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On November 03 2010 02:59 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 02:47 Jaksiel wrote:
Anyone have a guide to jungling Gragas? I assume you alternate between W and E, start with cloth/5 pots etc., and build tank. It doesn't seem like you can start at Blue but maybe I'm wrong. You don't need to start at blue with jungle Gragas. With E as your only mana ability and W giving mana per use, you can start at small Golems for an easy level 2. Build tank, starting with HoG.
That's kind of what I figured, starting at small Golems. I'm guessing after small Golems you go Wraiths->Wolves->Blue and then back? I did that in a practice game and Blue was easy enough at level 3.
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Not sure how I feel about Karate Kennen...
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On November 03 2010 03:04 Mogwai wrote:
Not sure how I feel about Karate Kennen...
I have to admit, I checked the file name. Dude, Kennen, put that mask back on, man...
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ughh leblanc is so strong :X
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She looks so fun, definitely picking her up tonight.
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On November 03 2010 02:49 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 02:42 Mogwai wrote:On November 03 2010 02:38 gtrsrs wrote:
guys.... you're arguing over something irrelevant. "target champion first" is in no way "more expensive" of a code to write... you guys are all crazy in the brain i'm serious
like i work at a liquor store right
i shelf and sell bottles of liquor and wine, as well as beer, easy job
it's not like when my boss orders a new kind of liquor he's like
"okay guitar i'm gonna give you a raise this week cause you don't know the new liquor yet"
and the next week he's like
"okay nothing new this week, i'm gonna halve your pay"...
that's not how the real world works oh ok, so since you work in a liquor store you understand how coding works and what sort of development time is necessary to implement certain mechanics? Your analogy is also flawed because we're talking about your boss charging the customer twice as much for some shit he had to special order from some crazy place in Europe and then charging half as much when he switches back to domestic shit. Cost to the company translates into price to the customer, it has nothing to do with your pay. Sry dude but you're being an idiot with your analogy here, lol. i'm studying computer programming in college yes when i learn new processes of code, my professor doesn't give me extra credit and STS was saying that riot is essentially "passing on the savings" like a fucking furniture warehouse. like it's easier to code so they pay the coders less so then they can charge the players less. i mean i just can't believe you think that RP pricing is at all based on the energy spent developing new champs it's so ridiculous
I too am studying CS in college, game development in particular. I never said they pay the coders less and you are jumping to conclusions without thinking.
If something can be recycled, it takes less time to develop then something brand new. If you still agree here keep reading, if you disagree don't bother with the rest of the post because I've already lost you. If I can develop a new skill for a new champion in one hour because I can reuse code from other skills but designing it from scratch takes four hours then designing it from scratch is more expensive.
This is because you have to pay the developer for more time (four hours of pay vs one hour) then if he recycled the old stuff since it simply takes longer.
If you don't think time is a form of expense then you should take a business or economics class.
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On November 02 2010 20:07 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Nah...LoL is still a lot more forgiving for a few reasons:
1. You're less likely to die in the first place, due to LOLGHOST/FLASH/CLEANSE.
2. If someone dies, it's likely to be bottom lane, who probably has another partner that can take the EXP anyway, thus not wasting any.
3. EXP normalization. Low level death EXP pretty meaningless in long run.
4. Turret AI. You can stroll back into lane and hug turrets, knowing they WILL protect you. Not possible in DotA.
5. NO DENYING CREEPS.
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Sweet, draft mode. Need people to get online so we can play some inhouse games with draft mode 
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On November 03 2010 03:01 Jaksiel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 02:59 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 03 2010 02:47 Jaksiel wrote:
Anyone have a guide to jungling Gragas? I assume you alternate between W and E, start with cloth/5 pots etc., and build tank. It doesn't seem like you can start at Blue but maybe I'm wrong. You don't need to start at blue with jungle Gragas. With E as your only mana ability and W giving mana per use, you can start at small Golems for an easy level 2. Build tank, starting with HoG. That's kind of what I figured, starting at small Golems. I'm guessing after small Golems you go Wraiths->Wolves->Blue and then back? I did that in a practice game and Blue was easy enough at level 3.
Small golems (s), wolves, wraiths (s), Blue (s)
(s) meaning Smite. I run 1 8 21
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On November 03 2010 03:08 HazMat wrote:
ughh leblanc is so strong :X
She looks pretty redonkulous in the highlights.
Granted, most highlights look pretty stupid themselves. But shit, she has burst.
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On November 03 2010 03:15 HazMat wrote:Sweet, draft mode. Need people to get online so we can play some inhouse games with draft mode
Uh, didn't they have draft mode in practices last patch?
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On November 03 2010 03:16 NeoIllusions wrote:She looks pretty redonkulous in the highlights. Granted, most highlights look pretty stupid themselves. But shit, she has burst.
Lots of casters have burst though. The question is if she has the utility to back it up. A silence and an unreliable skillshot snare seem iffy as far as the CC department goes, but I'll still reserve judgment till after I've had a chance to play her (e.g. when my launcher stops screwing up).
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I thought the practice draft mode was bonkers still in the last patch?
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On November 03 2010 03:17 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 03:15 HazMat wrote:Sweet, draft mode. Need people to get online so we can play some inhouse games with draft mode Uh, didn't they have draft mode in practices last patch?
No? O.O
When I made inhouse games I never saw an option for draft mode.
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On November 03 2010 03:17 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 03:16 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 03 2010 03:08 HazMat wrote:
ughh leblanc is so strong :X She looks pretty redonkulous in the highlights. Granted, most highlights look pretty stupid themselves. But shit, she has burst. Lots of casters have burst though. The question is if she has the utility to back it up. A silence and an unreliable skillshot snare seem iffy as far as the CC department goes, but I'll still reserve judgment till after I've had a chance to play her (e.g. when my launcher stops screwing up).
Well, compared to the other casters Riot has released lately (Swain and Lux), I kinda laugh at their burst potential.
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On November 03 2010 03:19 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 03:17 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 03 2010 03:15 HazMat wrote:Sweet, draft mode. Need people to get online so we can play some inhouse games with draft mode Uh, didn't they have draft mode in practices last patch? No? O.O When I made inhouse games I never saw an option for draft mode.
No, I swear last patch, there was blind, draft, and all random options when hosting practice games.
Someone fucking back me up so I don't feel like I'm delusional. Thx.
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I still think Swain is the worst character in the game... it seems like he does absolutely nothing... lol
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It makes no sense for Riot to base the price on development cost. They have to cover stuff like server maintenance etc, so the development cost of a champ doesn't even weigh in too heavily.
The only reasonable way to determine champ prices is estimating how well a champ will sell at each of the prices they have and then pick the option that yields the most money overall.
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