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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 06 2010 17:57 GMT
#10641
I just lost a game with Ezreal(first loss with him), went 7-7-7. I felt completely useless against their 3-tank and rest ranged lineup. I could only poke at the tanks and did laughable damage and whenever I went close, I was always focused down. I guess even Ezreal can have a tough time sometimes.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 06 2010 18:03 GMT
#10642
i hate tank teams -.-

actually just the most irritating crap ever
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
August 06 2010 18:03 GMT
#10643
didnt u have cleaver for arm pen?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 18:07:41
August 06 2010 18:06 GMT
#10644
No, I had to get Banshee Veil in order to not get owned in 0.2 seconds, no one in my team apart from shen had any surviv

EDIT: but I don't think it'd have mattered that much, most fights were like me spamming Q from max distance while my team melts, then I have to run.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 06 2010 18:12 GMT
#10645
I honestly dont really know what to do as ezreal against teams with 3+ tanks. Sure, i almost always get mass farmed, but even with triforce/cleaver/brutalizer/bloodrazors, i still have trouble taking down hp on such tanky people
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2010 18:17 GMT
#10646
On August 07 2010 02:18 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 02:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 07 2010 02:03 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 07 2010 01:50 Shikyo wrote:
0-4-4 Kayle. I don't think I've ever done well with this champion =S

I guess it didn't help that our leader first picked Ashe and then they pick Janna/Ezreal and then our Sion leaves at lvl 3. But yeah for some reason I feel like I can't accomplish anything with Kayle ever.

Even after you have rageblade and tooth? And before you get them, do you have enough mp5 and/or clarity to use a ton of abilities?


I would not solo q as Kayle without Cleanse/Ghost. If you're going to solo a lane, you want a get-out-of-team-gank-jail card. Clarity is nice but you shouldn't need that much mana with just Mp5/L runes.

Kayle was my mainstay for solo queue (I've never duo queued) from 1200 to 1500 and I took a solo lane maybe twice. I always took clarity/ignite haha. Obviously it's a much more offensive way to play but it makes for a very strong early game. If I was worried about early survivability, I'd open doran's ring for the extra hp, otherwise meki. But I can definitely see the merit of Cleanse/Ghost.

I did make use of Clarity in early laning, even with the mp5 mastery and mp5 runes. And I've had a couple of clutch clarities in late game (with the clarity mastery), since sometimes I find myself keeping a push alive with my healing long enough for everyone to get low on mana, so clarity makes all that healing actually mean something.


I just build the "standard" Kayle that HSGG and jiji use. Open Ring. E as first will. Max R > W > E. Leave Q for last. Lane as long as possible and typically by level 10-11, you should have their tower down (assuming this is 1v1 top). Port home and build Rageblade and Zerker Greaves in one run. If I do have to port home earlier than I want, you get that Meki Pendant then pieces of your RageBlade. I find that with Ring and Meki, you can lane for a long time. Use E to last hit, harass, hit towers, etc.

Your build is much more offensive but I do see that you'd have to port home sooner than later.
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2010 18:33 GMT
#10647
Imo they should add something for the dodgers such as myself, the journal of justice isn't enough for me after the 2nd dodge...

Something like tetris with character sprites to play while in the game lobby would be really nice and easy to implement too.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 06 2010 18:38 GMT
#10648
On August 07 2010 02:55 Orpheos wrote:
lol that should be linked to as a guide for jungle yi. do it southlight!


Done.

I prefer the jiji-Korean Kayle over the "standard" grandjudge Kayle... RGB -> IE -> LW while triple elixir over the old RGB Nashor Starks shenanigan. They hit harder, they attack slower but they just like 4-shot squishies.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2010 18:42 GMT
#10649
Good old IEdge + LW. Never fails on deeps.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 18:44:09
August 06 2010 18:43 GMT
#10650
I do a little from column A and a little from column B -_-.

