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SCC-Faust
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nyxnyxnyx
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however, pvp.net chat owns all | ||
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mrgerry
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NeoIllusions
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On October 12 2010 02:30 mrgerry wrote: I don't understand the hate on zilean. He's great in lane and he becomes stronger as the game goes on since his ult will only become more useful the more farmed your carries are getting. If he gets a solo he can hold his own against just about everyone. I've seen plenty of good Zileans that can turn the late game on their own. Chronoshift is that game changing. However, with every good Zilean, there's bound to be nine bad ones. If Zilean doesn't zone/deny or play well to get some sort of advantage over his lane early game, he starts to dwindle pretty hard come mid/late. At that point, he's just an R-bot like someone said and his bombs can be shrugged off. Compare this to Taric, Janna, or even Sona, they have much more staying power as a support through out the game. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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What pisses me off is when a Zilean uses QWQ so much that they end up not having enough fucking mana to ulti when the time comes. Facepalm support. Also, learn to speed up your allies, it's a nice buff, ya know. | ||
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myopia
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NeoIllusions
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I see you young'uns obv don't own clocks or watches. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On October 12 2010 02:36 NeoIllusions wrote: Oh, and one more thing. "Good" Zileans are a dime a dozen. Congrats, you know how to bomb/rewind/bomb. What pisses me off is when a Zilean uses QWQ so much that they end up not having enough fucking mana to ulti when the time comes. Facepalm support. Also, learn to speed up your allies, it's a nice buff, ya know. I don't even think it is that. Personally I don't have a lot of experience playing with Zileans but when I do it seems they always push lanes instead of pull. Zilean's early game is awesome though, and I don't understand the hate on his role early/mid-game at all. He seems to me to be one of the best champions to zone, has great potential in early/mid skirmishes, and can push a lane when it is actually needed. Janna pretty much outdoes him in every aspect though. I'd rather Janna shield me and whirlwind chasers if I'm low then a Zilean ulting me in the exact same situation. I think that is mainly where the problem lies... not that Zilean is totally useless, he just serves as a support late game that doesn't have the same capabilities as Taric/Janna/Sona. If you're in a situation where you're pretty much fucked, his ult or speed isn't going to save you. Janna and Taric at the very least have a way to get you out of a seemingly shitty situation. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
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mrgerry
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Ranged carry best friend: Janna Melee carry best friend: Zilean I don't really like comparing Zilean to Sona/Taric since they fill different roles. Every team will always want heals so they will be picked regardless and most teams that run janna will also want to run some heals as well. Zilean is probably easier to compare to other casters since he has a strong nuke and cc with a support ult. Zilean just takes some getting used too since he has to multi-task between so many things. Gotta worry about putting down bombs, looking for opportunities to slow speed up, while determining where your ult would be best used. And you should all pick Zilean since he will make people who dont buy merc treads rage with his 5.5 second long slow GG. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On October 12 2010 02:49 nyxnyxnyx wrote: I have the good fortune of playing with Blmz and Asier, both of whom are pretty damn good Zileans. Asier in particular makes use of bomb's high damage+Zilean's long range to be super aggressive right from Level 1. I'm pretty sure he bombs EVERY time it's on cooldown, without running out of mana. Probably utility masteries+mana/manaregen runes. The pro managed to push the lane with using bombs on every cooldown, harassing like a pro! Katarina and Gangplank had to go back to replenish their insanely low health. Zilean was a level ahead, and was dominating the lane thanks to his partner Sona. Unfortunately she was low too and had to back. The creep wave was coming, and Zilean knew that after clearing it he could buy his catalyst! A level 5 catalyst... not bad. BUT WAIT. THE OTHER TEAM HAD A FUCKING JUNGLER. AND SINCE THE ZILEAN WAS INCAPABLE OF PULLING THE LANE AND ONLY KNEW HOW TO SPAM Q... ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/hJid8.png) | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i55.tinypic.com/es6ee9.jpg) Poppy pawnaage :D Malady for fun as last item, lols. | ||
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gtrsrs
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On October 12 2010 02:33 NeoIllusions wrote: However, with every good Zilean, there's bound to be nine bad ones. On October 12 2010 02:36 NeoIllusions wrote: Oh, and one more thing. "Good" Zileans are a dime a dozen ![[image loading]](http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/champchris/Misc/not_sure_if_srs.jpg) User was warned for this post | ||
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arb
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On October 12 2010 02:59 Crucifix wrote: Poppy pawnaage :D Malady for fun as last item, lols. you suck for a fed poppy please tell me you asked him if he was mad My results playing tankplank; 3-2-17 most aggressive xin lane ever we get like 6 kills before 10 mins and make shaco rage quit end game with ghostblade warmogs banshees dorans and merc treads it was quite awesome | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Sure I've asked him, I love trashtalking after raping the other team, ahh... so fun | ||
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SCC-Faust
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No seriously I can go like 10-2 with her and still be a useless pile of garbage. I'll take down their carry then disappear like Carl Winslow with a bike because I have no health. | ||
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