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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 17 2010 06:48 GMT
#12661
On August 17 2010 13:22 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 13:18 Fishcakes wrote:
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Well thats one way to bring ez down from top tier,


He better not come with dragoon AI

omfg, i LOLed hardcore =)))))))))))))))))))))))
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 17 2010 06:57 GMT
#12662
My new favorite hero: Veigar!
Reason: Just had the funniest game ever!

Long story, short - in an hour long game I managed to get Veigar to ~850 AP!
In addition I had Deathfire Grasp and Lich Bane.
Fights happen something along the lines:
stun Annie, W, Q = dead
deathfire + ulti on heima = dead
auto-attack ashe = half dead + ally dmg = dead
Basically I could 2-combo kill every hero on the enemy team (including Akali) except for Rammus, for whom I need 3 spells and auto-attack.
With max. CDR at 40% spamming spells wasn't an issue and Lich Bane every few seconds led to incredible amounts of damage.
I actually peaked at ~950 AP few minutes before the game ended after killing Nashor and while my last bril pot lasted.

p.s. in case somebody doesn't know Veigar's W and R have an 1:1 AP:dmg ratio, which meant that W did 320+850 dmg and ulti 500+850+enemy's AP (heima and annie were raking up AP^^)
Q did "only" 260+0.7*850 dmg. Deathfire effectively demolished about half of any heroes hp and lich bane meant an auto-attack equal to my AP = 900 dmg ^^

+ Show Spoiler +

The game was nothing special. Neither my team nor the enemy team had any especially good players, but it was still an awesome fun to just destroy every enemy hero in the blink of an eye.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 07:27:31
August 17 2010 07:08 GMT
#12663
Do you believe in changing mains on first play? I think I might. Janna is one sexy champion.

I like to counter pick her against an Amumu. They had Galio and Amumu and their ults were basically worthless with her knock up and ultimate. It was just an optimal champion pick and my team was also smart enough to pick cleanse. I should've taken a screen shot. Most people around 1500-1600 wouldn't believe a team could exist in the 1400-1500 range that didn't have 5 ignites.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 17 2010 07:09 GMT
#12664
Your new favorite hero is one of the worst in the game!
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 07:27:36
August 17 2010 07:16 GMT
#12665
I need a new rune project. Here's what I have:


9 Greater Seal of Evasion (yellow flat dodge)
9 Greater Seal of Vitality (yellow health/level)

9 Greater Glyph of Vitality (blue health/level)
9 Greater Glyph of Focus (blue flat CDR)

9 Greater Mark of Insight (red flat magic pen)
9 Greater Mark of Desolation (red flat armor pen)

3 Greater Quintessence of Fortitude (purple flat health)
3 Greater Quintessence of Furor (purple flat crit damage)

What is the next "all purpose" or "best buy" I should go for? Leaning towards Quint of move speed as I jungle a lot and I also play Garen a fair amount... Any recommendations?
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 17 2010 07:24 GMT
#12666
Im pretty sure he was talking about the viegar comment and not the janna comment, janna is really good on the right teams/played well
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 17 2010 07:27 GMT
#12667
On August 17 2010 16:09 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Your new favorite hero is one of the worst in the game!


Just in case your post is targeted at mine.
I never commented on how good Veigar is. Especially early game, it's a pain in the ass to play him, but the fun grows exponentially towards the end. I just play normal games and I can't even play ladder yet. I have not idea how useful Veigar is against good opponents, but it doesn't change the fact that in low level play, he is fun to fool around with.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 17 2010 07:28 GMT
#12668
On August 17 2010 16:24 BraveGhost wrote:
Im pretty sure he was talking about the viegar comment and not the janna comment, janna is really good on the right teams/played well


Yes, you are most probably correct. Massive ninja edit has ensued!
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 17 2010 07:30 GMT
#12669
On August 17 2010 16:27 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 16:09 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Your new favorite hero is one of the worst in the game!


Just in case your post is targeted at mine.
I never commented on how good Veigar is. Especially early game, it's a pain in the ass to play him, but the fun grows exponentially towards the end. I just play normal games and I can't even play ladder yet. I have not idea how useful Veigar is against good opponents, but it doesn't change the fact that in low level play, he is fun to fool around with.


Personally, I'm mixed on Veigar. I think he is extremely powerful if he can manage to keep himself in perfect position all game long, which is pretty much impossible based on what I know about this game.

I think he could use some tuning for sure. However, I think event horizon is one of the most powerful spells in the game.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 07:46:27
August 17 2010 07:45 GMT
#12670
I should prob switch to janna, she's one of the champs that came on the digital pack.

Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.

Best defence is offence imo.

/discuss
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Jaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 07:51:06
August 17 2010 07:50 GMT
#12671
On August 17 2010 16:16 keV. wrote:
I need a new rune project. Here's what I have:


9 Greater Seal of Evasion (yellow flat dodge)
9 Greater Seal of Vitality (yellow health/level)

9 Greater Glyph of Vitality (blue health/level)
9 Greater Glyph of Focus (blue flat CDR)

9 Greater Mark of Insight (red flat magic pen)
9 Greater Mark of Desolation (red flat armor pen)

3 Greater Quintessence of Fortitude (purple flat health)
3 Greater Quintessence of Furor (purple flat crit damage)

What is the next "all purpose" or "best buy" I should go for? Leaning towards Quint of move speed as I jungle a lot and I also play Garen a fair amount... Any recommendations?


