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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:05:51
August 03 2010 19:02 GMT
#10061
Riot listens to their forums? Malady nerf inc.


also this thread is already half the size of the Dota/Hon thread and it hasn't even been open for 2 months yet.

My math says 10061 posts / ~60 days = 167 posts (over 8 pages) per day.
it's my first day
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:06:22
August 03 2010 19:03 GMT
#10062
On August 04 2010 03:37 Chrispy wrote:
Lol what the heck the top 1500 thing was arranged team? I've only played 7 of those and they were all against huge noobs so I didn't lose a single game so I made it haha. :X


Yeah I'd imagine a bunch of those were from me going I'M BORED LETS FIVE MAN RANDOM GUYS GO and having 0 coordination whatsoever.

On August 04 2010 03:34 myopia wrote:
Backdooring is attacking a tower without your creeps there. That's the exact definition.

My Yi strat of Teleporting to a pushed creep wave and taking a tower or two while the enemy team is off somewhere else is NOT backdooring, despite the LoL community calling it so.


Yeah that's my definition of BD as well. Solo pushing, either via just pushing, popping out of jungle to a pushed creep, or teleporting to pushed creep, isn't BD, it's just... pushing. *shrugs* Actually I think it's pretty damn hard to BD nowadays esp after they ramped up consecutive hits for towers, most of the BD I see is on inhibs but that's why I start warding the inhibitors.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 03 2010 19:09 GMT
#10063
Why is Xin Zhao allowed to self-heal by attacking towers =[
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 19:10 GMT
#10064
Pushing to the bottom turret with minions, killing it and the inhibitor, then running to top turret and destroying it without minions on that lane isn't backdooring. If you've killed the inhibitor earlier and then later go destroy the top tower without minion help on that lane, it is backdooring.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:11:31
August 03 2010 19:11 GMT
#10065
On August 04 2010 04:09 Juicyfruit wrote:
Why is Xin Zhao allowed to self-heal by attacking towers =[

why not? it's my favorite thing about him, no joke.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 03 2010 19:11 GMT
#10066
Haha, not complaining, it's just I was surprised because it's like...lifesteal on towers.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 19:13 GMT
#10067
On August 04 2010 01:06 Yiruru wrote:
I usually log on around 6pm KST when I get off work =>

Maining Eve now, AD Jungle Eve so fun =D

I've been saying this!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 19:14 GMT
#10068
well, the flavor is that he's a tireless warrior, it's not so much a lifesteal flavored passive so much as a, "i love fighting and will never stop" sorta thing. at least that's my read on it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 03 2010 19:16 GMT
#10069
I actually have a lot of faith in Riot and believe they only nerf things that are horribly imbalanced at some level of play. Like Pantheon, who was able to flatten noobs that don't understand "global teleport" or "large early burst" with ease.
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GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:19:53
August 03 2010 19:19 GMT
#10070
Originally Posted by Shurelia View Post
Just because you guys are so adamant.

Nunu

* Consume
o Cooldown reduced to 18/16/14/12/10 from 30/26/22/18/14.
o Heal amount reduced to 125/180/235/290/345 from 125/200/275/350/425


Predicting jungling Nunu to make a strong comeback.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:22:25
August 03 2010 19:19 GMT
#10071
Yi's passive procs on towers too, which is also one of his most redeeming qualities.

On August 04 2010 04:10 Shikyo wrote:
Pushing to the bottom turret with minions, killing it and the inhibitor, then running to top turret and destroying it without minions on that lane isn't backdooring. If you've killed the inhibitor earlier and then later go destroy the top tower without minion help on that lane, it is backdooring.


We're probly getting too technical here, I just don't like seeing words misused. BD isn't a problem in LoL because the game is designed with it in mind. The community whines about it because it could ruin DotA games - they don't seem to realize that LoL isn't DotA.



