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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
honestly he can still carry really hard against bads or medium level players, at high level he gets outshined because he doesn't snowball on his ridiculous mid game. if you enjoy him go play him sheen + brutalizer + red buff mid game is still really strong | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:53 Haemonculus wrote: Interesting... the Kayle you're playing against rushed a malady... I'd never thought of that as an item for Kayle... Think it has some merit vs rushing rageblade? Does the extra magic damage get at all turned into splash from her E? How about the debuff from malady? o.O I get malady after GRB (the damage boost from GRB is too high to sidestep) and instead of nashor's because it is much more offensive. After I get Yomumu's and a gunblade. Usually by the malady the game is over but occasionally i have more gold | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
The CDR is nice if you're not very experienced with her but I've found that blue buff is sufficient CDR to do well. If you're not comfortable with the timing of righteous fury you could still make a nashor's tooth but the malady does a lot more damage and is much cheaper. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On November 01 2010 05:57 shawster wrote: ezreal is completely fine if you know how to play him and it's sub 1800 I don't understand why people say this. Clearly he's not good at top level play by this statement so why would anybody bother playing them ever unless they want to gimp themselves? Then again, I suppose I have a very narrow mind about how games should be played. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On November 01 2010 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I don't understand why people say this. Clearly he's not good at top level play by this statement so why would anybody bother playing them ever unless they want to gimp themselves? Then again, I suppose I have a very narrow mind about how games should be played. That's like saying at low levels, Eve isn't fine because at higher level she sucks. Picking eve against newbies isn't gimping yourself. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On November 01 2010 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I don't understand why people say this. Clearly he's not good at top level play by this statement so why would anybody bother playing them ever unless they want to gimp themselves? Then again, I suppose I have a very narrow mind about how games should be played. Because top-tier play only applies to like 1% of the game's population. Odds are, fretting over "top-tier" play won't apply to you, and so there's no need to bother caring unless you're going to try really hard to get good at this game. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On November 01 2010 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I don't understand why people say this. Clearly he's not good at top level play by this statement so why would anybody bother playing them ever unless they want to gimp themselves? Then again, I suppose I have a very narrow mind about how games should be played. Competitively speaking there are a lot of bad champion choices. But 90% of the time champions are fairly effective to the point where you can enjoy a game with them but at like 2400 elo they just dont get picked. Ezreal isn't really the BEST physical carry anymore but hes still good enough to play in an average game and expect to win. | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
If you have a clever gameplan and Ez fits a role there, then he is perfectly viable. For standard teams (what you definitely should do with random allies) he might not be as good. However the strength of each champ is partly dependant on the level you are playing. At some levels, Ez's free flash might be much stronger than at higher levels. Or at low levels people might suck with it so he loses one of his major advantages. Just like there are some rushes in SC2 that are really strong at lower levels but perfectly fine at higher levels. | ||
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dotFX
United States131 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
Noob abuser heroes like eve are in a whole different bracket really. Relying on your opponents being bad to do well is just silly. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On November 01 2010 07:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: But I could play a top tier physical carry like MF or Trist and have an easier time winning in the lower bracket. Now the game will probably be decided upon the mechanics of the players rather than the actual hero choices, but it's far easier to have good mechanics with Trist or MF imo. By picking ezreal I'd just be making life harder for myself for no real reason since clearly he's subpar to the top tier champions. Noob abuser heroes like eve are in a whole different bracket really. Relying on your opponents being bad to do well is just silly. There're top-end players (like Xpecial) that main Ezreal and kick ass. What's your point? Aside from admitting that you're not good at Ezreal and find standard auto-attackers easier? | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On November 01 2010 07:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: But I could play a top tier physical carry like MF or Trist and have an easier time winning in the lower bracket. Now the game will probably be decided upon the mechanics of the players rather than the actual hero choices, but it's far easier to have good mechanics with Trist or MF imo. By picking ezreal I'd just be making life harder for myself for no real reason since clearly he's subpar to the top tier champions. Noob abuser heroes like eve are in a whole different bracket really. Relying on your opponents being bad to do well is just silly. No actually Ezreal in low or mid skill levels is better than say, Ashe, who skyrockets in value the higher up in average skill level you go. Ezreal is sometimes a better choice than MF in these spots because he has a built in escape and you can't always rely on your team to do things like eat a skillshot cc for you. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On November 01 2010 05:57 shawster wrote: ezreal is completely fine if you know how to play him and it's sub 1800 My point is why would anybody learn to play a hero that isn't viable once you hit 1800 points. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On November 01 2010 07:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: But I could play a top tier physical carry like MF or Trist and have an easier time winning in the lower bracket. Now the game will probably be decided upon the mechanics of the players rather than the actual hero choices, but it's far easier to have good mechanics with Trist or MF imo. By picking ezreal I'd just be making life harder for myself for no real reason since clearly he's subpar to the top tier champions. Noob abuser heroes like eve are in a whole different bracket really. Relying on your opponents being bad to do well is just silly. That's not the best way of thinking. Some people find some champs better suiting their playstyle (oh no, this word again...). Every champ has his pros and cons, if your playstyle has "synergy" with a champ (quite simple example would be: if you are good at landing skillshots - you pick skillshot champ), why not use him? On November 01 2010 07:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: My point is why would anybody learn to play a hero that isn't viable once you hit 1800 points. Because in LoL term "champ not viable" doesnt exactly mean "you won't do a shit in any game at top elo", it means "lower chances". You still see the "crapest of crap champs" being played at top elo sometimes but at the same time like 40 champs are "not viable" there. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
also because you enjoy their playstyle | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On November 01 2010 07:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: My point is why would anybody learn to play a hero that isn't viable once you hit 1800 points. because you'll never hit 1800 anyways | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
#1 FIDDLESTICKS THAT'S WHY. | ||
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