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EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
On August 17 2010 11:27 redtooth wrote: T4C Victory edit: poppy was banned game 3 in case you were wondering haha. + Show Spoiler [OXICLEAN CARRY] + ![[image loading]](http://i37.tinypic.com/sbu23b.png) I'm assuming your team is in the losers bracket. What team did you lose to? Also, how does the lower bracket work? Can you guys still be the top 2 teams and go to WCG? | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
It's the same thing... also kayle is fine for true solo que as well, if your team is that bad then your team is that bad. no matter what toon you choose it's gonna pretty much amount to the same thing... kayle gives you a great chance of just solo pushing towers and taking on a few at a time as well as turning team fights around.. as well as just being kayle :D... | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On August 17 2010 11:42 Repok wrote: I'm assuming your team is in the losers bracket. What team did you lose to? Also, how does the lower bracket work? Can you guys still be the top 2 teams and go to WCG? IIRC they lost to AoN. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i38.tinypic.com/2mpg2fr.png) jungle twitch/janna (double smite) with super ganking. baron rush at 15 minutes with WRIGGLE'S LANTERN. other team QQs about how "dishonorable" we were for leaving our lanes and not "dueling". | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Ugh. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 17 2010 12:28 Juicyfruit wrote: Considering how little it costs to double your EHP and how expensive it is to double your damage output, I don't understand why anyone would want to build their champ glass cannon. Ugh. dont get hit? oh and nice redtooth. triple wriggle lantern for the pro wards. major trolling. although knaan didnt play his pro poppy >_< | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On August 17 2010 11:27 redtooth wrote: T4C Victory edit: poppy was banned game 3 in case you were wondering haha. + Show Spoiler [OXICLEAN CARRY] + wtf how did vladimir get out farmed by kayle? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
On August 17 2010 09:32 Shikyo wrote: Hey btw, I got this now to continue the APM discussion: ![[image loading]](http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2489/123456fb.jpg) Sorry if I'm out of the loop, but what program is that? | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On August 17 2010 12:48 scintilliaSD wrote: Sorry if I'm out of the loop, but what program is that? The game is heroes of newerth | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On August 17 2010 12:28 Juicyfruit wrote: Considering how little it costs to double your EHP and how expensive it is to double your damage output, I don't understand why anyone would want to build their champ glass cannon. Ugh. There is a reason, although I will probably butcher it in my explanation, it makes sense for some champions but not others. effective hp, which is basically calculated with actual health and reduction of damage due to armor and magic. if you have 100 hp and take 50% reduced damage from physical due to armor, then one would have 200 EHP vs physical attacks Usually physical melee dps will build for higher EHP because their damage is dealt steadily over a period of time and there is a ramp up time (where you can't do damage due to having to move to the enemy) that needs to be accounted for. Even if you can 1 shot the enemy you won't kill them if you don't get close enough to attack. Ranged dps and casters generally build glass cannon to abuse their ability to deal damage instantly and if they are able to kill the enemy before they get touched then all the EHP in the world wont help them. The other problem with casters is that they have significantly less damage output when their spells are on cooldown, thus the less amount of total volleys it takes to kill an enemy the higher chances they will be able to survive. This favors more damage but usually just enough health to survive until spells cooldown atleast once. Some champions are both casters and ranged dps (ezreal as a good example) where their dps with their burst spells can be increased and their damage from auto attacks can be increased with similar or the same items. If you build hp on ezreal you are extremely gimping ourself unless their team is so tanky you cant survive long enough to get away. Also in the case with ezreal if you can kite the enemies long enough and poke them enough you don't need EHP to kill someone that's half dead. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Bunch of TL people unranked queuing. We have Zilean solo top against Ezreal Blitzcrank Veigar mid against Janna Shen Ashe bot against Jax Vladimir (I think it was Vlad) and Olaf jungle. Things start off not so well; all our lanes are losing, and mid dies right before I can gank. I get the kill on Janna, but die to tower. Zilean survives admirably, while bot has troubles and gets ganked by Janna less than 20 seconds before I arrive, with Jax barely living due to shield and two of us dying. Whoever survives holds the turret, and we enter the midgame slightly behind. No one has done dragon until Janna and someone try around the 15 minute mark but I steal it. I fail another gank (HATE janna); we lose a few teamfights. Veigar is starting to shine now, however, and I have begun constructing mallet. Currently, it's 25 minutes and we are sans all the outer turrets and inner mid, having taken only outer bot ourselves. They grabbed dragon too fast for anyone to stop, so we're even there, and we're behind about 5 kills. Fortunately, most of their kills are Janna's. We win the next teamfight, but don't have the momentum to push them Then we ace them and get an inhibitor. Then we ace them again (but after zil got hooked), and lose all but Ashe and Shen, who are currently in no position to push because their Ezreal is almost alive again. So, when we get the second inhibitor down, the game turns around again. Our only tank, Shen, has basically lost most of his power, while Jax has finally hit his LEET DEEPS at about 40 minutes in. I can still go toe to toe with him... but they've wised up and are now ignoring me. Jax flattens Ashe Zilean and Veigar (who only takes off 2/3 of his health now, half of which Janna heals back up). Shen can no longer effectively stop him. I chase Ezreal around, usually kill him if Janna doesn't focus on stopping me, and promptly die. From there, they push down an inhibitor, take baron, and push all the way into our base, killing one nexus turret and getting the other to half health. We turn it around, acing them, though at the cost of everyone but Ashe and Shen. Zilean ports in to help and they kill both exposed inhibs, escaping with no casualties... that is, until Zilean gets hooked in middle. With him dead, I die in seconds to triple elixir Jax and our team melts just as quickly. Game over. oh Olaf also has some problems when the enemy team has 3 exhausts | ||
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briann
United States121 Posts
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Fishcakes
United States149 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7471/urgot.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4432/c4398039ccd86cf1a34d08c.jpg) Well thats one way to bring ez down from top tier, | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
That's one OP ulti, seriously. | ||
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jtbem
Canada1404 Posts
may be his passive? f this guy! | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
groovy | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
On August 17 2010 13:18 Fishcakes wrote: Well thats one way to bring ez down from top tier, He better not come with dragoon AI | ||
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