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On August 14 2010 10:23 ghen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 10:06 Orpheos wrote:On August 14 2010 09:56 NB wrote:On August 14 2010 09:50 Orpheos wrote:On August 14 2010 08:15 NB wrote:On August 14 2010 07:57 Liquid`Tyler wrote: what masteries/runes/skill build are these good pantheons doing? ad, hp, mana reg... amour pen?... crit damage is a must but smtimes you wont be able to pick panth, crit might be useless. masteries i went 21 9 0 or 21 0 9... depend on if there is any dangerous champ on the other side to get def master... most of the time get 9 ultilities for +1 money or + mana reg. its good so that you can rush damage item in the beginning without buying much mana. skill: 1 level stun, Q if you vs range lane control or E if you vs melee for farm (mostly Q>E>W) ulti normal. umm? yeah... panth is not my champ... only play him when he is free so im not a pro... @_@ go ahead and bass me, im noob  im not trying to call you a noob. just dont want anyone thinking the greed mastery is worth taking, least of all get 9 in util for it. It's in a really loaded tier on utility too. Can't do much about that. Especially on pantheon who really wants 2/2 utility mastery to keep lizard on...
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On August 14 2010 10:36 Budikhan wrote: Where have you guys gone/started to look for teams? I've been playing this game since Beta (King Raaammussss!) and I've played here and there with a few groups, but never anybody that has seriously been around and wanted to play games often. I do about as well as I can do in Solo and I do believe it is time to move onward... any suggestions?
finding a stable 5 man group that can get along, not argue/complain, learn together, lose together, win together.. all equally skilled so no one feels they have to look for a new team cause their too good or are dragging the team down, that gets a long and most importantly learns and discusses strategies(cause that's what really puts you over the top once you get your char down)...
there is no such thing :d
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On August 14 2010 10:36 Budikhan wrote: Where have you guys gone/started to look for teams? I've been playing this game since Beta (King Raaammussss!) and I've played here and there with a few groups, but never anybody that has seriously been around and wanted to play games often. I do about as well as I can do in Solo and I do believe it is time to move onward... any suggestions? DotA 2 years competitive experience: if you are good enough, teams will send invitation to you, not you looking for a team.
Ladder information always public, you might consider have a "practice team" but to do it competitively, make it to the top first.
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is the best team makeup right now just stacking tanks or am I doing something wrong? I seem to get owned by mass tank teams every single game I lose
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On August 14 2010 10:44 Rice wrote: is the best team makeup right now just stacking tanks or am I doing something wrong? I seem to get owned by mass tank teams every single game I lose Yup, 3 beefy chars, 1 jungler and 1 ranged carry (ez) are pretty much the best comp right now.
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Just bought akali and had my first game...turns out I had to mid because we had all melee and I'm up against ashe
bitch is hell bent on shooting me so I throw shruiken. Throw it again. Smoke bomb, shruiken, SMACK and ignite gg.
I basically went for the recommended items although I think I'll take out phage and go straight for Rylai's
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All of the good players have too much ego for that to happen, look for level 1-10 summoners and you can find the fabled group.
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ok, officially the most annoying thing in the game is allies pinging the minimap the entire goddamn game.
Is there some trick to this game I'm missing? Regardless of hero I can't even come close to an even score. I'm getting ridiculed in chat for how terrible I am.
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Pick a 450 (or 1350 if you have it) IP hero and play a whole bunch with it, ask here for advice on that char.
Always be with someone unless you're solo mid, play defensively if you have to. If you get dove by a xin/shaco/garen, welcome to balance, otherwise you should die minimally.
Learn to last-hit so you wind up with more spending money in the early game - if you feel like you're not comfortable adding enough by yourself, try a hero like Zilean, Janna or Twisted Fate for the global bonus.
Don't be afraid to get survivability in the mid/late game on a DPS hero if it means you stay alive. 10% hp tankier DPS does more dps than dead better geared DPS.
If all else fails, play Soraka and ride your R to victory in lowbie games!
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On August 14 2010 11:36 Niton wrote: Pick a 450 (or 1350 if you have it) IP hero and play a whole bunch with it, ask here for advice on that char.
Always be with someone unless you're solo mid, play defensively if you have to. If you get dove by a xin/shaco/garen, welcome to balance, otherwise you should die minimally.
Learn to last-hit so you wind up with more spending money in the early game - if you feel like you're not comfortable adding enough by yourself, try a hero like Zilean, Janna or Twisted Fate for the global bonus.
Don't be afraid to get survivability in the mid/late game on a DPS hero if it means you stay alive. 10% hp tankier DPS does more dps than dead better geared DPS.
