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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 06 2010 16:04 GMT
#10621
Well obviously Garen is UP guys and everyone here on TL who has been playing him is a noob.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 16:11:33
August 06 2010 16:09 GMT
#10622
On August 07 2010 01:04 STS17 wrote:
Well obviously Garen is UP guys and everyone here on TL who has been playing him is a noob.

I absolutely love how every post in the thread that implies that Garen is UP is positive and ones that imply Garen is okay are negative. There aren't even any Garen OP posts but they'd probably be in the -100's.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2298753#post2298753

Whoever +1'd me is a genius.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 06 2010 16:29 GMT
#10623
nice trolling shikyo
BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
August 06 2010 16:36 GMT
#10624
Pretty funny stuff, I can't believe you didn't get -1'd to hell(yet) for mentioning Malady on a forum that can't take a joke.
Borsalino for life.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 06 2010 16:36 GMT
#10625
hmm someone mentioned yi ap?
its MUCH better to go AD yi to back door turrets and go rage blade of AP regen 2nd skill late game. AP yi simply negate his ability to jungle + dragon early. Yi is not a killer so mejai is a waste on him. Trust me, yi AD + teleport + wards => backdoor + win
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 06 2010 16:50 GMT
#10626
0-4-4 Kayle. I don't think I've ever done well with this champion =S

I guess it didn't help that our leader first picked Ashe and then they pick Janna/Ezreal and then our Sion leaves at lvl 3. But yeah for some reason I feel like I can't accomplish anything with Kayle ever.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 06 2010 17:03 GMT
#10627
On August 07 2010 01:50 Shikyo wrote:
0-4-4 Kayle. I don't think I've ever done well with this champion =S

I guess it didn't help that our leader first picked Ashe and then they pick Janna/Ezreal and then our Sion leaves at lvl 3. But yeah for some reason I feel like I can't accomplish anything with Kayle ever.

Even after you have rageblade and tooth? And before you get them, do you have enough mp5 and/or clarity to use a ton of abilities?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 06 2010 17:07 GMT
#10628
I'm trying to work on my Kayle build myself. I've been debating between starting Doran's Ring, a Long Sword (for SOTO) or a Meki Pendant/Amp Tome/Dagger for an earlier Nashor's Tooth after the rageblade.

I know the ring helps with survivability but I've found that health pots are sufficient early on until I can get my heal. Long Sword/Amp Tome lets me hit harder off the bat with Q/E combo while the Dagger helps my attack speed for more hits while E is active.

Thoughts?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2010 17:08 GMT
#10629
On August 07 2010 02:03 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 01:50 Shikyo wrote:
0-4-4 Kayle. I don't think I've ever done well with this champion =S

I guess it didn't help that our leader first picked Ashe and then they pick Janna/Ezreal and then our Sion leaves at lvl 3. But yeah for some reason I feel like I can't accomplish anything with Kayle ever.

Even after you have rageblade and tooth? And before you get them, do you have enough mp5 and/or clarity to use a ton of abilities?


I would not solo q as Kayle without Cleanse/Ghost. If you're going to solo a lane, you want a get-out-of-team-gank-jail card. Clarity is nice but you shouldn't need that much mana with just Mp5/L runes.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 06 2010 17:08 GMT
#10630
Just a note to people starting practice games:
If you start before the 10th guy's level loads, ( it shows default level 1 , then changes into their real level),
it glitches the game, and the game, no matter what it was, turns into 5v4, all random.
Just FYI
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2010 17:16 GMT
#10631
You play too many practice games.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 06 2010 17:18 GMT
#10632
On August 07 2010 02:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 02:03 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 07 2010 01:50 Shikyo wrote:
0-4-4 Kayle. I don't think I've ever done well with this champion =S

I guess it didn't help that our leader first picked Ashe and then they pick Janna/Ezreal and then our Sion leaves at lvl 3. But yeah for some reason I feel like I can't accomplish anything with Kayle ever.

Even after you have rageblade and tooth? And before you get them, do you have enough mp5 and/or clarity to use a ton of abilities?


I would not solo q as Kayle without Cleanse/Ghost. If you're going to solo a lane, you want a get-out-of-team-gank-jail card. Clarity is nice but you shouldn't need that much mana with just Mp5/L runes.

Kayle was my mainstay for solo queue (I've never duo queued) from 1200 to 1500 and I took a solo lane maybe twice. I always took clarity/ignite haha. Obviously it's a much more offensive way to play but it makes for a very strong early game. If I was worried about early survivability, I'd open doran's ring for the extra hp, otherwise meki. But I can definitely see the merit of Cleanse/Ghost.

I did make use of Clarity in early laning, even with the mp5 mastery and mp5 runes. And I've had a couple of clutch clarities in late game (with the clarity mastery), since sometimes I find myself keeping a push alive with my healing long enough for everyone to get low on mana, so clarity makes all that healing actually mean something.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Norp
Profile Joined April 2010
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 17:25:04
August 06 2010 17:22 GMT
#10633
I usually run ghost/flash for Kayle, start meki (turns into codex later anyway, need for Nashors), or Dorans ring if you have mp5 runes already. Rush any flavor of upgraded boots (Swiftness, berserker, and mercury are all good), and rageblade then your actually viable to kill things. Generally at that point you are a dominating force and can easily farm up stinger and start triple elixir and it just gets out of control. This is all assuming your solo and farming up of course, which is how Kayle should be played imo.

