EPTDear Mal players: stop playing as him. Thank you.
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Rising_Phoenix
United States370 Posts
Dear Mal players: stop playing as him. Thank you. | ||
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sleeepy
Canada777 Posts
On June 18 2010 11:15 Rising_Phoenix wrote: I'm sick of Malhazar players. Every time I see one on my team I know they will go maybe 2/4 at best. It's really bad to see since they're so frequently bad and have no escape. Dear Mal players: stop playing as him. Thank you. Nah, Malz is pretty awesome despite being one of the worst heroes right now. If you manage to face a team with no cleanse you can usually be an asset to your team. That said, it's his free week now and a lot of people are playing him because they must think 6300 = easy win. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 18 2010 11:19 sleeepy wrote: Nah, Malz is pretty awesome despite being one of the worst heroes right now. If you manage to face a team with no cleanse you can usually be an asset to your team. That said, it's his free week now and a lot of people are playing him because they must think 6300 = easy win. Malzahar is good even if they have cleanse, you just dont get a free faceroll | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On June 18 2010 11:45 Phrost wrote: mal and veigar are the worst heroes in the game.Malzahar is good even if they have cleanse, you just dont get a free faceroll | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On June 18 2010 11:49 redtooth wrote: mal and veigar are the worst heroes in the game. what about tryndamere | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 18 2010 11:49 redtooth wrote: mal and veigar are the worst heroes in the game. No Veigar and Teemo are probably currently the worst heros in the game. Malzahar is extremely good if they dont have cleanse, Teemo sucks all of the time. Or maybe Evelynn, shes pretty bad right now too. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On June 18 2010 11:59 Phrost wrote: No Veigar and Teemo are probably currently the worst heros in the game. Malzahar is extremely good if they dont have cleanse, Teemo sucks all of the time. Or maybe Evelynn, shes pretty bad right now too. eve would be great if there is some good items come with her just as dota... but yeah, she is bad overall =.= | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Raneth
England527 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On June 18 2010 13:15 EleanorRIgby wrote: viegar is usually free kill unless he has some sick support veigar for the most part is support, unless your scrub stomping. he needs very little AP to nuke down a carry, which is what you should be doing. competitive veigar play should be focused on getting 40% CD and tanking up so you can continue to dish out DPS with your Q. as long as you rice it, you will make up for in not spending on AP. usually my build looks something like mana crystal + 2hp pots tear of the goddess first trip back and boots merc treads glacial shroud --> Frozenheart Deathfire grasp Zhonya's Abysmal sceptre gives good mr/armor and the zhonya active to keep yourself alive, while still being able to do your job, and providing considerable CC. Ghost/cleanse or Ghost/clarity 9-0-21 | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On June 18 2010 13:38 Brees wrote: veigar for the most part is support, unless your scrub stomping. he needs very little AP to nuke down a carry, which is what you should be doing. competitive veigar play should be focused on getting 40% CD and tanking up so you can continue to dish out DPS with your Q. as long as you rice it, you will make up for in not spending on AP. usually my build looks something like mana crystal + 2hp pots tear of the goddess first trip back and boots merc treads glacial shroud --> Frozenheart Deathfire grasp Zhonya's Abysmal sceptre gives good mr/armor and the zhonya active to keep yourself alive, while still being able to do your job, and providing considerable CC. Ghost/cleanse or Ghost/clarity 9-0-21 Hmm, viegar does need hp, but my build is Dorans ring./health pot Cup Boots (merc) rylais (good hp, and allows kiting) Zhonyas (good damage and survivability) and then either a warmorgs or that lifesteal book to keep me in fights depending how the game is going, then if the game lasts that long, switch my cup for an Archangels, | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
with the right team he will be decent, but the problem with veigar is that merc treads owns his stun, his skyfall thingy is unreliable and his ulti is just another 1 target dps ulti in a game where aoe reigns supreme. the only good thing that makes him viable is his stun, and to maximize it you have to run cdr on veigar imo. if you have a decent team setup and you just need that extra aoe disable, he'll be a good choice. also, he isn't a good mid. he'll have a really hard time killing anyone in mid, and he'll have a harder time surviving. summoner spells NEED to be ghost flash, he is so squishy w/o it. edit: after reading through it seems i'm a little too nice lol. veigar is trashy tier because he just isn't the reliable dps spellcaster that you want. he isn't a dominating presence unless he's solo mid, which he'll do bad in, or he gets fed on a side lane (kind of hard as veigar). if he doesn't get fed all you bring veigar for is an ult that hits no mana heroes like a wuss and an aoe stun. i'd rather have annie/fiddles/etc you name it. | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On June 18 2010 13:44 shawster wrote: veigar is a tricky hero with the right team he will be decent, but the problem with veigar is that merc treads owns his stun, his skyfall thingy is unreliable and his ulti is just another 1 target dps ulti in a game where aoe reigns supreme. the only good thing that makes him viable is his stun, and to maximize it you have to run cdr on veigar imo. if you have a decent team setup and you just need that extra aoe disable, he'll be a good choice. also, he isn't a good mid. he'll have a really hard time killing anyone in mid, and he'll have a harder time surviving. summoner spells NEED to be ghost flash, he is so squishy w/o it. Dont need ghost or flash, i play him mid all the time with exhaust and ignight, almost always get a level 6 kill, and if i dont, no sweat, i gain ap from farming, they dont, i come out on top, as does my team. Edit: and im not playing scrubs, im a high elo eu player. just to clarify  | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On June 18 2010 13:49 Mogget wrote: Dont need ghost or flash, i play him mid all the time with exhaust and ignight, almost always get a level 6 kill, and if i dont, no sweat, i gain ap from farming, they dont, i come out on top, as does my team. exhaust ignite. don't want to be mean but you will die 100% of the time in team fights vs a decent team. exhaust isn't good on casters like period, and they're both cleansable. ask top players, you need ghost flash maybe it's a playstyle diff between continents idk | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
and yea exhaust/ignite really makes you lose credibility, probably the worst combo in the game. I dodge people with exhaust/ignite its that bad. | ||
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FlameSworD
United States414 Posts
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