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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 27 2010 08:07 GMT
#2341
Starks is just a redonkulously good item on shaco because the clone lifesteals for the REAL one.

ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 27 2010 08:09 GMT
#2342
Also I just heard this from a guy I premade with, apparently Riot's removing the ability to cleanse out of ultimates. (!)
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 27 2010 08:11 GMT
#2343
On June 27 2010 17:07 Juicyfruit wrote:
Starks is just a redonkulously good item on shaco because the clone lifesteals for the REAL one.


Do you mean it gets the buff or that the attacks actually steal?

If it actually steals does it work like that on everything or just Starks?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 08:15:29
June 27 2010 08:14 GMT
#2344
On June 27 2010 17:11 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 17:07 Juicyfruit wrote:
Starks is just a redonkulously good item on shaco because the clone lifesteals for the REAL one.


Do you mean it gets the buff or that the attacks actually steal?

If it actually steals does it work like that on everything or just Starks?


When the clone attacks, the real one gets healed.

Plus they both get double the aura.

I think it works on all lifesteal items.
sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
June 27 2010 08:30 GMT
#2345
Sunfire Eve, Tank Nunu, dagger-first Ashe, Garen and Anivia just beat Shaco/Panth/Taric/Shen/Heimer

I'm speachless.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 27 2010 08:34 GMT
#2346
On June 27 2010 17:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I've been talking about this with people in chat, do you think Malady is an acceptable choice on Shaco? Obviously the Stark's buff stacks but I think Malady helps you solo baron faster and gank better in general. You're not really going for the "stand there and whack people I'm Master Yi" strategy, you're focused on the "kill super fast and gtfo to solo baron" strategy

Baron is immune to debuffs, so malady doesn't do anything.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 27 2010 08:37 GMT
#2347
On June 27 2010 17:30 sleeepy wrote:
Sunfire Eve, Tank Nunu, dagger-first Ashe, Garen and Anivia just beat Shaco/Panth/Taric/Shen/Heimer

I'm speachless.


The second team has no ranged heroes, what do you really expect?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 27 2010 08:45 GMT
#2348
On June 27 2010 17:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 17:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I've been talking about this with people in chat, do you think Malady is an acceptable choice on Shaco? Obviously the Stark's buff stacks but I think Malady helps you solo baron faster and gank better in general. You're not really going for the "stand there and whack people I'm Master Yi" strategy, you're focused on the "kill super fast and gtfo to solo baron" strategy

Baron is immune to debuffs, so malady doesn't do anything.

Good point, -1 to Malady haha.

So even things like explosive shot from tristana won't do anything? DoT kind of debuffs don't hit huh.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
June 27 2010 08:53 GMT
#2349
On June 27 2010 17:37 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 17:30 sleeepy wrote:
Sunfire Eve, Tank Nunu, dagger-first Ashe, Garen and Anivia just beat Shaco/Panth/Taric/Shen/Heimer

I'm speachless.


The second team has no ranged heroes, what do you really expect?


Meh, I guess now that I think about it, nothing really amazing happened. I wanted to slap myself for not dodging after Ashe and Anivia went 0/2 less than 5 minutes in and I say Eve start making a sunfire.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 10:10:18
June 27 2010 10:09 GMT
#2350
If anyone's interested, by the way, Dan Dinh pulled off Eve in a decent match running Ignite Flash and building two HoGs into Lichbane. Said tanky Eve is nice because you start healing for huge amounts as people die.

Edit:
This may be of particular interest to the people QQing about buying Eve and finding her becoming useless.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
June 27 2010 10:27 GMT
#2351
Hello there. I'm new to this game, I've played HoN/DotA before a lot and now I'm starting up to see what LoL can offer me :D Any tips for beginners? Which hero to start with (i prefer mage/support), how does it exactly work, what are the runes and stuff?

Any advices are highly appreciated
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
June 27 2010 10:27 GMT
#2352
Lz has been using Tank Eve for ages. She's good.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 10:40:37
June 27 2010 10:33 GMT
#2353
On June 27 2010 19:27 Crucifix wrote:
Hello there. I'm new to this game, I've played HoN/DotA before a lot and now I'm starting up to see what LoL can offer me :D Any tips for beginners? Which hero to start with (i prefer mage/support), how does it exactly work, what are the runes and stuff?

Any advices are highly appreciated


The game is drastically different from low-level play (not summoner level, I mean like actual player skill level) to high-level play, so at the start (usually ~200-300 wins, unless you're really good in which case it'll take like 100) feel free to get your feet wet playing any hero. If you're at all competent you can carry with any hero in this game. Most of the other stuff is in the new player FAQ in the first post.

By the way you'll find a lot of stuff you were used to in DotA/HoN won't carry over. For instance, in DotA I was a Crystal Maiden/Vengeful Spirit/Tinker whore on Garena, but now I'm finding myself a dedicated tank player. So keep an open mind and don't try to limit yourself to heroes that you feel you should be comfortable with.