The only thing is early game your pretty weak, its hard to die but its possible to be shut out of farm. I'd still say in a pug solo queue Kayle is one of, if not the strongest carry choices.
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
August 06 2010 17:24 GMT
#10634
On August 07 2010 02:22 Norp wrote:
I usually run ghost/flash for Kayle, start meki (turns into codex later anyway, need for Nashors), or Dorans ring if you have mp5 runes already. Rush Mercury/attack speed boots, and rageblade then your actually viable to kill things. Generally at that point you are a dominating force and can easily farm up stinger and start triple elixir and it just gets out of control.

The only thing is early game your pretty weak, its hard to die but its possible to be shut out of farm. I'd still say in a pug solo queue Kayle is one of, if not the strongest carry choices.


Whats the skilling order for Kayle generally?
Unprotected sex is like fast expanding in close positions. Its risky, but feels great when it works out
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 06 2010 17:27 GMT
#10635
On August 07 2010 00:34 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 00:27 myopia wrote:
AP Yi can 1v2 lane against virtually anyone but people hate me when I build that way so I'm looking for other ways to play him.

He seriously can't. Your opponents must be terrible or something, since if they know what they're doing with a decent lineup(not jax-trynd), they can start denying you from level 1 and you really can't do anything about it.

I disagree, AP Yi in a 1v2 lane is the only real way to play him. It's hard to zone him too hard because Alpha Strike on a creep that dies before you finish Alpha leaves you in the same spot that you started from in the first place. There's no way to perfectly zone, eventually all the creeps will come to the tower anyway. Plus the fact that a 1v2 lane means you have a jungler, who can always come for gank if you're getting zoned too hard.

I just think that even at a higher level, AP Yi is viable. AD is nice too, though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 06 2010 17:31 GMT
#10636
^ EWQ then R > Q = W > E

if you're feeling greedy with opening with Kayle, go boots or meki. d-ring is still the safest option and I take it when I need to solo.

I do 9/0/21 on 2 man lanes, 0/9/21 on solos.

Ghost Cleanse

AS/Mp5pL/Mp5pL/MS
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Nabber
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom11 Posts
August 06 2010 17:32 GMT
#10637
Hey, just a quick question about LoL servers - currently i play on the EU servers (from good ol' England) but i am finding it increasingly frustrating that 85% of the people i play with do not speak english. I know its a fault of my own for being linguistically challenged, but it doesn't change the fact that i cannot learn German/French/Russian/Spanish/Croatian/etc during the game of 30 minutes, so am wanting to change to US servers.
Problem is, my internet has a bandwidth limit for downloads per month, and after downloading my starcraft 2 and the eu client, i'm left with about 5 gb of my 20 gb limit for the rest of the month. Is there a way at all to change client from one server to another? I searched google for this but found nothing to this end?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 06 2010 17:45 GMT
#10638
On June 30 2010 04:52 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:38 HazMat wrote:
On June 30 2010 04:03 Southlight wrote:
The ult's pretty hax now. Parrley is definitely his worst skill at this point, which is kinda amusing.

On a different note (but back to the topic of jungling), I found out the other day you can jungle with Yi without even getting Smite, which is pretty nasty (one of the biggest bottlenecks of jungling is having to take Smite as one of your skills). He obviously suffers some timeloss because of not having Smite, especially with an unlucky Alpha vs stone golems, but with the recent change to creep reactions to teleport, it's very very viable.

Soloside taught me how to jungle yi without smite a couple weeks back.

Too bad that if you don't land a lucky alpha strike you can get screwed.


SCENE: A dark room, with a desk and desklamp at its center.
SOLOSIDE: My young padawan, today I shall teach you the secret to jungling without Smite with Master Yi.
HAZMAT: Yes, my lord?
SOLOSIDE: You press Q.
HAZMAT: Yes?
SOLOSIDE: And click on some random creep.
HAZMAT: And?
SOLOSIDE: And that is it.

I think now is an appropriate time to resurrect this quote.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 06 2010 17:53 GMT
#10639
What's this 'creep reactions to teleport'?



...and how long has this:
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 06 2010 17:55 GMT
#10640
On August 07 2010 02:45 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:52 Southlight wrote:
On June 30 2010 04:38 HazMat wrote:
On June 30 2010 04:03 Southlight wrote:
The ult's pretty hax now. Parrley is definitely his worst skill at this point, which is kinda amusing.

On a different note (but back to the topic of jungling), I found out the other day you can jungle with Yi without even getting Smite, which is pretty nasty (one of the biggest bottlenecks of jungling is having to take Smite as one of your skills). He obviously suffers some timeloss because of not having Smite, especially with an unlucky Alpha vs stone golems, but with the recent change to creep reactions to teleport, it's very very viable.

Soloside taught me how to jungle yi without smite a couple weeks back.

Too bad that if you don't land a lucky alpha strike you can get screwed.


SCENE: A dark room, with a desk and desklamp at its center.
SOLOSIDE: My young padawan, today I shall teach you the secret to jungling without Smite with Master Yi.
HAZMAT: Yes, my lord?
SOLOSIDE: You press Q.
HAZMAT: Yes?
SOLOSIDE: And click on some random creep.
HAZMAT: And?
SOLOSIDE: And that is it.

I think now is an appropriate time to resurrect this quote.


lol that should be linked to as a guide for jungle yi. do it southlight!
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