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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 02 2010 18:57 GMT
#28281
Sion just gets to ALWAYS hit with his abilities from the brush. And shield isn't very expensive, just his stun. And with brush camping, it's really hard to get sustained harass on him. Like, I had to solo top Ezreal vs. Sion top once and my team gave me shit for losing the matchup but I don't think there was a damn thing I could do without taking like 4 times as much damage back from sion's burst.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 02 2010 18:57 GMT
#28282
On November 03 2010 03:49 Mogwai wrote:
I dunno, I still just don't think you accomplish much by doing this. I mean, if it's early enough that he can't pop his shield, he just shifts back to his bush and if you pursue there, then he explodes it on you after eating a little bit of laser bird and then wails on you, right? And if not, he can pop out and 1-shot your creepwave before you have enough time for your slow damage abilities to actually pop it. Like, Brush camping Sion top is such a giant asshole that if you play sufficiently gay I just don't see how a character with damage as slow as Swain is going to accomplish anything against you. (I also basically don't see how anyone accomplishes anything vs. Sion solo top, he's such a fucking asshole, god, I can only see Morgana drawing him with blackshield + 1 shotting creep waves right back, lol, what a stupid character).


Well, timing is everything for Sion shield. But level for level, Laser Bird will break Sion's Shield unless Sion times it right and gets to break his Shield before Bird does first. But once Swain hits 6, he can eat all the Stuns and auto attack Sion throws.

I just think that any champion that can stop a Sion from free farming top, without a gank mind you, is amusing at the very least.

The game of HotShot, like I said, the Sion didn't use the brush. Every time he tried to charge up his Shield in the open, it got broke by Bird.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 19:01:57
November 02 2010 19:01 GMT
#28283
Standard solo queue game.
[image loading]

Their 5th pick dc'd during champ select so I trolled my team and picked Veigar. Our next 2 picks choose Swain and GP and then summoner 5 reconnects and picks Sivir. We send GP solo top, kass/swain mid, and me solobot Veigar. The other team sent Sivir/Mf top, Mundo mid and Singed bot and later switched Mundo with Mf. Mf got destroyed by Swain/Kass and afk'd leading us to win the game.

Mindgames.
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Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
November 02 2010 19:02 GMT
#28284
While we're on the subject, I think I'll start trying out AP Sion.

What runes are good for that? His AP scales really well so I'm wondering if all AP per level runes would be good or would it be more preferable to get Magic Pen? Or maybe MP5?

And which quints to use?
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 19:06:23
November 02 2010 19:06 GMT
#28285
On November 03 2010 04:01 HazMat wrote:
Standard solo queue game.
[image loading]

Their 5th pick dc'd during champ select so I trolled my team and picked Veigar. Our next 2 picks choose Swain and GP and then summoner 5 reconnects and picks Sivir. We send GP solo top, kass/swain mid, and me solobot Veigar. The other team sent Sivir/Mf top, Mundo mid and Singed bot and later switched Mundo with Mf. Mf got destroyed by Swain/Kass and afk'd leading us to win the game.

Mindgames.


dam dude you got lucky it was a troll game with BRA drz and loveshockk on the same team. what a nightmare
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 02 2010 19:07 GMT
#28286
I would run the super generic pro-caster page

mpen marks
Mana Regen/level seals
AP/level glyphs
Flat AP Quints
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 02 2010 19:07 GMT
#28287
Streaming a normal game

livestream.com/lolforbears
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 02 2010 19:09 GMT
#28288
Morgana starting the game with saying "im new to morgana ".

[image loading]

Ends up on level 8 before we surrender when everyone else is lvl 13-15, Soul shroud and a longsword..wtf? He kept feeding all game and rushing 1v2 like a badass with his ult up doing like 3% damage then dying :I

Surely not just new to morgana :S
Its so frustrating to know you're gonna lose the game like 10 minutes into it..I know i'm a noob myself but once you get like 100+ games played, surely the basics of the game must be obvious? ..sigh
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 02 2010 19:12 GMT
#28289
On November 03 2010 04:06 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 04:01 HazMat wrote:
Standard solo queue game.
[image loading]

Their 5th pick dc'd during champ select so I trolled my team and picked Veigar. Our next 2 picks choose Swain and GP and then summoner 5 reconnects and picks Sivir. We send GP solo top, kass/swain mid, and me solobot Veigar. The other team sent Sivir/Mf top, Mundo mid and Singed bot and later switched Mundo with Mf. Mf got destroyed by Swain/Kass and afk'd leading us to win the game.

Mindgames.


dam dude you got lucky it was a troll game with BRA drz and loveshockk on the same team. what a nightmare

Ya, the reason I started trolling is because I saw BRA drz was on my team. "Ban Mordekaiser. Shield es #1"
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 02 2010 19:12 GMT
#28290
you also have 4 AP champs + 1 Melee DPS = no tank AND no ranged DPS AND no jungler. Essentially, even if she was a super pro morg, your team comp is dick and you would probably lose anyway, lol. Even though their team is barely any better (2 soft tanks + 3 AP/Support, lol).
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 02 2010 19:13 GMT
#28291
On November 03 2010 04:09 Senx wrote:
Morgana starting the game with saying "im new to morgana ".

