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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 11 2010 17:20 GMT
#23601
The new hero coming out will meet my homosexual needs. I'm quite excited.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 11 2010 17:20 GMT
#23602
Did I mention we did double jungle with yi and karthus lolol
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 11 2010 17:21 GMT
#23603
Does it take you 5 hits to kill someone with Trist?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 11 2010 17:22 GMT
#23604
dat pantheon so gud.

however, pvp.net chat owns all
cool beans
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 11 2010 17:28 GMT
#23605
oh god, nyx is here. lolz
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 11 2010 17:30 GMT
#23606
I don't understand the hate on zilean. He's great in lane and he becomes stronger as the game goes on since his ult will only become more useful the more farmed your carries are getting. If he gets a solo he can hold his own against just about everyone.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 11 2010 17:33 GMT
#23607
On October 12 2010 02:30 mrgerry wrote:
I don't understand the hate on zilean. He's great in lane and he becomes stronger as the game goes on since his ult will only become more useful the more farmed your carries are getting. If he gets a solo he can hold his own against just about everyone.


I've seen plenty of good Zileans that can turn the late game on their own. Chronoshift is that game changing. However, with every good Zilean, there's bound to be nine bad ones.

If Zilean doesn't zone/deny or play well to get some sort of advantage over his lane early game, he starts to dwindle pretty hard come mid/late. At that point, he's just an R-bot like someone said and his bombs can be shrugged off.

Compare this to Taric, Janna, or even Sona, they have much more staying power as a support through out the game.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 11 2010 17:36 GMT
#23608
Oh, and one more thing. "Good" Zileans are a dime a dozen. Congrats, you know how to bomb/rewind/bomb.

What pisses me off is when a Zilean uses QWQ so much that they end up not having enough fucking mana to ulti when the time comes. Facepalm support.

Also, learn to speed up your allies, it's a nice buff, ya know.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 11 2010 17:38 GMT
#23609
Late game he becomes a guardian angel without giving armor or MR which is pretty useless, also his nukes aren't instantaneous and after blowing 2 "nukes" he just kinda throws watches at you which is annoying just like in real life but you're not going to kill anyone throwing watches at them.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 11 2010 17:40 GMT
#23610
I thought he throws gears
it's my first day
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 11 2010 17:41 GMT
#23611
"cogs"

I see you young'uns obv don't own clocks or watches.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 11 2010 17:44 GMT
#23612
On October 12 2010 02:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Oh, and one more thing. "Good" Zileans are a dime a dozen. Congrats, you know how to bomb/rewind/bomb.

What pisses me off is when a Zilean uses QWQ so much that they end up not having enough fucking mana to ulti when the time comes. Facepalm support.

Also, learn to speed up your allies, it's a nice buff, ya know.


I don't even think it is that.

Personally I don't have a lot of experience playing with Zileans but when I do it seems they always push lanes instead of pull. Zilean's early game is awesome though, and I don't understand the hate on his role early/mid-game at all. He seems to me to be one of the best champions to zone, has great potential in early/mid skirmishes, and can push a lane when it is actually needed. Janna pretty much outdoes him in every aspect though.

I'd rather Janna shield me and whirlwind chasers if I'm low then a Zilean ulting me in the exact same situation. I think that is mainly where the problem lies... not that Zilean is totally useless, he just serves as a support late game that doesn't have the same capabilities as Taric/Janna/Sona. If you're in a situation where you're pretty much fucked, his ult or speed isn't going to save you. Janna and Taric at the very least have a way to get you out of a seemingly shitty situation.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 11 2010 17:49 GMT
#23613
I have the good fortune of playing with Blmz and Asier, both of whom are pretty damn good Zileans. Asier in particular makes use of bomb's high damage+Zilean's long range to be super aggressive right from Level 1. I'm pretty sure he bombs EVERY time it's on cooldown, without running out of mana. Probably utility masteries+mana/manaregen runes.
cool beans
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 11 2010 17:57 GMT
#23614
In general I look at it like this:
Ranged carry best friend: Janna
Melee carry best friend: Zilean

I don't really like comparing Zilean to Sona/Taric since they fill different roles. Every team will always want heals so they will be picked regardless and most teams that run janna will also want to run some heals as well. Zilean is probably easier to compare to other casters since he has a strong nuke and cc with a support ult.

Zilean just takes some getting used too since he has to multi-task between so many things. Gotta worry about putting down bombs, looking for opportunities to slow speed up, while determining where your ult would be best used.

And you should all pick Zilean since he will make people who dont buy merc treads rage with his 5.5 second long slow GG.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 11 2010 17:58 GMT
#23615
On October 12 2010 02:49 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
I have the good fortune of playing with Blmz and Asier, both of whom are pretty damn good Zileans. Asier in particular makes use of bomb's high damage+Zilean's long range to be super aggressive right from Level 1. I'm pretty sure he bombs EVERY time it's on cooldown, without running out of mana. Probably utility masteries+mana/manaregen runes.


The pro managed to push the lane with using bombs on every cooldown, harassing like a pro!
Katarina and Gangplank had to go back to replenish their insanely low health. Zilean was a level ahead, and was dominating the lane thanks to his partner Sona. Unfortunately she was low too and had to back.

The creep wave was coming, and Zilean knew that after clearing it he could buy his catalyst! A level 5 catalyst... not bad. BUT WAIT. THE OTHER TEAM HAD A FUCKING JUNGLER. AND SINCE THE ZILEAN WAS INCAPABLE OF PULLING THE LANE AND ONLY KNEW HOW TO SPAM Q...

[image loading]

I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 17:59:34
October 11 2010 17:59 GMT
#23616
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Poppy pawnaage :D Malady for fun as last item, lols.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 11 2010 17:59 GMT
#23617
On October 12 2010 02:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
However, with every good Zilean, there's bound to be nine bad ones.


On October 12 2010 02:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Oh, and one more thing. "Good" Zileans are a dime a dozen



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User was warned for this post
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 18:05:58
October 11 2010 18:02 GMT
#23618
On October 12 2010 02:59 Crucifix wrote:
[image loading]

Poppy pawnaage :D Malady for fun as last item, lols.

you suck for a fed poppy

please tell me you asked him if he was mad

My results playing tankplank; 3-2-17
most aggressive xin lane ever we get like 6 kills before 10 mins and make shaco rage quit
end game with
ghostblade warmogs banshees dorans and merc treads

it was quite awesome
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
October 11 2010 18:07 GMT
#23619
Prolly I suck, because it was my first game with her :D
Sure I've asked him, I love trashtalking after raping the other team, ahh... so fun
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 11 2010 18:11 GMT
#23620
Poppy is hard to get a poppin'. AHAHHAHA.

No seriously I can go like 10-2 with her and still be a useless pile of garbage.
I'll take down their carry then disappear like Carl Winslow with a bike because I have no health.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
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