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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2010 21:43 GMT
#4001
I'd much rather go for RoA, Rylai and then something like Locket
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
July 05 2010 21:55 GMT
#4002
Honestly, from the games I've had, Taric is a much nastier pusher than Heimer. Heimer has to set up turrets and nade spam the tower.

Essentially, Heimer can't "nuke" a tower before a response can come. Taric can get like 2 champions and a creep wave a just decimate a tower in 15 seconds. Heimer + Taric is a nasty combo. Have Heimer set up turrets outside of the tower range but close enough that you essentially "Control" the front half the tower. Have Taric pop his ult and let you champions bash the tower, when you get attacked you are a few steps from Heimer's turrets, which usually cause the enemy to disengage.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 05 2010 22:00 GMT
#4003
I personally despise RoA, and Locket is absolutely garbage now o/ Honestly, when I played him in prac games I didn't have mana issues at all, and Tears felt like overkill.

For the guy that was arguing that Kassadin "needs a good lane partner," here's a game I played last night where my lane partner Amumu fed their Panth and TF twice (you can see me rage at like 6:25 first video) and completely lost the lane for me, and I still make do with like no items. Granted, their Olaf sucked (and/or Olaf just sucks as a hero) and I didn't recognize anyone on their team except for 1hit1der (who's not really good). Around the 5-minute mark of vid 3, where we're dragoning and I initiate a fight, is probably the most indicative and obvious of how I play Kassadin. Yes, it was deliberate, and while I didn't expect TF to be there I figured their whole team was in the area.

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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 05 2010 22:06 GMT
#4004
On July 06 2010 07:00 Southlight wrote:
and Locket is absolutely garbage now

Good to know I'm not the only one who things the Locket nerfs were way overkill. I used to love it on Alistar, but now there's just no way I'm ever making it again, on any champion.
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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
July 05 2010 22:08 GMT
#4005
On July 05 2010 19:00 BluzMan wrote:


and it doesn't work on minions like manadrain spells used to in DotA/HoN. .

it does work on minions. just not the melee minions that dont have any mana, the tank and caster minions have mana and i have regained mana with W by hitting them
You can't milk those!
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 22:11:55
July 05 2010 22:11 GMT
#4006
fallenLOL is my id! add me LFG for season 1! :D


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"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2010 22:49 GMT
#4007

On July 06 2010 07:00 Southlight wrote:
and Locket is absolutely garbage now

No! So goooodd
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League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 05 2010 22:52 GMT
#4008
is it a bug or standard, that i stopped getting daily bonus xp? i still get my daily extra points to spend on champs and runes, but thats it. i'm lvl 23.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 22:56:15
July 05 2010 22:54 GMT
#4009
I feel like the skill differential between when I play my main (shaco) versus anybody else is to great for me to play the later. I feel I need to carry like every game and at my noobish level nobody bothers stopping Shaco from dominating the buffs all over the map. It literally allows me to turn a completely losing game into a winning one.

I still feel like a tool for using him though. Even I can see how annoying he is to play against. But when I play other characters I feel so helpless, as I can't deceive out of any bad situation.

I think I should just buy and play pantheon. he seems to have the crazy aggression and domination I desire.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 23:01:24
July 05 2010 22:56 GMT
#4010
On July 06 2010 07 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              06 2010 07      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              06 2010 07      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:54 Athos wrote:
I feel like the skill differential between when I play my main (shaco) versus anybody else is to great for me to play the later. I feel I need to carry like every game and at my noobish level nobody bothers stopping Shaco from dominating the buffs all over the map. It literally allows me to turn a completely losing game into a winning one.

I still feel like a tool for using him though. Even I can see how annoying he is to play against. But when I play other characters I feel so helpless, as I can't deceive out of any bad situation.

It's probably because you've played Shaco for too long and got used to it. Play someone more unforgiving like Ashe who doesn't really have an escape mechanism and after a while you'll start to think about the game more carefully and your overall play will improve as well.

EDIT: about pantheon, in my other Ashe game today my shen teammate fed to a meki-first pantheon and went 0-3 and said that "guess they didn't fix the bug yet" <_> Pantheon so good
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 05 2010 23:24 GMT
#4011
As much as I'd like to trust the words of randoms in the LiquidParty, can anyone explain to me the viability of Clarity/Fortify for a tanking Nunu? I'm thinking about it, because the Imp Fortify is pretty much perfectly along the way for my Defensive Tree.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 05 2010 23:27 GMT
#4012
On July 06 2010 08:24 Fruscainte wrote:
As much as I'd like to trust the words of randoms in the LiquidParty, can anyone explain to me the viability of Clarity/Fortify for a tanking Nunu? I'm thinking about it, because the Imp Fortify is pretty much perfectly along the way for my Defensive Tree.


You don't need clarity ever. Nunu shouldn't run out of mana with regen runes and abusing his passive.

Fortify is kinda meh, I prefer ghost/cleanse to chase and kill people.
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
July 05 2010 23:29 GMT
#4013
On July 06 2010 08:24 Fruscainte wrote:
As much as I'd like to trust the words of randoms in the LiquidParty, can anyone explain to me the viability of Clarity/Fortify for a tanking Nunu? I'm thinking about it, because the Imp Fortify is pretty much perfectly along the way for my Defensive Tree.