On June 27 2010 19:27 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Lz has been using Tank Eve for ages. She's good.


I wouldn't say she's "good." She's still insta-q-dodge for me, and only named players cause me to give her the benefit of the doubt. Even then it's not a guarantee they won't suck, as I vividly remember the first time I played against HotshotGG he was playing Eve and singlehandedly lost his team the game. But a tanky Eve (esp. rushing HoGs, as they'll make up for the gold lost while roaming) may be the solution for some of the low-mid elo players who were bemoaning how "useless" she is. I vaguely recall seeing at least one post like that in the past few pages.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
June 27 2010 10:38 GMT
#2354
) Thanks for the post Southlight. I still don't get few things, I guess I'll need to do the tuturial and read the FAQ before the first game. The only thing I was worried about is the graphics and the animation of certain skills, we will see, soon, how it works :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 27 2010 10:43 GMT
#2355
Beating a dead horse, but probably the biggest adjustment to LoL for DotA/HoN players is the game speed. If one team knows what they're doing and the other does not, a game can easily be "screwed up" in 10-15 minutes, and I'm not even talking about hardcore brainless feeding.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 11:49:07
June 27 2010 11:47 GMT
#2356
What do you people think of Lichbane on Kassadin? In theory should work well because you riftwalk often and it's natural to land an autoattack or two between those, but so far I've been playing with Tear->Boots->Soulstealer->Haunting Guise and have no idea how this will fare in a real competetive environment.

What I was thinking is that Lichbane makes it 10x easier to farm golems for the buff and you can even maybe skip Tear if you have Clarity to satiate your mana needs in the midgame. Besides, it suddenly makes you viable vs turrets and stuff.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 27 2010 11:54 GMT
#2357
On June 27 2010 19:38 Crucifix wrote:
) Thanks for the post Southlight. I still don't get few things, I guess I'll need to do the tuturial and read the FAQ before the first game. The only thing I was worried about is the graphics and the animation of certain skills, we will see, soon, how it works :D


The most drastic difference for me was the completely different role of solo mid (there are no runes thus your every miss is guaranteed to be a gank and in general it's much more boring) and how much backdooring screws late game just because Teleport is a summoner spell with a 4 minute cooldown. If the enemy team has some fast autoattacker like Yi or Kat and you can't reliably ace them to make that final push, you're almost guaranteed to lose because you will be backdoored and there won't be anything you will be able to do about it.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 27 2010 12:28 GMT
#2358
On June 27 2010 17:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 17:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On June 27 2010 17:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I've been talking about this with people in chat, do you think Malady is an acceptable choice on Shaco? Obviously the Stark's buff stacks but I think Malady helps you solo baron faster and gank better in general. You're not really going for the "stand there and whack people I'm Master Yi" strategy, you're focused on the "kill super fast and gtfo to solo baron" strategy

Baron is immune to debuffs, so malady doesn't do anything.

Good point, -1 to Malady haha.

So even things like explosive shot from tristana won't do anything? DoT kind of debuffs don't hit huh.


No debuffs work at all (including dots), so basically malzahar can't do anything except auto attack and use his Q to damage baron =/
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 12:33:46
June 27 2010 12:32 GMT
#2359
Kennens need to learn that once they finish blowing their load in teamfights, they need to back out and wait until their energy comes back up. Don't be a hero and chase people with no energy! Wait a bit until you can combo again instead of just spamming shurikens and thus keeping your energy at 0. You're no good if you can't stun (until you get rylais, then just spam shuriken for the slow :D)
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 13:48:56
June 27 2010 13:47 GMT
#2360
Urgh, I've just had the worst two days ever... I just keep losing and I don't know why.

I usually play with a 3-4 man premade (my housemates) and we're all pretty decent at the game (We have this amazing amumu, he's fucking insane). So, most of the time if you premade like this you get really bad teammates, dunno why but matchmaker likes to buttfuck people for not having a full 5... Anyway, most of the times we lose it's because we have feeder teammates or w/e, but recently we've just been losing and we don't even know why. Our teammates are decent, not feeding, no one on our team is beasting but neither is anyone on their team. We seem to be on equal footing then all of a sudden they're everywhere and we can't push towers or defend cos we somehow lost map control. I really wish we had replays so we could analyse what went wrong...

Also, if anyone can give me a good ezreal build that'd be awesome. I used to do really well with him as AP (mostly because he was broken as fuck) but I really suck with AD builds. I find my Q doesn't do enough damaged, like sure I can chip away at people but I'm not really putting out enough damage to be useful in a team fight. Usually I go:

sheen
boots1
then either brutalizer or madreds
then whatever I didn't get before
then generic survivability

is this good? I don't really seem to be putting out enough damage at all, and if I come in and try to autoattack I get raped cos my arse is so squishy

edit: is AP ez still good? It's so much more fun to play since you actually have three abilities that do decent damage
u gotta sk8
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