Patch notes? ETA on the next one? Is the gargoyle included?
it's my first day
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 19:21 GMT
#10072
There's a handful (I think? or maybe it's the same person not sure) of people in this thread and keep whining about BD, and it's a bit stupefying because I don't think I've ever encountered a BD that was not simply well-executed. I mean, I've lost (and won) my share of games to nice BDs, and it's always like, well played, sir.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 19:32 GMT
#10073
On August 04 2010 04:19 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Originally Posted by Shurelia View Post
Just because you guys are so adamant.

Nunu

* Consume
o Cooldown reduced to 18/16/14/12/10 from 30/26/22/18/14.
o Heal amount reduced to 125/180/235/290/345 from 125/200/275/350/425


Predicting jungling Nunu to make a strong comeback.

holy fuck, get raped heimer. that counter just got like, A LOT more brutal.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:35:45
August 03 2010 19:34 GMT
#10074
On August 04 2010 04:03 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 03:37 Chrispy wrote:
Lol what the heck the top 1500 thing was arranged team? I've only played 7 of those and they were all against huge noobs so I didn't lose a single game so I made it haha. :X


Yeah I'd imagine a bunch of those were from me going I'M BORED LETS FIVE MAN RANDOM GUYS GO and having 0 coordination whatsoever.

Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 03:34 myopia wrote:
Backdooring is attacking a tower without your creeps there. That's the exact definition.

My Yi strat of Teleporting to a pushed creep wave and taking a tower or two while the enemy team is off somewhere else is NOT backdooring, despite the LoL community calling it so.


Yeah that's my definition of BD as well. Solo pushing, either via just pushing, popping out of jungle to a pushed creep, or teleporting to pushed creep, isn't BD, it's just... pushing. *shrugs* Actually I think it's pretty damn hard to BD nowadays esp after they ramped up consecutive hits for towers, most of the BD I see is on inhibs but that's why I start warding the inhibitors.

Yea I did this in a recent solo q as nidalee. I literally solo pushed a lane for as long as I could and got away anytime they tried to gank me.
I got 300 creeps in 40 mins (which isn't too much for some people but a record for me) I also killed about 5 turrets, we still lost though.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 19:38 GMT
#10075
Kayle is the queen of back dooring

wow, that sounds dirty...

she's also the queen of solo pushing

that barely sounds less dirty....
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 19:44 GMT
#10076
the queen of backdooring is actually DPS Evelynn
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 19:45 GMT
#10077
Clearly the queen of backdooring is Soraka...
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 19:48 GMT
#10078
On August 04 2010 04:44 Shikyo wrote:
the queen of backdooring is actually DPS Evelynn

does she have a 1.75 attack speed ranged attack that hits for about 100/attack without the minion-nearby debuff on the tower and a 3 second invincibility + heal + movespeed boost + slow for escaping, all off of only 5.5K farm?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 03 2010 19:50 GMT
#10079
On August 04 2010 04:44 Shikyo wrote:
the queen of backdooring is actually DPS Evelynn

What is your build because I just bought Eve and she's super fun to play in normal games because my elo is so low
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 19:53:12
August 03 2010 19:50 GMT
#10080
On August 04 2010 04:48 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 04:44 Shikyo wrote:
the queen of backdooring is actually DPS Evelynn

does she have a 1.75 attack speed ranged attack that hits for about 100/attack without the minion-nearby debuff on the tower and a 3 second invincibility + heal + movespeed boost + slow for escaping, all off of only 5.5K farm?

She has stealth so she can get to an inhibitor unnoticed and down it in 3-4 seconds and then run away at 600 movespeed back into stealth.

Vs turrets(although backdooring them isn't nearly as good or important) she still is really useful although she'll be taking some damage if the tower starts at full(but you don't really want to backdoor in this case with something other than shaco)

On August 04 2010 04:50 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 04:44 Shikyo wrote:
the queen of backdooring is actually DPS Evelynn

What is your build because I just bought Eve and she's super fun to play in normal games because my elo is so low

Seriously have no idea right now, but I think that the Triforce probably costs too much and you might be better off with a bloodrazor-based 2.5 aspd build with BloodRazor, Black Cleaver and Bloodthirster etc. My old build was Triforce PD Inf Edge but that didn't really give enough
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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