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On August 17 2010 15:57 ggrrg wrote:My new favorite hero: Veigar! Reason: Just had the funniest game ever! Long story, short - in an hour long game I managed to get Veigar to ~850 AP! In addition I had Deathfire Grasp and Lich Bane. Fights happen something along the lines: stun Annie, W, Q = dead deathfire + ulti on heima = dead auto-attack ashe = half dead + ally dmg = dead Basically I could 2-combo kill every hero on the enemy team (including Akali) except for Rammus, for whom I need 3 spells and auto-attack. With max. CDR at 40% spamming spells wasn't an issue and Lich Bane every few seconds led to incredible amounts of damage. I actually peaked at ~950 AP few minutes before the game ended after killing Nashor and while my last bril pot lasted. p.s. in case somebody doesn't know Veigar's W and R have an 1:1 AP:dmg ratio, which meant that W did 320+850 dmg and ulti 500+850+enemy's AP (heima and annie were raking up AP^^) Q did "only" 260+0.7*850 dmg. Deathfire effectively demolished about half of any heroes hp and lich bane meant an auto-attack equal to my AP = 900 dmg ^^ + Show Spoiler +
The game was nothing special. Neither my team nor the enemy team had any especially good players, but it was still an awesome fun to just destroy every enemy hero in the blink of an eye.
Blasphemy, Veigar is awful
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On August 17 2010 16:45 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.
Best defence is offence imo.
/discuss
I disagree, I usually get GA and/or banshee after bloodrazor and it helps me so much in teamfights. The biggest advantage I think is that you can initiate with your ult w/o dying instantly.
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On August 17 2010 16:45 Khul Sadukar wrote:
I should prob switch to janna, she's one of the champs that came on the digital pack.
Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.
Best defence is offence imo.
/discuss
You should seriously try my(and some others'..) standard WW build of Bloodrazor/Wit's End. Gives both resistances to make you a little bit more durable, makes your ulti hit like an absolute truck, and enables you to destroy any Dragon or Baron in mere seconds. After that, I'd get some more tankyness and a Bloodthirster.
On August 17 2010 20:07 Pakje wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 16:45 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.
Best defence is offence imo.
/discuss I disagree, I usually get GA and/or banshee after bloodrazor and it helps me so much in teamfights. The biggest advantage I think is that you can initiate with your ult w/o dying instantly.
Who initiates with his ulti? Just running in and attacking stuff is about 9001 times better, ulti is a finisher or a sniping skill that you use after the fight has gone on for a while.
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On August 17 2010 20:10 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 20:07 Pakje wrote:On August 17 2010 16:45 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.
Best defence is offence imo.
/discuss I disagree, I usually get GA and/or banshee after bloodrazor and it helps me so much in teamfights. The biggest advantage I think is that you can initiate with your ult w/o dying instantly. Who initiates with his ulti? Just running in and attacking stuff is about 9001 times better, ulti is a finisher or a sniping skill that you use after the fight has gone on for a while.
I forgot to mention I only do it when a squishy is caught out of position.
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On August 17 2010 19:31 gdroxor wrote:
gdroxor's Law of Names:
At least one person per team per game will have a name with excessive x's, e.g. xXzzephirothXx, and one with a weed reference, e.g. Superdoobie420 haha. i take pride in having one of the most obnoxious names in the game. it's up there with the jiji/ballz smurfs (pu33y and pussy or something), pppppppppppp, and 31415927 (or something like that, his name was basically pi).
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On August 17 2010 21:09 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 19:31 gdroxor wrote:
gdroxor's Law of Names:
At least one person per team per game will have a name with excessive x's, e.g. xXzzephirothXx, and one with a weed reference, e.g. Superdoobie420 haha. i take pride in having one of the most obnoxious names in the game. it's up there with the jiji/ballz smurfs (pu33y and pussy or something), pppppppppppp, and 31415927 (or something like that, his name was basically pi).
