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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 09 2010 17:43 GMT
#11101
Ezreal and Trist farm very quickly and, assuming they play it right, get stacks pretty easily. Plus the lifesteal makes it much less punishing to go kill a buff creep (ie. lizard). This is particularly the case for a hero like Sivir, who often stacks BTs because it's so damn easy to get stacks.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 09 2010 17:49 GMT
#11102
do you understand that the stacks come off of creep/minion kills? for fast farmers, it's pretty easy to get fully stacked thirsters.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 09 2010 17:50 GMT
#11103
On August 10 2010 00:44 GogoKodo wrote:
Hey Mr. 5HitCombo master Cho`gath. I've been looking through some of your posts to try and play Cho myself (I'm only lvl 19 though so I'm missing some runes/masteries). One thing I noticed is that you have quite a bit of MR in most of your screenshots, which is good. I'm curious how your build differs (if at all) against teams without much magic dps because I see that pretty often at my current level of play.

I like to play against physical teams because it puts you in relatively small amounts of danger. They can't kite you if you're smart enough not to get kited and you have really good escape options with well-placed ruptures. Against teams like this I usually rush GA after one or two NLRs and get a thornmail afterward if they're still hitting hard. I'm gaining more and more respect for sunfires, but I still think that you're better off playing a behind-the-scenes role until you're just too beastly for them to stop.

Personally, I think you should actually use the build I used at that level because it's so much fun:

regen pendant
basic boots
mejais
leviathan (finish boots sometime, I like mobility or swiftness if they don't have tons of cc)
--> if the game looks like it's going long, Warmog's
if the game is close, skip warmog's and get GA
Zhonya's
Situational survivability like FoN or Thornmail

Work on stacking towards 20 stacks .

Super fun, but not as viable at high Elo. You will dominate people super hard if you get rolling, though .
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 09 2010 17:53 GMT
#11104
On August 10 2010 02:49 Mogwai wrote:
do you understand that the stacks come off of creep/minion kills? for fast farmers, it's pretty easy to get fully stacked thirsters.


Especially if you're Yiruru with his frikkin 300-700 creep stats.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 18:04:05
August 09 2010 17:59 GMT
#11105
On August 10 2010 02:43 Southlight wrote:
Ezreal and Trist farm very quickly and, assuming they play it right, get stacks pretty easily. Plus the lifesteal makes it much less punishing to go kill a buff creep (ie. lizard). This is particularly the case for a hero like Sivir, who often stacks BTs because it's so damn easy to get stacks.


On August 10 2010 02:49 Mogwai wrote:
do you understand that the stacks come off of creep/minion kills? for fast farmers, it's pretty easy to get fully stacked thirsters.

Ok, that explains a lot. You see, Mejais etc. says "2 stacks per kill", while Warmogs says "per minion kill". So just from those tooltips I assumed that The Bloodthirster was based on champion kills as well. I always wondered why it would be capped at an impossible to reach 40 champion kills, but it never came to my mind that it could be based on minion kills...
I guess I'll have to start getting Bloodthirsters too now...

Those tooltips really should be more precise. Ideally you would know exactly which game mechanics are used, much like D2, though it would be a bit harder to do properly since there are more complex mechanics in LoL...

Does each BT get its own stack (probably still shown as 1 cumulative stack) or do they all contribute to a common stack that caps at 40?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
August 09 2010 17:59 GMT
#11106
bah. no more ezreal or ww.

gonna learn shen. does anybody have a proper guide for him?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 18:03:38
August 09 2010 18:03 GMT
#11107
oh
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 18:24:15
August 09 2010 18:07 GMT
#11108
On August 10 2010 02:59 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 02:43 Southlight wrote:
Ezreal and Trist farm very quickly and, assuming they play it right, get stacks pretty easily. Plus the lifesteal makes it much less punishing to go kill a buff creep (ie. lizard). This is particularly the case for a hero like Sivir, who often stacks BTs because it's so damn easy to get stacks.


Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 02:49 Mogwai wrote:
do you understand that the stacks come off of creep/minion kills? for fast farmers, it's pretty easy to get fully stacked thirsters.

