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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
0elle i think was name | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
YOU GOTTA SPIN TO WIN ![[image loading]](http://i55.tinypic.com/eqb2p2.jpg) i am... AP TRYND | ||
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Kingske
Belgium252 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On November 01 2010 02:35 phyvo wrote: You're saying LoL rewards skill more because you don't need skill to win. wwhhaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??!?!?!?!?! Reading comprehension. You need less skill != don't need skill at all. If you need less skill then if you have skill you are "higher ranked" than you would be in DotA w/ same amount of skill | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
(not really) Devastating Blow (Q) lets you "farm really well" if the other team lets you sit amongst their minions because it's friggen hard to not kill the minion with it. Your lane partner needs to be someone who is good at harassing your opponents so they can stay off of you and let you last hit (sona lux ashe etc) or someone who can help protect you in some way (taric soraka janna etc) or better yet, someone who can just scare the fucking hell out of the enemy team if they get close (sion taric, anyone with a stun) which enables you to position yourself to punt them into a wall and rape them - this fear will usually keep them at a distance unless they have decent range advantage or grass control. Poppy is really great to have in the jungle because its basically impossible to not get her stun off (note: not jungling, but forcing fights in the jungle) though you can have some hilarious mishaps where you push someone through the wall. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Troll harder plz | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Also in related news, #1 first day Udyr. I think I'm the sickest jungler on TL. | ||
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Surrealz
United States449 Posts
Any kind of advice as to play him to the max level possible would be nice | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 01 2010 02:54 Kaniol wrote: Reading comprehension. You need less skill != don't need skill at all. If you need less skill then if you have skill you are "higher ranked" than you would be in DotA w/ same amount of skill I just have a different definition for "rewarding skill", evidently. Having an easy time getting to the top just means the game sucks competitively and isn't worthwhile because no one cares. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:15 Surrealz wrote: hey can some of you pro kogmaws help me out with a good build? Should I be going AD or that AP/Hybrid thing? Any kind of advice as to play him to the max level possible would be nice Infinity Edge + Last Whisper is great on him. It's a lot stronger than bloodrazor imo. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 01 2010 02:54 Kaniol wrote: Reading comprehension. You need less skill != don't need skill at all. If you need less skill then if you have skill you are "higher ranked" than you would be in DotA w/ same amount of skill How much skill you need to be higher ranked has a lot to do with the player quality, not how difficult the game is. The difficulty of the game factors into how well those skill levels are differentiated--a game that is more difficult is more likely to differentiate skill levels, whereas an easy game is less likely to have skill-dependent outcomes, and more likely to have results based on other factors (e.g. luck). Incidentally, both are relevant to this discussion, as you might say LoL is less skill-dependent than DotA, but there are less good LoL players as well. AFAIK, "rewarding skill" as a property of the game generally refers to the fact that a difficult game rewards skill by reducing the likelihood that a less-skilled player can beat a more-skilled player. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:24 HazMat wrote: Infinity Edge + Last Whisper is great on him. It's a lot stronger than bloodrazor imo. Compare it to BR + Malady or something like that, please. It's not like LW comes for free with IE. On November 01 2010 03:29 TheYango wrote: How much skill you need to be higher ranked has to do with the player quality, not how difficult the game is. The difficulty of the game factors into how well those skill levels are differentiated--a game that is more difficult is more likely to differentiate skill levels, whereas an easy game is less likely to have skill-dependent outcomes, and more likely to have results based on other factors (e.g. luck). Incidentally, both are relevant to this discussion, as you might say LoL is less skill-dependent than DotA, but there are less good LoL players as well. AFAIK, "rewarding skill" as a property of the game generally refers to the fact that a difficult game rewards skill by reducing the likelihood that a less-skilled player can beat a more-skilled player. Actually, if a game is "easy", it is HARDER to get to the top and stay there as it is harder to translate whatever advantage you might have over someone into a victory. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:32 spinesheath wrote: Compare it to BR + Malady or something like that, please. It's not like LW comes for free with IE. Actually, if a game is "easy", it is HARDER to get to the top and stay there as it is harder to translate whatever advantage you might have over someone into a victory. And IE is more expensive than BR to start with, yes? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:32 spinesheath wrote: Actually, if a game is "easy", it is HARDER to get to the top and stay there as it is harder to translate whatever advantage you might have over someone into a victory. Thats sort of what I was trying to say, but it doesn't come out very clearly, reading over my post again. >.> | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:36 Haemonculus wrote: And IE is more expensive than BR to start with, yes? I would think so. Though the 280 difference is not all that much. On November 01 2010 03:38 TheYango wrote: Thats sort of what I was trying to say, but it doesn't come out very clearly, reading over my post again. >.> Yeah it's in there, guess I didn't read it that properly  | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Thx for all the advice Nony/STS, what skill order do you do in lane? I've been going EQQEQRQ then R>Q>E>W but should I be taking W over E? Also in related news, #1 first day Udyr. I think I'm the sickest jungler on TL. Yes take W over E. My skilling order is EQWQQR R>Q>W>E the reason is extra levels in W gives you more movespeed which helps you get to your target asap whereas extra levels in E only gives you some damage, but the skill scales better off AP then levels so it's not too huge. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Think it has some merit vs rushing rageblade? Does the extra magic damage get at all turned into splash from her E? How about the debuff from malady? o.O | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On November 01 2010 03:38 APurpleCow wrote: I thought I saw something about Kog's attacks being nerfed to not apply on-hit effects, like Frozen Mallet and BR? I think that was a proposed nerf that never actually went through. Regardless the IE + LW build is "superior" because it diversifies your damage over different types, making you harder to gear against while the BR + Malady is almost exclusively magic damage. IMO BR + BC is "better" as far as damage output goes but it's expensive and lacks attack speed so I generally avoid it unless I get fed early or my opponents are bad. | ||
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