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And this is why I've never thought very hard about what runes to use.
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Siiiiiiiiiigh. And this is why I've never thought very hard about what runes to use. | ||
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Celestial
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 18 2010 00:30 Southlight wrote: I'm still running HP quints on Kassadin and I still have no idea what's a better option (if there is any), hahah. Siiiiiiiiiigh. And this is why I've never thought very hard about what runes to use. would the flat AP Quints be a good choice? I really have no idea, and I mean, flat HP are always good, they might not be optimal, but they're guaranteed to be passable on all champs. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
As I mentioned before and mainly to redtooth, 15 AP is like 22 damage on a full spell cycle. Or more "importantly" an extra 10 damage per Q during laning. How significant is that? I don't really know. Assuming I'm pumping out Q on cd that's an extra 60 damage per minute... which is kinda underwhelming personally. Not to mention when you compare that to the extra 96 hp from flat HP it feels significantly weaker and useless. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On August 17 2010 23:58 Shikyo wrote: your team isn't the only one with baddies, you have to locate them and then bully them constantly Yah, I was able to find an adorable feeder twitch to fill up my soulstealer. But then we had a corki on our team steal golem from me with smite, and then literally deliver it directly to enemy annie. Unbelievable lol. | ||
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Fishcakes
United States149 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 18 2010 00:42 Fishcakes wrote: A page ago you said that you miss the 3% movement speed, so another 4.5% seems perfect for you. Your trading Hp for mobility, which for kass, whom i think relies on positioning a lot, would be a better choice imo. Actually I meant 3% movement speed on smurf account, on which I don't play Kassadin :p Mspd is tempting (I mentioned it in LP) but I'm actually pondering moving to mpen quint/mark/glyph mp5pl seal and just hammering people with runes + guise on top of RoA. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
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Shikyo
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rredtooth
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On August 18 2010 01:05 Kuo wrote: liquidpartyI was watching some streams and they were in this big huge IRC channel for LoL I was wondering if anyone knew it? I tried searching but did not find anything. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 18 2010 00:58 Shikyo wrote: Just played the worst game I've played in a month -- we all hv been through this. just go to sleep and play when you wake up. Guarantee things will get better. riot should implement swap command in ban/pick phase, make things MUCH easier.... | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 18 2010 00:33 Celestial wrote: Man, free heimar weeks suck, just a bit more before I'll finish my second rune page and be done with normal ques. Oh yeah, Weisser Ritter = Celestial really? and here i was thinking weisser ritter = white knight | ||
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Celestial
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On August 17 2010 23:30 phyvo wrote: How do you do it (build/runes)? I've been testing jungle cho too. Though I'm always pretty high health in the jungle in terms of XP I can only barely keep up with the double lane, nevermind the solo lane. That's why I sort of gave up on it. I'm kind of new to jungling, but Cho is one of my favorites and I'd love to make jungling with him work when it's possible. Also, how do you fair when there's other junglers? Vs other junglers you're usually fine, udyr's probably the biggest threat but if you can get a rupture to cover while you run and scream at him he usually runs off. Xin is hard because he heals and disrupts, so try to use the same strat, rupture cover and scream as it hits to escape with ghost. Masteries: 1/16/13, improved smite, one point in all the nimbleness-tier, strength of spirit maxed. 3 perseverance, 1 improved ghost, 4 xp boost, 3 meditation and 2 in buff mastery. Runes are attackspeed marks/quints, dodge seals and cdr glyphs. I've been toying around with some MR/lv too, it's not bad. Take smite/ghost, buy cloth armor and 5 hp pots and go wraiths -> wolves -> blue buff -> small golems -> red buff -> gank. They never, ever expect the cho gank because nobody does it. Hit either a rupture or an auto attack and it's basically gg. The only time i've ever failed the first gank was last game, they blew ghost, exhaust and flash and we still almost got them. After that go back to jungle (their side if they don't have a jungler, but your side again if they do) and run around killing stuff. Grab blue again when its up and go for ganks aggressively. One kill or assist will let you outlevel solo lanes sometimes. When you hit 6 go for the rupture/red buff/feast gank which is really, really hard to stop. I usually buy boots and a catalyst at this point. My standard for a Rod of Ages while jungling is 15 minutes. I hit it nearly every time on the dot. The one thing that sucks about jungle cho is that it takes you forever to get dragon. If you can get a sick gank off at bottom lane you can try to take it instead of taking tower, giving you more gank opportunities on bottom which you totally want because your gank phase is so strong. It's never a bad thing to take a tower though. For skills, QEQEQR then R>Q>W>E. Spikes are nice for jungling but after a certain point it won't matter and you'll want scream for midgame. If they have an escape artist or morgana sometimes I take w for the first gank instead of a point in e. But ya you should totally try it it's super fun. End build looks like RoA Merc FoN GA and your call from there. Survivability is good, another rod is good if it's going long (15 minutes after you'd complete it), banshee's for casters, Thornmail for physical, just whatever. Make sure to get an oracles and red/blue elixir near the end if you manage to complete your build. If I wasn't concerned about surviving I'd probably grab a Zhonya's early on as well. Good luck! [edit] Tank jungling is pretty sick too. Basically you get 2 HoGs and treads then get a giant's belt, GA, then finish sunfire. Try to keep your stacks high and blue elixir/golem if you need stack out quickly. You're just the CC/initiation/spell shield when you play this style, and it's really good if you don't have a true tank, because AP Cho really needs a primary tank to do well if you're not completely stomping them. Try to tank for your team and silence the crucial players (vlad, taric, xin, shaco, etc.) while hitting sick ruptures to let your dps and stunners catch up. Feast the carries or anyone that's low and kill/assist/force them to run. If you need more MR get a Banshees, and finish Randuins at some point. Now go, and rape nubs. [/edit] | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
And she picked eve last. After seeing Xin, Ez, Morg, and Shen on the enemy team. This'll end well. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
early on, you get a lot more mileage out of armor seals and defensive mastery/harden skin than you do out of dodge seals and dodge masteries. Like, the typical jungling setup I run is always 1/16/13 with armor seals (other runes vary depending on character). dodge setup admittedly scales a little better to the end game, but I find jungling goes much much smoother with the armor setup. EDIT: I also think that veteran's scars are pretty overrated, I only get 2 in them and I'm honestly thinking about cutting them and 1 point of meditation and going for 15 in utility to get the movespeed boost. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4535/carried23232.jpg) Love solo queue, getting carried so fucking hard. Btw the Olaf was around 1100 rating, gg matchmaking too. EDIT: To give you an idea about the Olaf, he was laning with me and started with vamp scepter and was lasthitting almost solely with Reckless Swing. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 18 2010 01:49 Mogwai wrote: ^ just something to think about for your pre-game jungling setup... early on, you get a lot more mileage out of armor seals and defensive mastery/harden skin than you do out of dodge seals and dodge masteries. Like, the typical jungling setup I run is always 1/16/13 with armor seals (other runes vary depending on character). dodge setup admittedly scales a little better to the end game, but I find jungling goes much much smoother with the armor setup. EDIT: I also think that veteran's scars are pretty overrated, I only get 2 in them and I'm honestly thinking about cutting them and 1 point of meditation and going for 15 in utility to get the movespeed boost. I run 1/16/13 on Udyr. Imp Smite, -5 Physical, Nimble, 3 Meditate, 2 Utility | ||
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Mogwai
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