Ok, that explains a lot. You see, Mejais etc. says "2 stacks per kill", while Warmogs says "per minion kill". So just from those tooltips I assumed that The Bloodthirster was based on champion kills as well. I always wondered why it would be capped at an impossible to reach 40 champion kills, but it never came to my mind that it could be based on minion kills...
I guess I'll have to start getting Bloodthirsters too now...

Those tooltips really should be more precise. Ideally you would know exactly which game mechanics are used, much like D2, though it would be a bit harder to do properly since there are more complex mechanics in LoL...

Does each BT get its own stack (probably still shown as 1 cumulative stack) or do they all contribute to a common stack that caps at 40?

each gets their own. Say you have 5 BTs, then each Creep you kill gives you + 5 AD and 1.25% Lifesteal, capping at 40 apiece (total 200 AD and 50% lifesteal on top of the base 300 AD and 75% lifesteal).

EDIT: Gunblade looks a lot more appealing at 60 AD and 75 AP, not sure if it'll be worthwhile or not, but it's a lot closer now IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 09 2010 18:28 GMT
#11109
On August 10 2010 02:59 goldenkrnboi wrote:
bah. no more ezreal or ww.

gonna learn shen. does anybody have a proper guide for him?


check the op
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 09 2010 18:32 GMT
#11110
man, I checked my Pantheon guide linked in the first post. Totally out of date, I just updated it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 18:34:54
August 09 2010 18:34 GMT
#11111
On August 10 2010 03:32 Mogwai wrote:
man, I checked my Pantheon guide linked in the first post. Totally out of date, I just updated it.


Without checking, did you change it to

GUIDE: Pantheon
He sucks don't play him.

Edit:
Wow you did, look at that predictability.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 09 2010 18:42 GMT
#11112
this horse is not dead yet, I will keep beating it!
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
August 09 2010 18:53 GMT
#11113
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
August 09 2010 18:53 GMT
#11114
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 09 2010 18:53 GMT
#11115
Have you been checking LiquidParty? :o
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 19:13:40
August 09 2010 19:10 GMT
#11116
On August 10 2010 03:34 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 03:32 Mogwai wrote:
man, I checked my Pantheon guide linked in the first post. Totally out of date, I just updated it.


Without checking, did you change it to

GUIDE: Pantheon
He sucks don't play him.

Edit:
Wow you did, look at that predictability.


hahaha i lol'd. dont give up smash!!! you can make it work!!! (jk panth is trash. riot fail)

*edit
to randomkorean, ashe and ezreal really require good positioning because you are squishy as hell. dont bother building too much survival early in the game cause that will just gimp you.

ez you prolly want to do something like doran blade or shield(recommend shield if you are lower level) into sheen+brutalizer and merc treads. then just get black cleaver, maybe some survival, finish up youmuu.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 09 2010 19:13 GMT
#11117
I just hope they never do it to Kassadin, but as far as I can tell most people struggle with him, so he's safe for now.
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 09 2010 19:14 GMT
#11118
On August 10 2010 04:13 Southlight wrote:
I just hope they never do it to Kassadin, but as far as I can tell most people struggle with him, so he's safe for now.


he takes more thinking to play imo. so i think you are safe. i think garen might get a nerf soon, which is why im hesitant to buy him.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 09 2010 19:18 GMT
#11119
On August 10 2010 04:13 Southlight wrote:
I just hope they never do it to Kassadin, but as far as I can tell most people struggle with him, so he's safe for now.

BUT HE'S STILL SO GIMPED BY HIS SHITTY PASSIVE THAT'S ONLY LIKE 3.75 POINTS IN LEVEL 21 DEFENSIVE MASTERY!!!! KASS IS TRASH LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

even phreak still makes fun of Kass sucking, so I'm assuming Riot has no fucking idea that he's as good as he is.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 09 2010 19:24 GMT
#11120
I looked at a lot of peoples' records with Kassadin and they aren't usually that good. I'm not sure, I used to think Kassadin was terrible, too, until I started playing him, then I went what the hell I'm controlling a god. And the number of Kassadin players in the top 500 is still pretty small, mostly limited to me, the Koreans, and a handful of guys like Merakon. Either he's still floating under the radar, or there's a huge divide between people that "get him" and the people that don't. I'm hoping it's the latter, because I can think of a bunch of other heroes that simply floated under the radar, got discovered, exploded, and got nerfed. Like, you know, Pantheon and now Garen.
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