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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 06 2010 14:58 GMT
#10601
Allright guys, I need help.
I cant play the game anymore because it keeps crashing, its not about reinstalling the game, because the EU version wont work either.
God damn it, what the hell happend ?
In the woods, there lurks..
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 06 2010 15:03 GMT
#10602
On August 06 2010 22:47 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 17:28 Shikyo wrote:
On August 06 2010 17:27 redtooth wrote:
also, so many new faces in thread. why has LoL's popularity increased after sc2's release?

Everyone realized that after the campaign is cleared, the game really is quite mediocre

lol well yeah but then you go play multiplayer and it's endless

it's teamliquid's popularity that has increased (because of sc2) so there are more people everywhere on teamliquid, including threads for other games


Except how the multiplayer sucks ass.

Nobody would quit BW to move to SC2 if it wasn't named SC2.

On August 06 2010 15:43 BlackHat wrote:
So after having played TF for a little while now I have decided that he needs at least one survivability item. My solution to this is going Doran's Blade >Boots1 or BF if I have that much on first b >finish boots >Frozen Mallet. I really notice the extra health since TF is one of the squishiest in the game.

What do you guys think? Is there a better option than FM, or when you get to high elo does it not matter? I feel like the HP is a better option than armor/mr, since I rely on autoattacks and FM enhances those while chainmail/negatron do not. But then I am not all that good at the game just yet so I thought I would ask.


No, TF doesn't need any extra survivability.

Just go Revive.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 06 2010 15:08 GMT
#10603
He doesn't really need survivability. Just stun and hope they're dead by the time stun is gone. If no, run away until stun is up again.

:S
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 06 2010 15:09 GMT
#10604
Survival items on carries depends on the game etc. I've seen top-tier Ashes build GA, for instance.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 15:12:30
August 06 2010 15:10 GMT
#10605
hahaha ITT: people arguing with NonY about SC2


That linked Nasus guide is very good. I wish non-Nasus players would read it, it's annoying to get stuck with a bad teammate who has no idea how I roll in the lane.


also could someone point me to a good guide for jungle Yi?
it's my first day
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 06 2010 15:11 GMT
#10606
"Nobody would quit BW to move to SC2 if it wasn't named SC2."

Yeah, pretty sure if the gameplay was the exact same and it was called "command and conquer 5" no one would play it
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 06 2010 15:16 GMT
#10607
Keep SC2 bitching etc. in the SC2 forum or whatnot, please -_-

I dunno if there're any guides for Jungle Yi but the start of the game is spent praying Alpha Strike procs (if you take Smite you've got a bit more leeway for bad Alpha Strike streaks). IIRC people tend to open Vamp for the lifesteal, and then they go something like Vamp -> Ghostblade, or Vamp -> Madred -> Ghostblade -> Lantern/Bloodrazor, or something like that. I've also seen some people just go Vamp -> Ghostblade -> Thirster, etc. AFAIK there's no set build order, as no one really knows if he has a fully optimal item set. It's just recommended you get GB because that item was like made for Yi, and with Ghost gives him essentially 3 Ghosts.

If played well you should be racking up kills and disrupting enemy jungles because Alpha is retarded like that, and with Liz buff you've essentially got a teleport + chase + snare. If played bad or you're stuck in a game with bad laners you've got a harder time than other dedicated ganker junglers (like WW/Udyr) turning stuff around because you're not as good at soaking up damage and mitigating errors that way.
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 06 2010 15:22 GMT
#10608
Yi is an okay jungler. The reason people open vamp is cause you can take 3 camps recall and get emblem and cleaning jungle for both buffs is ez mode. To really keep up in jungle you'd have to go cloth armor 5 pots or red pot. I really have no idea if cloth armor can clean jungle in one go but im pretty sure you can just lvl 1 golem and be perfectly fine.

