having a fed Trynd carry the enemy team is so frustrating. You can't engage at all. If you don't focus him he'll kill the lot of you - if you do he'll kill the lot of you even faster. Half the problem was that our only real CC was on Fiddle.

Abenson

Canada4122 Posts

July 06 2010 01:44 GMT

#4042

well...
I usually play with my friends on vent, and calling mia with voicechat is extremely easy.
Perhaps we can go on the TL vent and call mia's that way? (or it'll even be easier to strategize)

Abenson

Canada4122 Posts

July 06 2010 01:45 GMT

#4043

Aren't you supposed to pay attention to minimaps when you play SC though? O_O
That means all of us are supposed to be pretty good at minimap-looking as we're all TL.net netizens

HeavOnEarth

United States7087 Posts

July 06 2010 01:55 GMT

#4044

when tf hits 6 i just call him mia. lawl

radmax86

United States437 Posts

July 06 2010 02:02 GMT

#4045

I think MIAs are pretty important. There are a lot of times when an enemy isnt visible on the minimap, but if you were watching their closely you would know the enemy was in the brush, hugging the tower, blue pilled, etc. If you assume everyone not visible on the minimap is missing, your play will suffer.

oberon

United States1320 Posts

July 06 2010 02:11 GMT

#4046

I call MIAs for a few reasons:

1) Tunnel vision. If I'm trying to last hit, predict opponent last hits to skillshot them, etc., sometimes I don't look at the map constantly.

2) Sometimes two enemies will be on top of eachother, and the fact that they're both present isn't visible on the minimap.

3) Sometimes an enemy is "MIA" in a far side bush, where they can't get to other lanes without being seen. I wouldn't want my teammates to waste time reacting as if this person were missing (basically what Rad said above).

I do also call Karth 6. I don't call TF or Panth, because they have distinctive animations before they show up, and can often be avoided. Maybe I'm a jerk, though.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

July 06 2010 02:21 GMT

#4047

Sometimes it's just too much to be watching the minimap. In starcraft there's nothing like last hitting that you have to do. Even most of micro is stuff like sieging tanks (which you don't have to watch for), casting AoE spells, etc. The only thing akin to the attention required to last hit with a ranged champ is like when you try to pull back hurt units in a large battle, and tbh to be effective at that I think almost everyone tunnel visions a bit while pulling those units even if just for a short while.

If you're trying to last hit effectively, watch what your lane partner is doing, and watch both of your opponents when they're being highly active (especially when you have to pay attention to being behind creeps like against a blitz/morgana etc) sometimes it's just too much to constantly have your eye on the minimap. And if you don't constantly have it there all it takes is one moment because half the time they aren't actually appearing on the minimap they're just in a bush, but you might think they're mia if you look at the minimap and don't see them around.

IMO it's something that is very easy to do if you're on voice chat, and it's kind of a why not thing. It doesn't hurt to say "ashe mia" in vent.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

July 06 2010 02:28 GMT

#4048

not calling mia's is one of the snobbiest things you can do in a team-oriented game, topped only by responding to "hey where was the miss call!" with "nub watch the minimap"

there is literally nothing more detrimental to team-play than blaming your teammates for something you could have easily prevented. most pubs will spend more time talking shit than playing after an episode like that

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

July 06 2010 02:35 GMT

#4049

You don't need to pay attention ALL the time though. I only pay attention when I feel I am distinctively "gankable". That only happens when my summoner spells are off cooldown (play super carefully), I'm WAY overextended when pushing a tower (dont), or if the enemy is capable of tower diving me at my current health (go back and buy a health item).

It's actually pretty hard to get ganked while only last hitting in most cases (unless you're laning against a tristana >.> )

floor exercise

Canada5847 Posts

July 06 2010 02:54 GMT

#4050

I think calling MIA is pretty important during the laning phase, because you do tend to really be focused on your lane. That's the part of the game where everyone should take advantage of the fact that they don't have to worry about what's going on elsewhere and just focus on your lane while calling your mias. If everyone does this, everyones lane performance should be improved if you can rely on your teammates.

