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I agree with the need for atk speed, but i dont think ur build has enough of a dmg source to really be particularly effective. Sure, mbr gives some late dmg, but not nearly enough imo. I also find that trying to build up tons of atkspeed just for that one atk boost is nearly as silly as going atkspeed panth to get ur shield up asap, not to mention the atkspeed cap. Also, mbr is a specifically anti-tank item that really loses effectiveness when ur not up against a tanky team.
a dps build i prefer revolves around wits end and last whisper as AS sources (mybe ghostblade later on), then getting some of the bigger ticket dmg items.
edit: also, the reason i go hybrid is that i used to be ap, but then felt that his ap ratios werent good enough to support 100% ap style builds late game, so i added some dmg items in the mix and left out some ap items i didnt feel 100% necessary.
regardless, as i stated before, i am NOT a pro tf, and kinda suck at LoL in general so feel free to completely disregard my advice.
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but TF has his proc and if he stacks all the items that proc, he'll deal like 4-6 instances of damage each hit, and with max attack speed this actually adds up during the 2.5 second stun.
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Alright then, i will try it, mybe its better than I originally thought. Its just that i see so many garbage tf's go atkspeed that i completely disregarded it, but then again, i dont exactly play with the most skilled players, so it may just be the player and not the build. I'll reserve judgment for when ive tried it then.
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Hmm I think im a more sniping type so far. But Defile is interesting, indeed but you have to be close for that heh. Im still seeing how he plays so I will have to think on this.
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On July 09 2010 05:16 Eben wrote:
Anyone have a good item build for twistedfate? I bought him yesterday and have been fooling around with him a bit.
So far i'v been trying to mainly stack attackspeed items and some dmg, it seems effective. I also have heard that AP is good on him as well.
Thoughts? Builds?
My hybrid TF build:
boots + 3 pots
zerker's greaves
sheen
phage (survivability)
GRB
finish Triforce
BT
0/9/21
Flash/Clarity
W, Q, Q, E, Q, R
R > Q > E > W
Q's for the harassment early game, and then since it scales crappily mid-late game, switch to DPS. Don't really use Q until its leveld to around 3 unless u;re getting pushed back and need to farm last hits on the mage creeps. PaC + Clarity will let you spam the hell out of Q and it hurts a surprising amount. I typically throw in a fort elixir between Phage and GRB so that I can get some extra dmg out in the mid-game.
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Solo que has been awesome to me lately, been getting great teamates and opponents. Been playing lot's of Rammus, Ezreal and when I feel like carrying, Nidalee.
Maybe I'm finally high elo!
+ Show Spoiler +
Been having to que dodge a lot lately, it's worth the 15 min way imo.
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Except they do play LoL :p
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On July 09 2010 00:14 Brees wrote:
you can solo dragon at lvl 3 warwick at 4 minutes ^^ pretty overpowered if you can get away with it. usually no ward since the other jungler has to b unless its another warwick. thats the only time i dont do it.
what build u do for this?
Im working towards 15AP 25% AS rune page, full util tree with smite buff.
Currently lvl 20 12 AP 15% AS. Have yet to time dragon kill ( cause ppl keep trying to counter gank me at golem and failing lol) so thats thrown my timing off.
Also im loving solo q since the rotation. Getting good carries on my team and opponents that file in to kill me and gettin triple kills  (had one at dragon lastnight lol, tripple kill dragon and then snowballed from there)
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I must say I like Karthus a lot so far but I have only played 4 games with him. Still learning to place and time lay wastes decently.
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I ran into attackspeed proc TF last night (Malady, Wit's End, Bloodrazors, SotD, LW, boots) and he was farmed out so fast. Like, at something like 10 minutes he had 80 CS. It started being every time destiny was up he'd take a tower or get a kill.
But then the game went on past the 30 minute mark and I started carrying super, super hard with Singed. It's amazing how easy it is to ace their team when you just never, ever die.
The only thing about attackspeed proc TF is that stacking MR kinda rapes him.
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On July 09 2010 05:16 Eben wrote:
Anyone have a good item build for twistedfate? I bought him yesterday and have been fooling around with him a bit.
So far i'v been trying to mainly stack attackspeed items and some dmg, it seems effective. I also have heard that AP is good on him as well.
Thoughts? Builds? AP TF
9/0/21 flash/ghost mpen/mregen/mregen/health
R>Q>E>W with 1 in W at 4
dorans boots haunting rylais
go rape face
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too bad the korean premades are annoying and good as fuck
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Only if you're as good as arcerms, lol.
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On July 09 2010 04:42 Brees wrote:is it bad that I read the announcement of them banning hundreds of griefers and I had to check my emails immediately  is aznwiseguy gone? i've been out of it for a while.
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On July 09 2010 07:46 Southlight wrote:
Only if you're as good as arcerms, lol. i've pulled it off consistently too
edit: build is credits to him though. i asked him directly to teach me how to do it and he did. what a nice guy. calls me "raw fish" though haha.
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On July 09 2010 07:45 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2010 05:16 Eben wrote:
Anyone have a good item build for twistedfate? I bought him yesterday and have been fooling around with him a bit.
So far i'v been trying to mainly stack attackspeed items and some dmg, it seems effective. I also have heard that AP is good on him as well.
Thoughts? Builds? AP TF 9/0/21 flash/ghost mpen/mregen/mregen/health R>Q>E>W with 1 in W at 4 dorans boots haunting rylais go rape face
I'm actually gonna try that out.
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On July 09 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2010 04:42 Brees wrote:is it bad that I read the announcement of them banning hundreds of griefers and I had to check my emails immediately is aznwiseguy gone? i've been out of it for a while.
That would be great, but if Brees and I are safe I doubt it. lolol!
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dunno if anyone watch that razr vid that emu''s link eventually leads to, but it seems the wemade progamers seem to get jobs as quality testers and game masters when they retire, so they dont have to be commentators when they're done. kind of a cool deal
edit: i also had no idea nada was so softspoken
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On July 09 2010 07:48 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote:On July 09 2010 04:42 Brees wrote:is it bad that I read the announcement of them banning hundreds of griefers and I had to check my emails immediately is aznwiseguy gone? i've been out of it for a while. That would be great, but if Brees and I are safe I doubt it. lolol! if you're comparing yourself to him, i don't think you've played with aznwiseguy... he's on another level.
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