Overall though I feel yi should be in a solo lane since id rather not rely on ganks to get my farm rolling nor waste money on items to help me jungle when I'm looking to get ghostblade/ie and 3 shot ashes.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 06 2010 15:25 GMT
#10609
On August 07 2010 00:22 mrgerry wrote:
Overall though I feel yi should be in a solo lane since id rather not rely on ganks to get my farm rolling nor waste money on items to help me jungle when I'm looking to get ghostblade/ie and 3 shot ashes.


Laning can be pretty risky too, if you can get a good lane matchup it works out but if you run into a bad matchup you can be jacked out of the game... I think the consistency of jungle farm and abusing Alpha + Liz is why a lot of people jungle Yi.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 06 2010 15:27 GMT
#10610
AP Yi can 1v2 lane against virtually anyone but people hate me when I build that way so I'm looking for other ways to play him.
it's my first day
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 06 2010 15:31 GMT
#10611
Yi meet Kassadin, Vlad, etc.

It is not a pretty sight, I'll tell you that.
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BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
August 06 2010 15:31 GMT
#10612
I saw someone post a TF strat with revive that involved dying to jungle creeps as soon as they spawn, but that's early on cheesiness. I don't have much of a problem staying alive until team fights start, and with frozen mallet I will still die quickly, but not instantly. I would prefer them to have to blow an extra cooldown or two to kill me rather than, "A wild Shaco appears! It's super effective! TF faints."

@Shikyo 3 Doran's blades? Is that a joke or a master strat? If you were serious, do you get anything to replace the hp loss when you sell one to make room? Like I was saying it's not early on where I run into problems but later when just an errant ability or hurtful glance will put TF in the respawn bin. Not trying to put down on the advice, just trying to clarify, it seems like getting 3 blades plus boots delays your BF past it's prime usefulness stage.

@Cow I figured you were probably being sarcastic, but someone did post a revive strat with the mastery for extra hp. If that was you then I do remember about it, but I haven't tried it yet. I don't know if the immediate advantage is worth not having a different summoner spell.

Something to note is I solo-queue a lot so it's harder to rely on positioning or a good tank over survivability, especially at my level. I'll prolly keep building it till it doesn't work anymore, I was just looking for some input.
Borsalino for life.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 06 2010 15:32 GMT
#10613
How is Yi's AP scaling anyways?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 15:37:13
August 06 2010 15:34 GMT
#10614
On August 07 2010 00:27 myopia wrote:
AP Yi can 1v2 lane against virtually anyone but people hate me when I build that way so I'm looking for other ways to play him.

He seriously can't. Your opponents must be terrible or something, since if they know what they're doing with a decent lineup(not jax-trynd), they can start denying you from level 1 and you really can't do anything about it.

On August 07 2010 00:32 STS17 wrote:
How is Yi's AP scaling anyways?

1:1 and 1.5:1

On August 07 2010 00:31 BlackHat wrote:
@Shikyo 3 Doran's blades? Is that a joke or a master strat? If you were serious, do you get anything to replace the hp loss when you sell one to make room? Like I was saying it's not early on where I run into problems but later when just an errant ability or hurtful glance will put TF in the respawn bin. Not trying to put down on the advice, just trying to clarify, it seems like getting 3 blades plus boots delays your BF past it's prime usefulness stage.

If I'm having trouble and need some survivability I like getting about 3 Dorans blades. Gives you a buttload of HP, enough lifesteal for lanestaying and some extra damage.

When you're at the point where you need to sell them for extra items, you'll already have quite a bit of hp from just leveling up.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 15:39:15
August 06 2010 15:36 GMT
#10615
On August 07 2010 00:32 STS17 wrote:
How is Yi's AP scaling anyways?


1:1 on Alpha Strike

1.65:1 on Meditate

If you get the right items you can end up bursting for 600 x 4 champions plus lichbane proc, then healing yourself right back up with meditate, or you could get lucky with a highlander kill and alpha strike again effectively wiping the enemy team.

Unfortunately I'm not practiced enough to get this to work without an amazing team.

On August 07 2010 00:34 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 00:27 myopia wrote:
AP Yi can 1v2 lane against virtually anyone but people hate me when I build that way so I'm looking for other ways to play him.

