal is almost alive again. So, when we get the second inhibitor down, the game turns around again. Our only tank, Shen, has basically lost most of his power, while Jax has finally hit his LEET DEEPS at about 40 minutes in. I can still go toe to toe with him... but they've wised up and are now ignoring me. Jax flattens Ashe Zilean and Veigar (who only takes off 2/3 of his health now, half of which Janna heals back up). Shen can no longer effectively stop him. I chase Ezreal around, usually kill him if Janna doesn't focus on stopping me, and promptly die. From there, they push down an inhibitor, take baron, and push all the way into our base, killing one nexus turret and getting the other to half health. We turn it around, acing them, though at the cost of everyone but Ashe and Shen. Zilean ports in to help and they kill both exposed inhibs, escaping with no casualties... that is, until Zilean gets hooked in middle. With him dead, I die in seconds to triple elixir Jax and our team melts just as quickly. Game over. oh Olaf also has some problems when the enemy team has 3 exhausts Yeah.. i'm used to tankier champs >_< Need to get used to this 'I actually die in the span of a silence' thing  . Maybe once I learn how to ACTUALLY PLAY Zilean, i'll play with you guys again?edit: I shoulda bought Banshee's before Zhonya's, I didn't realize that you never get a chance to use it on a Blitz pull if he has knockup queued :/ | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 17 2010 13:22 Athos wrote: He better not come with dragoon AI hahaha i lol'd. i like the way you think sir. oh and swapping positions, thats really original and creative. i havent seen that one before... oh wait >_< but itll be interesting with his other abilities i guess. to solve the tank metagame... put in another tank that can put your squishy right in the middle of the opponents team and slowed. awesome. | ||
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rredtooth
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
That would actually be a funny way to balance it | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
loooool i hate these new heroes not going to lie, and this guy sounds totally op given the games current tanky metagame. 250 damage 1.5 second cd skillshot with a lockdown, vs ulti with a +armor added. god damnit | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 17 2010 09:32 Shikyo wrote: Hey btw, I got this now to continue the APM discussion: ![[image loading]](http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2489/123456fb.jpg) I would suspect average APM for a Heroes of Newerth player would be higher than a League of Legends player. Last hitting is a much more involved process with denying. I don't know what I hit in LoL, but my average APM for HoN is 149, it's not effective APM by any means, I just like to make sure I have high precision control of my character... constantly. | ||
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EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 17 2010 13:18 Fishcakes wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7471/urgot.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4432/c4398039ccd86cf1a34d08c.jpg) Well thats one way to bring ez down from top tier, Riot is honestly retarded. The only thing that keeps vengeful spirit remotely balanced is the fact that there is an extremely high chance swapping kills her as well. Add reduction to an already imbalanced ult concept and you get another broken hero. I like that they add heroes or whatever, but they really need to slow down if they want a quality game. I've only played a handful of games with galio, probably around 10 and noticed several game breaking bugs that can happen with his ultimate. An example: If you pop ww ult on a target and get hit by galio's ultimate, ww's damage disappears... I'm not sure where it goes, but it certainly doesn't go on his target. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On August 17 2010 13:44 redtooth wrote: TL BANNER LOCKDOWN?!?!?!?! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On August 17 2010 14:47 keV. wrote: An example: If you pop ww ult on a target and get hit by galio's ultimate, ww's damage disappears... I'm not sure where it goes, but it certainly doesn't go on his target. Doesn't it just make sense that the taunt interrupted WW's ult? | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 17 2010 13:44 redtooth wrote: TL BANNER LOCKDOWN?!?!?!?! Oh, I so know what is coming. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 17 2010 14:53 TieN.nS) wrote: Doesn't it just make sense that the taunt interrupted WW's ult? Taunt isn't a stun. If you do testing yourself, you will find that ww becomes stunned, not what a taunt is supposed to do. If the damage went to Galio then maybe I wouldn't care, but what appears to happen is ww just stands there doing no damage (to anyone, including Galio) and is unable to move until Galio's ult finishes. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 17 2010 15:02 TieN.nS) wrote: Ah, well I don't own Galio and it just occurred to me that I've only ever stunned Warwick out of his ult and haven't tried taunting him out of it yet. That does sound buggy, but I'd expect that WW would have his ult interrupted and just autoattack Galio if anything. That would be tolerable, when your character just freezes and does nothings, its quite infuriating. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 17 2010 15:04 red_ wrote: ROFL at bringing over a buffed version of VS ult, dear god help that champs permaban status if it has anywhere even close to the range that Nether Swap did(aka, fucking infinity at lvl 16, or that's what it sure felt like). So... so.... so fucking true. LETS ADD REDUCTION AND A SLOW TOO. This is a nice reminder of just how imbalanced DotA was with Guinsoo at the helm. | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I think the idea of this hero popping up in the tournies that are currently going on is hilarious. And while he may seem OP based on the descriptions of his abilities we still need to see him in action before anything. We don't know the ranges and casting times of each ability and also that's him at level 18. He doesn't look like an easy hero to level up and farm with. He is freakin' ugly, though. I probably won't use him. EDIT: Oh, also, does anyone know if health regen runes will help me jungle? I mean, I know they'll help, but will they allow, say, Akali or Yi to jungle faster by not having to b? | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On August 17 2010 15:14 Scamp wrote: When opponents cleanse out of WW's ult he just stands there like an idiot. I imagine this Galio thing works in a similar fashion. I think the idea of this hero popping up in the tournies that are currently going on is hilarious. And while he may seem OP based on the descriptions of his abilities we still need to see him in action before anything. We don't know the ranges and casting times of each ability and also that's him at level 18. He doesn't look like an easy hero to level up and farm with. He is freakin' ugly, though. I probably won't use him. If that is indeed his passive that was thrown up a few posts ago, he's going to be a beast mode jungler(aoe armor redux+damage, reduced damage done from enemies you attack). Also if he does have to lane, he may not have 'clear creep wave instantly' moves, but I see no reason why he'll have problems last hitting with a low mana low cooldown projectile attack(think of ez players that use MS to last hit against scary mid opponents). That projectile also doubles as a red buff if you try to attack him while he has his shield up lolz. Again, I won't call 'OP' on the whole champ package without seeing him, but that ult is going to be BANANAS for any carry(already become rare breeds because everything fucks them over lately), and there is no indication of the champ having glaring weaknesses outside of that(the one knock is that his only disable is his ult, but lord knows there's plenty of tank friends he can party with to stun dudes for him). Edit: I will also concede(thank GOD) that his ult has a healthy cooldown, something that was sorely missing on VS's in DotA(did I mention I fucking hated that ult?). | ||
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