If all else fails, play Soraka and ride your R to victory in lowbie games! Pretty much this. Last hit, don't die. Or pick WW and complain when you get raped after you ult and blame everything on the guy you left 1v2ing.
Also <3 hybrid Sion. I can only manage to sneak him in the team when I don't have to jungle/1v2 but it just feels soooooooooooooooooo sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet... I basically play him once every 1-2 days and I always make at least 1 opponent rage. Played him twice today and made 3 ppl rage, that must have been a special offer.
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most important thing to learn in your first couple games is how not to die. dont be afraid to lose some exp.
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I fucking suck at this game now. If I get ganked early and then again, with teammates running all over the place farming my jungle instead of holding their damn lanes, i have no way to recover.
Getting sick of that shit. I swear there are just teams that are not on the same page as me from the start. They just happy to sit back and not be aggressive whatsoever, then i get blamed when I die trying to get a kill (when they are running the fuck away...)
Its like, as soon as we lose map control my WW just utterly fails to do anything. Cant jungle, cant lane without getting ganked. Cant farm with team cause they steal much needed kb's. I dunno anymore..
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On August 14 2010 12:04 Khul Sadukar wrote: I fucking suck at this game now. If I get ganked early and then again, with teammates running all over the place farming my jungle instead of holding their damn lanes, i have no way to recover.
Getting sick of that shit. I swear there are just teams that are not on the same page as me from the start. They just happy to sit back and not be aggressive whatsoever, then i get blamed when I die trying to get a kill (when they are running the fuck away...)
Its like, as soon as we lose map control my WW just utterly fails to do anything. Cant jungle, cant lane without getting ganked. Cant farm with team cause they steal much needed kb's. I dunno anymore.. Do you have problems winning? Just pick Garen.
EDIT: And if you like solo queue, learn junglers. Warwick, Udyr and Amumu can all carry like crazy.
If it's normal mode, just spam Shaco and win every single game without any effort.
Then theres the ultimate noob basher Ezreal. Oh right, and a solo queue monster Nasus. You build tank on him and he out-DPSes almost everything while doing a million AoE DMG and never dying.
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On August 14 2010 12:13 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 12:04 Khul Sadukar wrote: I fucking suck at this game now. If I get ganked early and then again, with teammates running all over the place farming my jungle instead of holding their damn lanes, i have no way to recover.
Getting sick of that shit. I swear there are just teams that are not on the same page as me from the start. They just happy to sit back and not be aggressive whatsoever, then i get blamed when I die trying to get a kill (when they are running the fuck away...)
Its like, as soon as we lose map control my WW just utterly fails to do anything. Cant jungle, cant lane without getting ganked. Cant farm with team cause they steal much needed kb's. I dunno anymore.. Do you have problems winning? Just pick Garen. EDIT: And if you like solo queue, learn junglers. Warwick, Udyr and Amumu can all carry like crazy. If it's normal mode, just spam Shaco and win every single game without any effort. Then theres the ultimate noob basher Ezreal. Oh right, and a solo queue monster Nasus. You build tank on him and he out-DPSes almost everything while doing a million AoE DMG and never dying. Playing a jungler implies that at least one guy on your team won't suck monkey balls, and that lost me almost as many games as it has won...
Play something that doesn't die, Chogath, Sion, Garen, to an extent Taric and Vlad are both good options, even though Taric feels like a real waste in the modern 3-semitank teams.
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On August 14 2010 10:44 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 10:36 Budikhan wrote: Where have you guys gone/started to look for teams? I've been playing this game since Beta (King Raaammussss!) and I've played here and there with a few groups, but never anybody that has seriously been around and wanted to play games often. I do about as well as I can do in Solo and I do believe it is time to move onward... any suggestions? DotA 2 years competitive experience: if you are good enough, teams will send invitation to you, not you looking for a team. Ladder information always public, you might consider have a "practice team" but to do it competitively, make it to the top first.
The current solo/duo ladder is kind of a joke though. Granted the top players will eventually rise up, but many more good players will simply stop trying to drag ass through hell and actually look for a group.
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On August 14 2010 12:34 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 12:13 Shikyo wrote:On August 14 2010 12:04 Khul Sadukar wrote: I fucking suck at this game now. If I get ganked early and then again, with teammates running all over the place farming my jungle instead of holding their damn lanes, i have no way to recover.
Getting sick of that shit. I swear there are just teams that are not on the same page as me from the start. They just happy to sit back and not be aggressive whatsoever, then i get blamed when I die trying to get a kill (when they are running the fuck away...)