After that there's really no excuse not to have good map awareness and minimap usage just like in an RTS game

Phrost

United States4008 Posts

July 06 2010 02:57 GMT

#4051

so does anyone else feel like if one team just plays a lot of very strong early game champs (shen, shaco, pantheon, heimerdinger, etc) that they can just snowball so hard that it doesn't really matter who the other team picks because you'll be so far ahead in turrets and kills to outfarm them.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 06 2010 03:01 GMT

#4052

Mmmm just played semi-solo top(paired with an alistar that was there half the time, other half feeding or wandering around somewhere else, at least like 3 lvls we were completely 1v1) vs a pretty good Ezreal and didn't get thrown off the lane with Tryndamere O_o Then since I thought that he was quite good I went to check his stats and his KDA with Ezreal is 476 Kills 189 Deaths 414 Assists. Hmm maybe Tryndamere is imba

EDIT: wow skype sucks

Twilexia

United States62 Posts

July 06 2010 03:07 GMT

#4053

Damn, server's down. Been playing this since the beta ended. Been playing Rammus practically non stop. I love him, cuz I'm an impatient person and I just like to run in and start wacking people. My timing's not really good but with Rammus you have a large margin of error especially if you have heal and flash. The only thing is to make sure that your team is coming in behind you and basically planning to rape the other team while they try to nuke you. As long as that happens a few times you win hahaha. I'm only level 14 but still I love playing Rammus.

I suck with every other champion though

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

July 06 2010 03:08 GMT

#4054

Alright so I'm 2 man que with a lvl 20 friend on my main (lvl 30).
We get a lvl 30 that takes mid as ap teemo "because he has 400 wins" and how I should lane because "Ezreal has a heal."
He has a friend that's lvl 3 with 0 wins. His friend proceeds to go 0/15 and he goes 6/7. The whole game he talks about how good he is and how "You will one day understand". He pushes lanes the whole time and then bitches when he then gets killed because "The team wasn't there."

They push our inhibitor while he farms top and it dies. He and his friend both disconnect. We totally had that game, even with a 0/15 Heimer.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 06 2010 03:12 GMT

#4055

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Alright so I'm 2 man que with a lvl 20 friend on my main (lvl 30).
We get a lvl 30 that takes mid as ap teemo "because he has 400 wins" and how I should lane because "Ezreal has a heal."
He has a friend that's lvl 3 with 0 wins. His friend proceeds to go 0/15 and he goes 6/7. The whole game he talks about how good he is and how "You will one day understand". He pushes lanes the whole time and then bitches when he then gets killed because "The team wasn't there."

They push our inhibitor while he farms top and it dies. He and his friend both disconnect. We totally had that game, even with a 0/15 Heimer.

These 400 win 700 loss people are hilarious, luckily I haven't had them since like lvl 20 -_- Like some AP Nunu who's like omg im pro almost 1000 wins and he's 980 Win 1400 Loss and went 1-12 that game and said something like he had a good winrate early but when he got to lvl 30 he started losing abit more wtf

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fixed btw.

Baloop

United States127 Posts

July 06 2010 03:13 GMT

#4056

Man the servers down. now that my backup for the beta is down what do i do? lol

I've recently been playing Ashe and going for a Mob killer Build.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

July 06 2010 03:16 GMT

#4057

Oh btw wow, how do you have only 30 minion kills as Heimerdinger o_O You can like set 3 turrets up in the middle of the lane and practically go afk and you'll easily have 100+ minion kills

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

July 06 2010 03:20 GMT

#4058

On July 06 2010 12:16 Shikyo wrote:
Oh btw wow, how do you have only 30 minion kills as Heimerdinger o_O You can like set 3 turrets up in the middle of the lane and practically go afk and you'll easily have 100+ minion kills

he doesnt know how to play.... he died 15 times lol