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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 10:05 GMT
#1181
On June 18 2010 18:52 Juicyfruit wrote:
At the very least, you MUST do your best to stop that warwick or fiddlesticks from taking that dragon at levels 3-4 (you don't even need to ward it, you can hear warwick jungling through the fog of war.... i think?). That global exp boost will screw over your team so bad, not to mention the gold.


It's why the level 2 Dragon kill on Fiddle is so nasty :D Most people don't expect it.
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Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
June 18 2010 10:31 GMT
#1182
On June 18 2010 15:14 radmax86 wrote:
So fun story, I bought karthus today and called mid pregame like a cocky motherfucker (playing for the first time) and proceed to die at like 1:50 to a 5 man gank.

LOL, good times :[


also, I like to play teemo, but dont think he is all that great even after the recent changes. I think all the ranged DPS heroes are superior assuming skill is equal, so i'd have to put him somewhere in a lower tier. I think he will be a bit better in ranked play as a hard counter to some physical dpsers. As it is right now there are too many popular team comps that shut him down, or ignore his skills with ease.



This was sad to witness from the top lane.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 10:59 GMT
#1183
LOL according to lolbase:
Kill-Death Ratio Kill/death ratio: 0.795

[image loading]

Really crappy samplebase, but lol.

Herpderp what're kills?
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 11:04 GMT
#1184
On June 18 2010 19:04 Nikon wrote:
I have a couple of questions - what are the cooldowns on ignite, cleanse and flash (running ghost+heal atm, seems like a good combo, and I'm too low level for flash as of now )

and

how many different forest critter buffs are there? I've only encountered one.


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Spell

Cleanse/Ghost is my personal preference, I rarely stray from it.

On SR (5v5) there're three - lizard (dot + slow), golem (mana regen + cdr), and baron (damage/ap, hp/mana regen)

I forget exactly but I think on TT (3v3) there's dragon, whatever-the-heck-you-call-that-thing-in-the-middle, wraith, and wolf.
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Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
June 18 2010 11:17 GMT
#1185
On June 18 2010 19:59 Southlight wrote:
LOL according to lolbase:
Kill-Death Ratio Kill/death ratio: 0.795

[image loading]

Really crappy samplebase, but lol.

Herpderp what're kills?



http://www.lolbase.net/us/Soloside



Kill/death ratio:2.399



Ew.


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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 11:22 GMT
#1186
Ignoring the random Teemo and Nasus, only Kassadin gives me a positive k/d ratio lol. Yeeeeeeeeah meatbag.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
June 18 2010 11:34 GMT
#1187
On June 18 2010 20:04 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 19:04 Nikon wrote:
I have a couple of questions - what are the cooldowns on ignite, cleanse and flash (running ghost+heal atm, seems like a good combo, and I'm too low level for flash as of now )

and

how many different forest critter buffs are there? I've only encountered one.


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Spell

Cleanse/Ghost is my personal preference, I rarely stray from it.

On SR (5v5) there're three - lizard (dot + slow), golem (mana regen + cdr), and baron (damage/ap, hp/mana regen)

I forget exactly but I think on TT (3v3) there's dragon, whatever-the-heck-you-call-that-thing-in-the-middle, wraith, and wolf.


Thanks for the link, looks very helpful.

I was thinking of subbing Ghost for Flash once I hit level 12, but with 4 minutes cooldown and only 475, it doesn't look as useful as Ghost any more :| Will play around with Ignite for Annie, I seem to have taken a liking to her.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 13:14 GMT
#1188
My distaste of Flash stems more from "distance covered." The only way you can escape someone with Ghost using Flash is to Flash across a wall, which isn't always going to be possible. Ghost is also a superior chase spell, as you'll usually not catch someone Ghosting with Flash.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 18 2010 13:23 GMT
#1189
but flash gives u so much more room via element of surprise for ganking, whereas its really obvious when someone presses ghost what they wanna do
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 13:31:13
June 18 2010 13:30 GMT
#1190
On June 18 2010 22:23 HeavOnEarth wrote:
but flash gives u so much more room via element of surprise for ganking, whereas its really obvious when someone presses ghost what they wanna do


That's usually only relevant for laning. For me, once the first towers are down, it's pretty easy to flank someone who's pushing, and flash's surprise factor becomes less valuable.

Anyways, can't wait till they get rid of flash. No more people using flash to dodge my Kassadin's shadowball!
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 13:40 GMT
#1191
I think Flash is fine the way it is now, with the possible exception of popping ranged projectiles. What they're intending to replace it with (Dash) is retarded, because it's quite blatantly a defensive spell.
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In)Spire
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1323 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 14:04:20
June 18 2010 13:53 GMT
#1192
NVM IM DUMB
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 18 2010 13:54 GMT
#1193
God Cleanse is so goddamn broken....it nullifies something like 1/4 of the ults in the game

Also I hate people who play Yi in pubs and act like they're good.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 18 2010 14:13 GMT
#1194
On June 18 2010 22:40 Southlight wrote:
I think Flash is fine the way it is now, with the possible exception of popping ranged projectiles. What they're intending to replace it with (Dash) is retarded, because it's quite blatantly a defensive spell.

the spell/projectile dodging is the only thing I'm against. Aside from that, flash is 100% fine.

and that's really not even OP, it's just unexpected and fucking annoying. I think they should just remove it and jack the range back up by 50, boom, flash is fixed, most people will still use ghost and flash will still have its utility.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 14:18 GMT
#1195
Agreed.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 18 2010 14:21 GMT
#1196
I'm so mad I didn't get the chance to play one more last night. I'm very on tilt about my latest string of Pantheon games (i think 4 game losing streak... that's my worst in a long time)
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 18 2010 14:23 GMT
#1197
Meanwhile after the server went up I solo-queued and won a game without doing anything (1-2-3 as first-time Ezreal lolol). Had a Pantheon on my team that got 240 creep kills in 30 minutes it was ridiculous.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 18 2010 14:29 GMT
#1198
wow, I never get to farm that much :p. I think I get the first 75 cs very quickly with panth, but at that point, I transition to going after champions a lot, so I don't seem to get much farm aside from HSing big creep waves and clearing jungle when I can.

in related news: i had a 15 minute triforce on my nasus with 0/0/0 on my smurf last night before I started playing with you, lol. I think I killed every single creep that came mid :p
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 14:36:21
June 18 2010 14:33 GMT
#1199
He ended up like 7-1-X, it was just that after he controlled mid (good Ashe player, btw, didn't actually die to Panth 1v1) and double-killed a bit, he set up shop in jungle (both ours and theirs) and cleared all the creep while pushing a lane, daring them to gank him (which they couldn't). It was just ridiculous cuz I thought I had decent farmage with Ezreal at ~120 creep kills at one point, and I hit tab and I saw 220 and was like WHAT.

Edit:
Before you ponder his skill, I pondered it too, and he was 9-1 past 10 games with Panth so he kinda looked like you. Similar build, too, with Bruta -> BT etc. just pure offense. I was shocked he had so many creep kills lol.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 18 2010 14:47 GMT
#1200
well, just sounds like he played the midgame completely differently. I typically roam around looking for ganks, it sounds like he just focused on farming.

*shrug* either way, I've been experimenting too much with sidelaning and jungling recently... not worth it, if I can't have mid as Panth, I'm pretty useless. I'll still have a good game here or there sidelaning or jungling, but it's sorta a coin flip as to whether I'll manage to get early kills and become useful or if I'll just be underfarmed and underleveled all game, whereas the innate level advantage mid leads to more consistently good games.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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