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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:12 Southlight wrote: Kayle is the strongest carry in the game... I dunno, maybe. She kicks into godmode the fastest, but I think her godmode < Ezreal godmode, but I'm not sure. Either way, the real strongest carry in the game is Amumu, followed by Garen. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
EDIT so this doesn't disappear because of page change: Surprisingly I don't really mind 2v2 lanes since I haven't yet met a problematic lasthitter and tend to get all the farm anyway. If the lane combination is good it normally turns out quite fine. That being said though, what item and skillbuild should I go for as Olaf? I've had gigantic problems with his skillbuild, his E needs to be maxed early for max efficiency but so does his Q, his W speeds everything up as well. There's just so many choices. About his item build, I was thinking about something like 1-2 Warmogs, Atmas, Mallet and Starks and then some survivability, but I haven't been able to figure out a good item build either. I think Olaf should get at least one cooldown reduction item, but I really don't know which. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:24 myopia wrote: Nasus makes farming fun. Last hitting with Q is like a minigame - an incredibly addictive minigame. Then you get to melt whole creepwaves with SF and watch yr golds multiply. You might want to give Veigar a try as well =O | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
I have been using Smite/Clairvoyance and a 1/18/11 mastery setup. the 11 includes extra buff duration and 1g/10sec. I have been using ArPen/mp5pl/CDRpl/CDR(and one arpen) since that's what I own at the moment. My jungle route consists of Blue -> Wolves -> Wraiths -> Red -> Golems -> bp for razors -> dragon. I can generally hit the dragon around 5:45 - 6:00 killing it before 6:30. I've been opening Cloth Armor x5hp but found I can get by without any health pots and only bring one just in case. Is this a decent jungling route/dragon time? What runes should I work on getting for him? I'm thinking ArPen/Armor/CDR/Health Thanks | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:24 Mogwai wrote: Garen cannot singlehandedly turn a game completely around though. I mean, yea, amumu's team dependent, but if you can even slightly rely on them, he provides the most game changing presence in teamfights. Well he isn't about turning losing games around, he's about dominating early and making those games winning games right off the bat, starting with lane denying and tower diving into insane ganks and more towerdiving, then with early sunfires he's almost able to single-handedly kill his under-farmed opposition. Garen's an early-mid carry, Amumu's way later. Amumu probably wins almost every game at like 35 minutes, Garen's point is to make the game unwinnable for the opponents by 20 minutes. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
EDIT: Mogwai, how about skill build? It's the most problematic thing for me atm. Oh I'll give my current idea: Q W Q E Q R Q E Q E R E E W W W W | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
if you want CDR so bad (no idea why tbh), I think you should probably just replace starks with a ghostblade. | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:35 Mogwai wrote: depends if you're jungling or not. iirc, jungling your supposed to ignore E, laning you're supposed to get 1 in q and then ignore it. if you want CDR so bad (no idea why tbh), I think you should probably just replace starks with a ghostblade. Ah the reason I want to get a CDR item is, CDR for E does wonders for your effective DPS, being able to Q every second while chasing or while in a stationary melee battle is amazing, and having W active most of the time is amazing. Sadly I'm not too sure what CDR items would synergize well with Olaf. I think I'll have to use a 11-0-19 mastery setup too, solely for the CDR TT On August 10 2010 00:44 GogoKodo wrote: Hey Mr. 5HitCombo master Cho`gath. I've been looking through some of your posts to try and play Cho myself (I'm only lvl 19 though so I'm missing some runes/masteries). One thing I noticed is that you have quite a bit of MR in most of your screenshots, which is good. I'm curious how your build differs (if at all) against teams without much magic dps because I see that pretty often at my current level of play. I'm awful with Chogath! But you can't go wrong with Sunfires. EDIT: Or just go mass Phantom Dancer and max Vorpal first, it's so gud | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
So okay I have a general idea, then just runes and masteries. I'm thinking about apen, then dodge, magic resist per level, and hp quints or armor pen, but actually... Was also thinking of a apen, mres/lvl, cdr/lvl, cdr set O_o | ||
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KazuoKiriyama
United Kingdom29 Posts
It was written in the last week and so all information is up-to-date and will be maintained as such. http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/7106-kazuokiriyama-s-competitive-guide-to-season-1-twisted-fate.xhtml Please rate if you get the chance as otherwise guides tend not to get read which is a shame considering the hours people put into them, Thanks. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Q is the best jungling/chasing skill, W is good for damage and survivability, E is good for nuking... I need to play him more though. | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
But i dont really know any builds. All i do is mass HoGs and then buy GA. :/ | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Q W Q W E R -> max E That way you'd have a decent slow and nice jungling with W and the early benefit of the E nuke... Hmmm =S So many options, Olaf must have the most varying item build in the game. On August 10 2010 01:35 Gao Xi wrote: Damn, I played Garen for the 1st time ever today and I'm already 3-0 with him. :D But i dont really know any builds. All i do is mass HoGs and then buy GA. :/ My imba low-elostomp item build: Merc, Sunfire, Sunfire, Sunfire, FoN, GA. Replace FoN with Atmas if they don't have amazing magic damage. Been working amazingly well. With the early domination you'll get a 10min sunfire, after which you can towerdive anything like a boss. The only game I've lost with this build around 1350-1400 ranked Elo I went something like 16-5-12 in. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On August 09 2010 16:58 BluzMan wrote: That shit develops a lot of bad habits. I'm really sick of people taking mid with crap like Xin Zhao when I play Kass or people refusing to go Morgana with my Garen because "that Warwick is my friend so I will lane with him". Yes, he is your friend, but Garen with Morgana produces kills and wins lanes and laning WW is a fail no matter how you look at it. This egoistical approach many people have does the game no good. It's common for many people even here on TL. "My team sucks so I will go mid and carry" they say and they completely wreck the game with it even though there's a better laning choice in many cases. It gets less common the closer you are to lvl 30 because people slowly tend to realize there's no way to win 1v5 but still the amount of laning composition fuckups is enormous. Yesterday, because of another premade I had to lane as Garen with GP. He didn't even deny or harass, he just spent all his mana lasthitting creeps with Parrley. Yes, this made him farm alot, but that lane was SOOO much of a wasted potential. The simple fact is that I don't trust my teammates to make good use of mid, while I do trust myself to do so. I played Xin in 8 of my last 10 games, here's how they went: Xin Zhao - 12-4, victory Xin Zhao - 5-1, victory Xin Zhao - 4-1, victory Xin Zhao - 8-1, victory Xin Zhao - 5-2, victory Xin Zhao - 24-6, victory Xin Zhao 12-2, victory I believe that I, as Xin, am going to be more successful going middle than the vast majority of solo queuers who could also go middle--hell, a surprising amount of the time my kills+assists add up to the total of my team's kills up to the 25 minute mark. If I'm playing in a premade with people I know are good and the other team has a hero that can mid somewhat competently (as Southlight I believe said, Xin destroys Ashe/TF and a few other heroes), I have no problem going a sidelane. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
boots + hp pots Boots of Swiftness or Merc Treads depending on the game sunfire GA FoN sunfire herpdederp (usually IE, lol) | ||
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