Its like, as soon as we lose map control my WW just utterly fails to do anything. Cant jungle, cant lane without getting ganked. Cant farm with team cause they steal much needed kb's. I dunno anymore.. Do you have problems winning? Just pick Garen. EDIT: And if you like solo queue, learn junglers. Warwick, Udyr and Amumu can all carry like crazy. If it's normal mode, just spam Shaco and win every single game without any effort. Then theres the ultimate noob basher Ezreal. Oh right, and a solo queue monster Nasus. You build tank on him and he out-DPSes almost everything while doing a million AoE DMG and never dying. Playing a jungler implies that at least one guy on your team won't suck monkey balls, and that lost me almost as many games as it has won... Play something that doesn't die, Chogath, Sion, Garen, to an extent Taric and Vlad are both good options, even though Taric feels like a real waste in the modern 3-semitank teams.
But Taric is a semitank himself? He's actually perfect for the current gameplay, borderline impossible to kill, hard disable, heal, stun, tower pushing ult. Awesomesauce.
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Those PTR patch notes from a while back are interesting. 0.5 AD ratio on Kog's ult seems like the 2nd biggest deal to me -- I can see building him like AD Kat with that (guise, sorc, BTs). Maybe start off with a GRB for auto-attack utility.
The biggest deal is obviously the Kennen stuff. Uncapped ult? No slow while he's lightninged? Sign me up...
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On August 14 2010 12:34 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 12:13 Shikyo wrote:On August 14 2010 12:04 Khul Sadukar wrote: I fucking suck at this game now. If I get ganked early and then again, with teammates running all over the place farming my jungle instead of holding their damn lanes, i have no way to recover.
Getting sick of that shit. I swear there are just teams that are not on the same page as me from the start. They just happy to sit back and not be aggressive whatsoever, then i get blamed when I die trying to get a kill (when they are running the fuck away...)
Its like, as soon as we lose map control my WW just utterly fails to do anything. Cant jungle, cant lane without getting ganked. Cant farm with team cause they steal much needed kb's. I dunno anymore.. Do you have problems winning? Just pick Garen. EDIT: And if you like solo queue, learn junglers. Warwick, Udyr and Amumu can all carry like crazy. If it's normal mode, just spam Shaco and win every single game without any effort. Then theres the ultimate noob basher Ezreal. Oh right, and a solo queue monster Nasus. You build tank on him and he out-DPSes almost everything while doing a million AoE DMG and never dying. Playing a jungler implies that at least one guy on your team won't suck monkey balls, and that lost me almost as many games as it has won... Play something that doesn't die, Chogath, Sion, Garen, to an extent Taric and Vlad are both good options, even though Taric feels like a real waste in the modern 3-semitank teams. No, playing as a jungler it doesn't really matter if one guy in your team sucks monkeyballs, you must be doing something wrong.
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On August 14 2010 13:08 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2010 12:34 r33k wrote:On August 14 2010 12:13 Shikyo wrote:On August 14 2010 12:04 Khul Sadukar wrote: I fucking suck at this game now. If I get ganked early and then again, with teammates running all over the place farming my jungle instead of holding their damn lanes, i have no way to recover.
Getting sick of that shit. I swear there are just teams that are not on the same page as me from the start. They just happy to sit back and not be aggressive whatsoever, then i get blamed when I die trying to get a kill (when they are running the fuck away...)
Its like, as soon as we lose map control my WW just utterly fails to do anything. Cant jungle, cant lane without getting ganked. Cant farm with team cause they steal much needed kb's. I dunno anymore.. Do you have problems winning? Just pick Garen. EDIT: And if you like solo queue, learn junglers. Warwick, Udyr and Amumu can all carry like crazy. If it's normal mode, just spam Shaco and win every single game without any effort. Then theres the ultimate noob basher Ezreal. Oh right, and a solo queue monster Nasus. You build tank on him and he out-DPSes almost everything while doing a million AoE DMG and never dying. Playing a jungler implies that at least one guy on your team won't suck monkey balls, and that lost me almost as many games as it has won... Play something that doesn't die, Chogath, Sion, Garen, to an extent Taric and Vlad are both good options, even though Taric feels like a real waste in the modern 3-semitank teams. No, playing as a jungler it doesn't really matter if one guy in your team sucks monkeyballs, you must be doing something wrong. Or you could be doing great but that 1 person can't hold a 1v2 lane and feeds. That happens in solo q!
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On August 14 2010 11:36 Niton wrote:If all else fails, play Soraka and ride your R to victory in lowbie games!
I've decided not to play soraka in games at my level, everybody is either
- An idiot, no point healing them - A newbie, same - A smurf, they're going to curb stomp the opposing team anyway
Basically I'm not gonna waste my time buffing people who are as bad as I am
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