Ring -> Zerker -> GRB -> Nashor -> Elixir Pump -> I.E. parts when I can afford them through my elixir pump.

Though, tbh, I've been considering axing Nashor's for LW and seeing what happens. Seems to me that that should actually kill towers even quicker -_-;; plus it lets you get to work on your elixir pump and IE faster. I'll miss the perma-E and the higher health heals though.

EDIT: and LW is really sick on my build cuz I don't get any flat pen that would lose efficiency by buying % armor pen.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 06 2010 18:47 GMT
#10651
I just need to play more, but reading + work + SC2 + LoL > me. And then in September I'll have school + Legend of Heroes to go through, too, nyargh!

It's the weekend though, I'll try to stay up later than 9pm for once.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 18:49:05
August 06 2010 18:48 GMT
#10652
On August 07 2010 03:38 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 02:55 Orpheos wrote:
lol that should be linked to as a guide for jungle yi. do it southlight!


Done.

I prefer the jiji-Korean Kayle over the "standard" grandjudge Kayle... RGB -> IE -> LW while triple elixir over the old RGB Nashor Starks shenanigan. They hit harder, they attack slower but they just like 4-shot squishies.

Sure you dont wanna specify anymore than alpha strike spamm? Or is that fullproof? -_-'

Also Kayle is spelled "kaye" in the guides section fyi.
In the woods, there lurks..
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 06 2010 18:49 GMT
#10653
^ I dun believe u! I'll just have to elo climb with Turkey moar.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 06 2010 18:49 GMT
#10654
On August 07 2010 03:49 Mogwai wrote:
^ I dun believe u! I'll just have to elo climb with Turkey moar.

Lol I ninja postd, you might wanna edit
In the woods, there lurks..
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 06 2010 18:50 GMT
#10655
On August 07 2010 03:49 Mogwai wrote:
^ I dun believe u! I'll just have to elo climb with Turkey moar.


Two people is the limit, anyways. Like yesterday I actually noticed you go "game?" but Turkey already responded so I went back to SC2, lol.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 06 2010 18:51 GMT
#10656
[image loading]

Mmm I think I made up for the terrible terrible game with Ezreal
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Synthesis
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada167 Posts
August 06 2010 18:57 GMT
#10657
On August 07 2010 03:43 Mogwai wrote:Though, tbh, I've been considering axing Nashor's for LW and seeing what happens. Seems to me that that should actually kill towers even quicker -_-;; n.


If I recall, LW's penetration doesn't work on towers.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 06 2010 18:58 GMT
#10658
Depending on the game I'll go BC instead of IE on that Kayle build, but I do prefer it to the other one(if you hog blue buff, and you should, nashors is a very expensive aspd item, because you are getting no cdr from it after runes+masteries+blue buff). Although I still think throwing in triple elixir at some point is amazing on any Kayle build.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 06 2010 18:58 GMT
#10659
22 minute bruta + BC + BT Ez is mean. What a bunch of feeders :p

On August 07 2010 03:50 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 03:49 Mogwai wrote:
^ I dun believe u! I'll just have to elo climb with Turkey moar.


Two people is the limit, anyways. Like yesterday I actually noticed you go "game?" but Turkey already responded so I went back to SC2, lol.

I miss 3-man queues . You and I with either Pokey or Turkey was so much fun
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 06 2010 18:59 GMT
#10660
On August 07 2010 03:49 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 03:49 Mogwai wrote:
^ I dun believe u! I'll just have to elo climb with Turkey moar.

Lol I ninja postd, you might wanna edit

naaaa, way too lazy. it still works :p

On August 07 2010 03:57 Synthesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 03:43 Mogwai wrote:Though, tbh, I've been considering axing Nashor's for LW and seeing what happens. Seems to me that that should actually kill towers even quicker -_-;; n.


If I recall, LW's penetration doesn't work on towers.

really? I always notice that I'm hitting towers way harder with LW than before I buy it. Maybe it's been changed? I dunno, can you get any sorta source on this?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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