You forgot "BILL AND TEDS EXCELLENT"
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The best name in everything is always when capital I and lower case l look the same so you can be IlIlIlIl (ilililil)
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On August 17 2010 21:30 mikku wrote:
The best name in everything is always when capital I and lower case l look the same so you can be IlIlIlIl (ilililil)
Better is premading with friends who all do that, but with different order of lowercase i's and uppercase L's so it looks like 5 of the same person.
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On August 17 2010 21:35 SBelmont wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 21:30 mikku wrote:
The best name in everything is always when capital I and lower case l look the same so you can be IlIlIlIl (ilililil) Better is premading with friends who all do that, but with different order of lowercase i's and uppercase L's so it looks like 5 of the same person.
No the best is solo queueing in unranked into 4 sailor moon characters and wanting to shoot yourself.
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On August 17 2010 20:10 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 16:45 Khul Sadukar wrote:
I should prob switch to janna, she's one of the champs that came on the digital pack.
Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.
Best defence is offence imo.
/discuss You should seriously try my(and some others'..) standard WW build of Bloodrazor/Wit's End. Gives both resistances to make you a little bit more durable, makes your ulti hit like an absolute truck, and enables you to destroy any Dragon or Baron in mere seconds. After that, I'd get some more tankyness and a Bloodthirster.
Um, a few hundred pages back i was swearing by Wits End. I was trying something different out recently.
Think i'll go for Wits End/GA after bloodrazor/mercs and then a BT (if I can afford it by then before GG). I have a terrible time making enough money in games for things (from ppl just farming my jungle for no reason & getting kills stolen sigh)
Thats why im leaning towards getting early damage item so I can rack up the kills and buy shit. Some matches i just feel utterly broke the whole time.
Edit: A few matches ago I had a game where I ended up with Bloodrazor, 2 BT and a wits end. Hahaha. Think that was when i was doing 300+dmg to the nexus. Good times 
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On August 17 2010 21:45 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 21:35 SBelmont wrote:On August 17 2010 21:30 mikku wrote:
The best name in everything is always when capital I and lower case l look the same so you can be IlIlIlIl (ilililil) Better is premading with friends who all do that, but with different order of lowercase i's and uppercase L's so it looks like 5 of the same person. No the best is solo queueing in unranked into 4 sailor moon characters and wanting to shoot yourself.
I played against them from when I was a lowbie till I was a highbie, those guys are everywhere.
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On August 17 2010 21:45 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 21:35 SBelmont wrote:On August 17 2010 21:30 mikku wrote:
The best name in everything is always when capital I and lower case l look the same so you can be IlIlIlIl (ilililil) Better is premading with friends who all do that, but with different order of lowercase i's and uppercase L's so it looks like 5 of the same person. No the best is solo queueing in unranked into 4 sailor moon characters and wanting to shoot yourself.
thats pretty hilarious especially if they are just trolling/smurfing. my vote is for WRAWRAWRAWRA thats a pretty fantastic ID.
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On August 17 2010 15:57 ggrrg wrote:My new favorite hero: Veigar! Reason: Just had the funniest game ever! Long story, short - in an hour long game I managed to get Veigar to ~850 AP! In addition I had Deathfire Grasp and Lich Bane. Fights happen something along the lines: stun Annie, W, Q = dead deathfire + ulti on heima = dead auto-attack ashe = half dead + ally dmg = dead Basically I could 2-combo kill every hero on the enemy team (including Akali) except for Rammus, for whom I need 3 spells and auto-attack. With max. CDR at 40% spamming spells wasn't an issue and Lich Bane every few seconds led to incredible amounts of damage. I actually peaked at ~950 AP few minutes before the game ended after killing Nashor and while my last bril pot lasted. p.s. in case somebody doesn't know Veigar's W and R have an 1:1 AP:dmg ratio, which meant that W did 320+850 dmg and ulti 500+850+enemy's AP (heima and annie were raking up AP^^) Q did "only" 260+0.7*850 dmg. Deathfire effectively demolished about half of any heroes hp and lich bane meant an auto-attack equal to my AP = 900 dmg ^^ + Show Spoiler +
The game was nothing special. Neither my team nor the enemy team had any especially good players, but it was still an awesome fun to just destroy every enemy hero in the blink of an eye.
a poppy with 7k gold would still kill you haha. go poppy!!!