He seriously can't. Your opponents must be terrible or something, since if they know what they're doing with a decent lineup(not jax-trynd), they can start denying you from level 1 and you really can't do anything about it.


Yeah I don't doubt the people I play with are awful. I've managed to do pretty well just alpha striking while hugging the turret. I should put a disclaimer on all my posts "no ranked experience yet"
it's my first day
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 15:44:08
August 06 2010 15:39 GMT
#10616
On August 07 2010 00:36 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 00:32 STS17 wrote:
How is Yi's AP scaling anyways?


1:1 on Alpha Strike

1.65:1 on Meditate

If you get the right items you can end up bursting for 600 x 4 champions plus lichbane proc, then healing yourself right back up with meditate, or you could get lucky with a highlander kill and alpha strike again effectively wiping the enemy team.

Unfortunately I'm not practiced enough to get this to work without an amazing team.


The standard AP Yi goal in a teamfight is to blatantly KS someone with Alpha Strike while Highlander is activated, and then instantly Alpha Striking again. If you get lucky and KS again, you can Alpha strike for a third time, although that's more of a best-case scenario. After your KS and the following Alpha Strike, just highlander and autoattack it up and if you're running low, Meditate and if they have no disables ready, you'll be the best tank in the game for 8 seconds.

AP Yi's teamfight presence relies almost completely on KSing with the first AS.


Yeah I don't doubt the people I play with are awful. I've managed to do pretty well just alpha striking while hugging the turret. I should put a disclaimer on all my posts "no ranked experience yet"


By the way, have you ever encountered a lane of 2 ranged(not even necessary always) champions who right at the start, right after caster minions have acquired their targets, just run to you? They don't even need to attack, at this point you're forced to run away or die after they start attacking when they get in position. Then they'll just lasthit while you can't get close. I don't think Yi has an answer.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 06 2010 15:45 GMT
#10617
@Cow I figured you were probably being sarcastic, but someone did post a revive strat with the mastery for extra hp. If that was you then I do remember about it, but I haven't tried it yet. I don't know if the immediate advantage is worth not having a different summoner spell.


I don't think I was the one that posted that, but I was serious.

If you get focused and killed in a team fight, just revive and ult back in. Same idea as revive on pantheon.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 15:49:44
August 06 2010 15:47 GMT
#10618
On August 07 2010 00:45 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
@Cow I figured you were probably being sarcastic, but someone did post a revive strat with the mastery for extra hp. If that was you then I do remember about it, but I haven't tried it yet. I don't know if the immediate advantage is worth not having a different summoner spell.


I don't think I was the one that posted that, but I was serious.

If you get focused and killed in a team fight, just revive and ult back in. Same idea as revive on pantheon.

But don't forget to suicide to wraiths at the start, the extra hp lets you completely wreck your lane.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=157581
The general consensus about Garen is hilarious.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 06 2010 15:53 GMT
#10619
On August 07 2010 00:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 00:45 APurpleCow wrote:
@Cow I figured you were probably being sarcastic, but someone did post a revive strat with the mastery for extra hp. If that was you then I do remember about it, but I haven't tried it yet. I don't know if the immediate advantage is worth not having a different summoner spell.


I don't think I was the one that posted that, but I was serious.

If you get focused and killed in a team fight, just revive and ult back in. Same idea as revive on pantheon.

But don't forget to suicide to wraiths at the start, the extra hp lets you completely wreck your lane.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=157581
The general consensus about Garen is hilarious.

haha i love this
another thign with garens ult is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to "execute" Poppy with it because of her passive... so yeah, and his ult need a minor buff, maybe true damage but maybe just a slight base damage increase


this is a major issue!!!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 06 2010 15:56 GMT
#10620
That reminds me of something, if Udyr has 400 attack damage but is using his Tiger Stance, does Poppy's passive reduce his attacks if she has 3000 hp and 0 armor(hypotethical)?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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