Greater Seal of Clarity (mp5/level)
Greater Glyph of Clarity (mp5/level)
Greater Glyph of Shielding (MR/level)

Clarity runes are really really good.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 17 2010 08:14 GMT
#12672
Not really a good game but I think Phrost has a different perspective of it (via stream), so I thought it'd be a fun share. Yeah I was lagging like crazy the whole game, I dunno why.





oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 17 2010 08:30 GMT
#12673
Lol not too long ago some dudes in liquid party were talking shit about playing with me
now, one of them is -4 and below 1200 meanwhile I just queued against the legendary SMASHGIZMO

lesson- stop talking shit and play
second lesson- Sbelmont is overlooked but is one of the best players in tl, IMO. He's helped me climb about 150 points in duo queue
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 17 2010 08:45 GMT
#12674
On August 17 2010 16:16 keV. wrote:
rune stuff
scaling mp5 seals/glyphs
scaling mres seals/glyphs
movspeed quints
aPen quints

after that, runepages (i'm still saving for my first one zzzz) and versatile heroes
some heroes require special runes (udyr = aspd marks/quints)
but outside of that you're pretty set on runes
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 17 2010 08:46 GMT
#12675
match making at night is really bad, if they cant find anyone in your elo: they pick the one BELOW your elo, and by below, i mean he has only 2 wins so far..........
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
August 17 2010 09:12 GMT
#12676
On August 17 2010 16:45 Khul Sadukar wrote:
I should prob switch to janna, she's one of the champs that came on the digital pack.

Last night I deviated from the dual bloodthirsters build and promptly died. I strongly believe its pointless getting magic resist over damage on WW since if u get focused ur dead anyway. no matter how many items I buy he doesn't feel tanky at all. He only survives from hunger + passive and lifesteal/dps of BT augments that. I'm also finding banshees to be less useful than ever for much the same reason.

Best defence is offence imo.

/discuss


If you do this, then you need a solid team with you since you're now just a ganker and that's it. If the other team has any stuns you have to wait or initiate smartly or else you die quickly. (If the other team doesn't kill you as soon as you appear when you build that then you probably could have built anything and done well.)

With some defensive items you can contribute sooner to teamfights and more often without dying. But your lifesteal and damage aren't as good, so different situations call for different builds.


Can anyone tell me if hp regen runes will help me jungle? More specifically, will it help characters who have to b back early by making it so they don't have to, or is a rune build like that just not good enough?
Cheese is good for you!
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
August 17 2010 10:04 GMT
#12677
I guess so. Maybe I was just on a lucky win steak while using that build. I find i'll get focused regardless so building tank is little pointless when u can't kill anyone when u get the chance.

Also I don't think hp regen runes are worth it but haven't really tried em. Your prob better off with armour.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 17 2010 10:12 GMT
#12678
On August 17 2010 15:57 ggrrg wrote:
My new favorite hero: Veigar!
Reason: Just had the funniest game ever!

Long story, short - in an hour long game I managed to get Veigar to ~850 AP!
In addition I had Deathfire Grasp and Lich Bane.
Fights happen something along the lines:
stun Annie, W, Q = dead
deathfire + ulti on heima = dead
auto-attack ashe = half dead + ally dmg = dead
Basically I could 2-combo kill every hero on the enemy team (including Akali) except for Rammus, for whom I need 3 spells and auto-attack.
With max. CDR at 40% spamming spells wasn't an issue and Lich Bane every few seconds led to incredible amounts of damage.
I actually peaked at ~950 AP few minutes before the game ended after killing Nashor and while my last bril pot lasted.

p.s. in case somebody doesn't know Veigar's W and R have an 1:1 AP:dmg ratio, which meant that W did 320+850 dmg and ulti 500+850+enemy's AP (heima and annie were raking up AP^^)
Q did "only" 260+0.7*850 dmg. Deathfire effectively demolished about half of any heroes hp and lich bane meant an auto-attack equal to my AP = 900 dmg ^^

+ Show Spoiler +

The game was nothing special. Neither my team nor the enemy team had any especially good players, but it was still an awesome fun to just destroy every enemy hero in the blink of an eye.


that stun for veigar is really amazing

all you should do as veig is get max cdr and spam the shit outa that without dying imo. i find you just die really easily if you go too much ap
gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 10:53:41
August 17 2010 10:31 GMT
#12679
gdroxor's Law of Names:
At least one person per team per game will have a name with excessive x's, e.g. xXzzephirothXx, and one with a weed reference, e.g. Superdoobie420

Also every custom game I've been invited to after roflstomping the other team in the solo queue has gone horribly.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 17 2010 10:58 GMT
#12680
High level play really isn't that much better than mid level play lol
jungle eve, 0-3 mejai's first vlad, and a 1700 garen that let a 1380 ap Sion beat him in lane, all in the same game

wtb players with less ego and more skill plz
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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