Clarity + Fortify is a very team-oriented set of summoner skills. However, you don't have ghost, flash, or cleanse, so you're VERY vulnerable (Nunu has no escape skills). If you think you can pull it off, great, but it won't be easy...
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 23:31:01
July 05 2010 23:30 GMT
#4014
Clarity is nice for mana-hog support champions to improve lasting power. I usually see it on Janna, and to an extent on Taric (primarily to avoid losing to Soraka). Beyond that the only reason why you'd take it is if you have a lane setup that calls for it. For example, an Ezreal/Ashe lane took a Clarity, because they knew they'd be spamming people out of the lane, and they wanted to ensure they could keep the pressure going. Really, it made them last like 2-3 minutes longer in their lane than they would have otherwise.

That pretty much answers your question about Nunu and Clarity

Fortify is meh. It's nice to prevent backdoors but otherwise it's very underwhelming IMO.

Edit:
As a follow-up to oberon (who brings up a good point about team-oriented spells), if you really have nothing better to get then bring Clairvoyance.
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
July 05 2010 23:43 GMT
#4015
How do I do jungle Malphite and what should my general build be?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
July 05 2010 23:56 GMT
#4016
I've been really enjoying a team oriented Nasus build, but that may be because I can always blame my team for being ass if I lose
In seriousness though, when I pull together a solo queue group to move/attack around me with my aegis+starks, and to focus down the propper people, it totally wrecks any other team at my lower level of play. The problem is, it's a lot of energy to do this every game, so a lot of the time I just end up going with the flow and hoping for the best...

The enemy heroes I hate the most are:
shaco
pantheon
Katarina
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2010 00:00 GMT
#4017
On July 06 2010 08:43 SCC-Faust wrote:
How do I do jungle Malphite and what should my general build be?


Cloth x5 pots if you wanna Golem, otherwise you can open Ruby. Ground Slam, Brutal Strike, GS, SS, GS, Ult. Just go Ult > GS > SS > BS but you want at least one level of BS early to get the aoe effect (makes your jungling go faster). He's definitely not a fast jungler though so be aware. Item builds mostly revolve around Sunfire stacking, because his passive rewards high HP and GS rewards high armor.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 00:18:50
July 06 2010 00:00 GMT
#4018
i think im one of the best players in regards to directing pubs and still being able to perfectly last hit/harass my lane as best as i can.
much thanks to starcraft for multitasking skill :D
*Advice mostly for low elo players who cannot win solo queue games*
Some tips are:
-Look around the map a LOT
there should be no reason you are hard pressed to never look around the map IMO , unless you are slow clickywise., playing a global ult character will help you maintain this, which helps a lot when you are in mid and see a chance to gank and can react asaply.
You can direct your jungler to help the 1v2 lane if u know hes going to get roflstomped soon, or the 2v2 lane, or even yourself in middle. You could see/hear the camp path of the enemy jungler, and let your jungler know that the enemy jungler is taking blue buff , or even dragon. Or when you see that lizard camp disappear, and u see the 2v2 laners pushing way too far out - give them a heads up.

-Keep an eye on the minimap 100%
Also, just visual things can help a lot-
for example, neutral buffs. I 100% always see a neutal camp respawn or disappear within the second it happens and react accordingly- as im sure every single person from my elo does.
So when u see dragon spawn, ping it ASAP, and tell everyone in the area to get there. This alone will win low elo rank games.

When a tower falls, and everyones scattered and disorganized, call for a 5man push in middle or roam and tell them all to follow you. If you have been doig well (IE you're like 2-0 or something) , people will generally respond very well. Make sure the blue/red buff goes to appropriate persons(low elo people are very unaware) and then push

Aside from awareness- some people just DO NOT respond to any advice or critism, so you have to realize, if matchmaking is even remotely fair, they have a person of equal retardedness on their team. Grab a snowballing item , IE mejais/ sword of occult, and gank them repeatedly. Low ELO matchs are usually who can abuse the feeders, and protect their own as much as possible.

Some tricks are , the feeder will always push a lane alone and get ganked, because they are overextended. You can gather a few people to meet at a brush where the enemy will try to come and gank, and surprise them IE using the feeder as bait.
This also works in higher elo, except you can see the creeps pushing a tower. Obviously someone is going to want to farm that, so sit in the jungle where they will most likely walk through, then surprise them with a stun

There are tons of tricks and map awareness/positioning that will skyrocket your winrate, The best way to learn them all,imo, is to play every champion at least once so you understand how they all work.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2010 00:06 GMT
#4019
I'm so used to heroes that don't farm that my last-hitting is horribad.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 06 2010 00:08 GMT
#4020
On July 06 2010 08:27 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 08:24 Fruscainte wrote:
As much as I'd like to trust the words of randoms in the LiquidParty, can anyone explain to me the viability of Clarity/Fortify for a tanking Nunu? I'm thinking about it, because the Imp Fortify is pretty much perfectly along the way for my Defensive Tree.

Fortify is kinda meh, I prefer ghost/cleanse to chase and kill people.

How good is Fortify for jungling? +9 damage to minions sounds like it has some potential.
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