[image loading]

Ends up on level 8 before we surrender when everyone else is lvl 13-15, Soul shroud and a longsword..wtf? He kept feeding all game and rushing 1v2 like a badass with his ult up doing like 3% damage then dying :I

Surely not just new to morgana :S
Its so frustrating to know you're gonna lose the game like 10 minutes into it..I know i'm a noob myself but once you get like 100+ games played, surely the basics of the game must be obvious? ..sigh


Looking at the team compositions, you lost that game before it even began. I absolutely hate it when that happens.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 02 2010 19:13 GMT
#28292
Oh gawd, BRA drz...

ShakeDrizzle pro lucker.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 02 2010 19:14 GMT
#28293
Ryze was obviously jungling.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 19:16:57
November 02 2010 19:16 GMT
#28294
On November 03 2010 04:13 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 04:09 Senx wrote:
Morgana starting the game with saying "im new to morgana ".

[image loading]

Ends up on level 8 before we surrender when everyone else is lvl 13-15, Soul shroud and a longsword..wtf? He kept feeding all game and rushing 1v2 like a badass with his ult up doing like 3% damage then dying :I

Surely not just new to morgana :S
Its so frustrating to know you're gonna lose the game like 10 minutes into it..I know i'm a noob myself but once you get like 100+ games played, surely the basics of the game must be obvious? ..sigh


Looking at the team compositions, you lost that game before it even began. I absolutely hate it when that happens.


Are you paying attention to my rank? This is low level play, I got a hard time believing setup plays such a huge role at this point, atleast from my sample of 170 games or w/e it is. I've won tons of games with these kind of setups :o
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
November 02 2010 19:18 GMT
#28295
lol my friends and I do this ALL the time and we've all played over 600-700 games lol.

Then again we aren't very competitive and play for fun. Usually we don't have a tank and have 3 AP.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 02 2010 19:18 GMT
#28296
On November 03 2010 04:16 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 04:13 xDaunt wrote:
On November 03 2010 04:09 Senx wrote:
Morgana starting the game with saying "im new to morgana ".

[image loading]

Ends up on level 8 before we surrender when everyone else is lvl 13-15, Soul shroud and a longsword..wtf? He kept feeding all game and rushing 1v2 like a badass with his ult up doing like 3% damage then dying :I

Surely not just new to morgana :S
Its so frustrating to know you're gonna lose the game like 10 minutes into it..I know i'm a noob myself but once you get like 100+ games played, surely the basics of the game must be obvious? ..sigh


Looking at the team compositions, you lost that game before it even began. I absolutely hate it when that happens.


Are you paying attention to my rank? This is low level play, I got a hard time believing setup plays such a huge role at this point, atleast from my sample of 170 games or w/e it is. I've won tons of games with these kind of setups :o

lol, I vaguely remember those days...

having a decent team comp still helps a lot though.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 19:32:16
November 02 2010 19:28 GMT
#28297
On November 03 2010 03:29 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 03:22 spinesheath wrote:
The only reasonable way to determine champ prices is estimating how well a champ will sell at each of the prices they have and then pick the option that yields the most money overall.

Wouldn't they always want the IP cost to be 6300 then? They don't make money off of people buying the champ with IP, and if the IP cost is high, the comparative RP cost looks much better.

That would make it REALLY hard to hold up the "free to play competitively" line. So it would probably turn off lots of potential customers. Especially the ones that play for a while and then decide to drop a bit of money on the game.

On November 03 2010 03:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 03:34 Mogwai wrote:
On November 03 2010 03:29 TheYango wrote:
On November 03 2010 03:22 spinesheath wrote:
The only reasonable way to determine champ prices is estimating how well a champ will sell at each of the prices they have and then pick the option that yields the most money overall.

Wouldn't they always want the IP cost to be 6300 then? They don't make money off of people buying the champ with IP, and if the IP cost is high, the comparative RP cost looks much better.

you have to weigh that up against community backlash for high prices. The community has been known to bitch at consecutive 6300 champions and you need to try to keep the customers happy *shrug*.

Yeah I think throwing in some 3150's is good longterm and it makes sense to do it on leblanc after we've just had similar champions released (lux swain)

i completely agree with spinesheath, that pricing is based on what will sell, but you gotta consider longterm plan with that as well


Oh I personally definitely would calculate that with the expected sales over the course of half a year or more. The trend in business seems to be to only think 1 week in advance, though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 02 2010 19:36 GMT
#28298
Another stealth change:

As a level 27 I can't play ranked premades (used to be able to play Arranged Team at level 20).
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
November 02 2010 19:37 GMT
#28299
Need TT jungling guide for any champ (preferably WW/mundo). Dunno how viable is jungling on TT
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 02 2010 19:38 GMT
#28300
how to jungle on TT:

take smite and kill jungle creeps while everyone else does other things. if you ever take red buff, you just won the game for your team.
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