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On July 21 2010 01:26 jtype wrote:
Ok, well, I'm perfectly happy to be proved wrong here, as I am pretty out of touch with mid-to-high-level play right now, but it always seemed like people who had that many creep kills were spending too long farming and not enough time actually with their team.

Even if they ended up with good scores, it was because their team carried them, they got lucky in the team fights they were actually present for, or the other team were really bad.

Exceptions to that would be games that dragged on longer than usual, with either team turtling up and creating a stalemate situation, which more often not leads to extra creep kills and free farming for somebody.

On July 21 2010 01:29 jtype wrote:
I don't think I every really approach 200 as Nasus. I know he farms like a beast and can get loads, but I always find that, if I'm playing well, the game ends before I can even get that many.

I have always preferred to gain momentum through team fights and ganking, rather than just farming, even if my char is good at that.

On July 21 2010 01:29 Orpheos wrote:


yea we actually all agree with you. we were just being buttholes and naming the exceptions =P

On July 21 2010 01:31 jtype wrote:


Haha! No no that's totally fine. Like I say I'm really out of touch, so I'm happy to have exceptions pointed out to me . :D


edit - South. You mentioned that you think Veigar is horrible now, I think. Why is that? I always found Viegar was one of those champs that was easy to play decently, but harder to play well than most people thought and when he was played well could really dominate right into the late game.

Has he been nerfed then? Or is it just that no one plays him well any more?

On July 21 2010 01:35 Southlight wrote:
He got nerfed a couple patches ago. Hahahah.
A nerf in the name of buffing. Epic balancing fail.
Theoretically he got re-buffed last patch but I haven't seen him played since, so I'm not sure if it fixed him.

On July 21 2010 01:15 Southlight wrote:


Because that's like 50 creep waves, or like 25 minutes (I don't remember what the interval was), that you've spent waiting for and killing creep waves. And that's assuming you're getting every single one.

On July 21 2010 01:44 Shikyo wrote:

Yeah I guess you don't know how to farm, then, since I've had like 10-2-8 games with 300+ cs at 45 mins

On July 21 2010 01:46 jtype wrote:



But is 10-2-8 a decent score for a 45 minute game? I guess it depends on the champ, but 45 is pretty long.

On July 21 2010 01:50 Shikyo wrote:

Okay then, I know I've already posted this once but:



226 minion kills at 29 minutes. Make it a 35min game and that's really close to 300. I had 4 tower kills and 11 champion kills. Do you really think I wasn't being useful to my team in this game? You probably just can't farm properly.

On July 21 2010 01:16 Southlight wrote:
DotA is different, as is HoN, because both games revolve around "carry heroes," whom are expected to farm and then hit critical mass.

On July 21 2010 01:54 gtrsrs wrote:


i can't speak for HoN but this isn't really the case for dota. in fact i'd go so far as to say that ganking is even more important in dota than in LoL. having 2 champs that roam from lane to lane, ganking during the entire laning phase is not at all uncommon at higher levels. there are a lot of things that LoL does well, but one thing it does wrong is not losing gold for dying. dota is a way more gank-oriented game because if you can kill a critical support hero or their carry several times, you can negate their farming.