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also, reginaid haha. what a trickster.
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On August 17 2010 21:56 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 15:57 ggrrg wrote:My new favorite hero: Veigar! Reason: Just had the funniest game ever! Long story, short - in an hour long game I managed to get Veigar to ~850 AP! In addition I had Deathfire Grasp and Lich Bane. Fights happen something along the lines: stun Annie, W, Q = dead deathfire + ulti on heima = dead auto-attack ashe = half dead + ally dmg = dead Basically I could 2-combo kill every hero on the enemy team (including Akali) except for Rammus, for whom I need 3 spells and auto-attack. With max. CDR at 40% spamming spells wasn't an issue and Lich Bane every few seconds led to incredible amounts of damage. I actually peaked at ~950 AP few minutes before the game ended after killing Nashor and while my last bril pot lasted. p.s. in case somebody doesn't know Veigar's W and R have an 1:1 AP:dmg ratio, which meant that W did 320+850 dmg and ulti 500+850+enemy's AP (heima and annie were raking up AP^^) Q did "only" 260+0.7*850 dmg. Deathfire effectively demolished about half of any heroes hp and lich bane meant an auto-attack equal to my AP = 900 dmg ^^ + Show Spoiler +
The game was nothing special. Neither my team nor the enemy team had any especially good players, but it was still an awesome fun to just destroy every enemy hero in the blink of an eye.
a poppy with 7k gold would still kill you haha. go poppy!!! not when she's banned haha.
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My brother and I have a trio of smurfs for 3v3 - Rocket.Jessie, Rocket.James, and Rocket.Meowth
We quote the motto at the start of each game.
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On August 17 2010 21:46 Khul Sadukar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 20:10 Shikyo wrote:On August 17 2010 16:45 Khul Sadukar wrote:
I should prob switch to janna, she's one of the champs that came on the digital pack.
Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.
Best defence is offence imo.
/discuss You should seriously try my(and some others'..) standard WW build of Bloodrazor/Wit's End. Gives both resistances to make you a little bit more durable, makes your ulti hit like an absolute truck, and enables you to destroy any Dragon or Baron in mere seconds. After that, I'd get some more tankyness and a Bloodthirster. Um, a few hundred pages back i was swearing by Wits End. I was trying something different out recently. Think i'll go for Wits End/GA after bloodrazor/mercs and then a BT (if I can afford it by then before GG). I have a terrible time making enough money in games for things (from ppl just farming my jungle for no reason & getting kills stolen sigh) Thats why im leaning towards getting early damage item so I can rack up the kills and buy shit. Some matches i just feel utterly broke the whole time. Edit: A few matches ago I had a game where I ended up with Bloodrazor, 2 BT and a wits end. Hahaha. Think that was when i was doing 300+dmg to the nexus. Good times
In the current tank metagame you really don't want to be building glass cannon warwick, a lot of the time I don't even finish bloodrazors before getting tank items like sunfire/GA/FoN/Banshees. Seriously, your Q does so much damage and gives you so much HP back that having a ton of HP and armor/MR is pretty much superior to being able to remove one champion from the fight. You still have your ult disable, you still have a ton of damage, but being tanky enough to survive in a fight with garen/amumu/morgana/rammus/shen while taking away 20% of their hp with your super low cooldown Q is totally worth it. Lots of the time jungle tankwick goes godlike midgame just because he's able to stay in the fight and abuse blood scent/Q.
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Also I figured out that jungling with Chogath is the fucking sauce, he's able to keep up with and sometimes outlevel the solo lanes plus showing up in a lane with rupture/double buffs means that if you hit an auto-attack or a rupture it's game over for the other champ. Then at level 6 you show up with double buffs/feast and wtf so sick, double kills all over the place. On top of that at 15 minutes I usually have a RoA from jungling and transition into unkillable chogath for the mid push.
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fuck this, got drag all the way back to 1185.... FML
if you play games during office hour or sleeping hour, MM gives you LOTs of idiots
else, every 2 wins they give you a stupid team to drag you down
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